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I guess it doesnt matter which side of the country you are on cause these dealers seem to all play the same gamee!! Ive been going through the very same thing here on the west coast.
Lets see I have a growing list of 6 now that have done the exact same thing to me too!!
The latest was San Francisco Toyota who agreed upon a price and with in 3 minutes the car was maracleculously gone!!
Im so sick of jumping in the car and going on wild goose chases with my checkbook burning a hole in my pocket.
I wish you LOTS OF LUCK in getting what you want.
Thanks
I just have a few little things I would like to work on.
1) I would really like to add a after market seat memory if possible. It's a pain to make the changes after my wife drives it.
2) It would be nice to add some nice Running Board Lights to each end of them front and back part of the running boards.
3) The doors locking when the Vehicle is started and starts rolling is a great safety feature. How do I get the dealer to enable this?
4) A way to turn on all of the interior lights from the drivers seat. Not reaching over and switching each of them on.
5) Lastly I have been feeling a slight vibration tapping feeling under the drivers footing area. Does anyone know how I can get the dealer to believe me? They say they do not feel anything. It is mostly felt on the Freeway when driving at a consistent speed.
If I could get the above things sorted out I would be Ecstatic about my new SUV.
Can anyone help me with Any of the Above Issues?
I would get rid of that Previa NOW.....if possible. I think you will be please with the Toy Sequ. Yeah, you have to give up some room. But is it worth it. Personally I have a new LX470 which is smaller than the Toy Sequ. but I just love the LX and nothing less will do for me.
-Dianne
I guess we just have to wait.
Toyota rebid the Previa due to the fact they could not fit a 6 cyl in a Previa. They tried the supercharger 4 cyl , but the price of the van was too expensive and they lost market share. The Senna was the collaboration of GM and Toyota. GM provided the insite on what US customers wanted from a Van, and Toyota took the easy way by building it on the Camry platform.
Thanks for the advice anyway. Still waiting to here from those in Town Hall who made the jump from a Van to a Sequoia.
I just have a few little things I would like to work on.
1) I would really like to add a after market seat memory if possible. It's a pain to make the changes after my wife drives it.
2) It would be nice to add some nice Running Board Lights to each end of them front and back part of the running boards.
3) The doors locking when the Vehicle is started and starts rolling is a great safety feature. How do I get the dealer to enable this?
4) A way to turn on all of the interior lights from the drivers seat. Not reaching over and switching each of them on.
5) Lastly I have been feeling a light tapping feeling under the drivers footing area not a vibration like some have felt but a light tapping ( feel no vibration steering if perfect ). Does anyone one else feel this? It is mostly felt driving on the freeway with a smooth ride. Just a bit annoying.
If I could get the above things sorted out I would be Ecstatic about my new SUV.
Can anyone help me with Any of the Above Issues? Thank you in advance.
P.S. I am the proud owner of a 4WD SR5 in Silver Sky.
Traveling101 - In terms of safety, you are probably better off with the Sequoia if you will be doing any amount of traveling in snow and ice. Of course this is only true if you know the limitations of the vehicle and what benefits you really get from 4WD. You do need to drive this differently than a car as stopping distances are usually more in a truck this size.
For us there was no comparison between our minivan and the Sequoia in terms of space. More room for everyone and more room for all our stuff. The Quest is much smaller than the Previa I guess. The ride in the Sequoia is great! Initially it felt 'big' to drive, but that passed quickly. You will lose a few MPGs, but it's worth it.
I posted about a month ago that the handle used to tumble the middle passenger side seat forward broke off in my hand under moderate pressure. It was bitterly cold out at the time, but I was still amazed that this happened. I contacted my local Toyota dealer, who got the part in 2 days (very good news for anyone concerned about parts availability). I also called my sales person - different dealership- who had not heard of this before. Well, I just got an email from him saying that another owner had he same thing happen 2 hours after they picked up their Sequoia!
This was a minor annoyance at most and would not have changed my mind about purchasing the Sequoia, but I figured if enough people had the problem Toyota might come up with a better/stronger design for the handle.
Has anyone else had this happen?
The Sequoia is fundamentally a rugged, truck with a station wagon body. It has a frame with metal skid plates. The Previa is a fundamentally a car with a rather unique van body. It has a unibody with a plastic transaxle cover. The Previa drives more like a boat - kind of sluggish and vague. The Sequoia drives solid as a rock (notice I didn't say "like a rock"). The Previa scrapes it's tires on the wheel wells with a full load and a boat trailer. The towing capacity is very limited. The Sequia doesn't notice the load is there and could tow another Sequoia.
The Previa is longer inside (over 12' gas pedal to inside tailgate), and higher (the floor is much closer to the pavement), so it has more room. It isn't a big step up to get into, and you can walk in it. It has second row captain's chairs, with a walk space between. It holds 7 plus some cargo, as long as they don't weigh too much. The Sequoia is much higher from the driver's position, but does not feel that big once you get in the vehicle (you must be willing to climb). It seats eight (full size) people plus some cargo, but you have to tumble the decond seat to get into the third seat.
You can fold up the third seat in the Previa (or remove it with a wrench), but not the second seat. In the Sequoia, you can tumble all but the front seats (the rear's remove with a lever), and you can put 4x8 plywood inside.
The safety of the '91 Previa speaks for itself. The Sequoia is has virtually every safety feature known to man, including side curtain airbags. It has a higher center of gravity, but also has VSC.
The Previa gets between 20 and 25 mpg. The Sequoia gets between 14 and 17 so far. The passing acceleration in the Previa is really marginal (especially when loaded or towing a boat). The Sequoia is pretty quick for a big vehicle.
That's probably enough for now. If there are specific questions, please ask. By the way, if I had a choice between a 2001 Sequoia and a 2001 Sienna (or MDX or highlander), which would I pick? The Sequoia 10 times out of 10. It's a great vehicle if you need a large, rugged, capable vehicle that has all the niceties and is safe.
However, I do think the braking, VSC, curtain airbags and weight of the Sequoia are safety advantages over the minivans. Also, I like the fact that riding higher raises the crash zone above the fenders of most other vehicles and that the structure itself seems to be sturdier in a crash than a minivan would be.
The disadvantages are poorer visibility (I think there are bigger "blind spots" in the sequoia) and the 10 inch ground clearance (roll-ability?)The minivans have much less ground clearance and I feel like they would be less likely to roll. I realize the Sequoia has superb stabalization mechanics, but does that make up for, or surpass the design of the lower-riding vehicles?
I realize that I will have to learn how to handle the driving difference, going to a truck and to 4WD, but I can't anticipate how difficult that may or may not be for me.
Overall, I just would like to know which vehicle type is safer for me. Family of 4, mostly suburban living, with frequent road trips 1 - 3 day's driving distances. But no off-road or towing in our future.
Sorry, Lot of questions?
Proud owner of a Jade 4WD Limited. Love it.
They look to be the cheapest, but I did not call them. I ended up with a deal from Conyer's Toyota. Ask for Anthony White, internet sales manager. He beat the best price on a SR5 by $1000. He says he is $1500 over invoice. I paid $33944 walk out with the following:
2WD, SR5, Cloth, Power Cap Chairs, Mats, Dual AC, Roof Rack, Conv. Package, Alloy Wheel Package, Hood protector.
Nik
dad4kidz
It continues to astound me that there are folks still hearing MSRP for Limiteds but if that's due to dealer conditions, ie. a lack of them like I lack enough SR5 2wd, then it makes sense.
-Di
Last month, we had a better selection and were discounting up to $2000 off MSRP. This month, we are between sticker and $1000 off MSRP. Next month, we may be $2500 off if we get a lot of units on the way. This is a pure supply/demand equation.
Here's the rub -- Saturday the dealer e-mails me to confirm that I can not get heated seats with the SR5. However he suggests that they can have them installed under the factory leather after it is delivered. The lack of heated seats is consistent with the info posted here over the last few weeks.
Today I called Toyota customer service and asked if heated seats were standard in the limited? "Yes sir, they are installed at the factory." So, I ask "if you have the seats there at the factory and you publish a brochure stating that they are included in the preferred package why can't you put them in the SR5?" "I understand that Toyota can change its mind/options after the brochure is printed (and not reduce the option price mind you) but I am even willing to pay an extra fee for the heated seats."
Now before anyone in a warmer climate jumps to any conclusions or questions my sincerity, let me state that this would be my wife's primary transportation and contrary to anyone else's view on this -- heated seats in the upper mid-west are not an option to my wife they are a neccessity.
When I asked whether my dealer's suggestion to add them after the vehicle comes in would void my warranty, she says "well the warranty only covers items installed at the factory, so if for example the heater malfunctioned and your seat caught on fire, it would not be covered." How comforting!!
However, given my wife's "need" for heated seats and trying to remove the image of her and my four children being burned alive, I forged ahead with this customer dis-service representative. I wondered -- "given my willingness to pay a little extra (not the thousands required to buy a limited) why won't they put the heated seats in to satisfy a customer?" She says "marketing and other higher ups make these decisions sir." Losing a customer on a vehicle that would cost over $40,000 just because you won't put seats in that are readily available at the factory is poor marketing if you ask me.
When I asked if I could talk to anyone else about accomodating my request I was told that I could check back for changes in next year's marketing program. Which left me questioning -- "where did I call? Customer service?"
Dianne, Cliffy, anyone? Isn't there any way to order a vehicle with what I want? Given that the seats are at the factory this request does not seem unreasonable -- does it? In this area Lexus does not even offer vehicles without heated seats. Every vehicle comes with them whether it is listed as an option or not. Please help before I give up on the Sequoia and go with a used TLC. The seats are a deal breaker for my wife. Thanks.
Good luck!
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Now, one other thing to consider is the "deal." While it is true that the Limited lists for more than a factory ordered SR5 with side bags and PM, the dealer may not be as willing to deal on the ordered unit. Ordering ties up an allocated unit and most dealerships have an aversion to the delayed gratification of an order. They are usually much more willing to deal on something they will be able to deliver now or within a couple of weeks. You may be able to get the actual sale price of a Limited within spittin' distance (another Southern thing, sorry) of an SR5. Something to consider anyway. You'd have much better resale anyway.
Best regards!
I ordered the SR5 and as far as I can figure saved about $3000 off the Ltd. Hope I didn't miss something. By the way, I went with Thunder gray after seeing a LTD but wonder now if the warm silver trim will look nice with it. Anyone seen one in person?? Could have had a silver sky (matching trim). Have to admit I was tempted by the LTD status, but thought $3000 was worth more.
Thanks!
Your are lucky in U.S.-you have much more flexibility. We are also limited in colors too-for example thunder grey not available.
The one area where the Sienna clearly wins is that it is less susceptible to a rollover. There is no doubt that the triangle formed by the CG and the wheel tracks has a base that is wider relative to the apex on the Sienna, making it less prone to tipping. VSC helps to some degree by reducing the chance of a snap back after a skid (the largest cause of rollovers), but as rruck1 said in #830, you can avoid a lot of rollovers situations by driving more conservatively (which only makes sense for a family of four). The one case where you might encounter it is in a snap turn maneuver to avoid an obstacle (or another car) in the road. Maneuvers like that are more risky in a high CG vehicle than a low CG vehicle. But hitting another vehicle is more risky, so you make your choices and take your chances.
As for blind spots, they are there. But they are not that different than those in my Previa of my friend's Sienna (all modern vehicles have door pillars and headrests). You just have to be careful about switching lanes (good advice in any vehicle). Another factor to consider is that you are up so high in the Sequoia that your overall visibility is actually better, IMHO.
The Sequoia ride is very civilized for a truck-based vehicle, and it took me about 1/2 an hour to feel comfortable driving it (that's moving up from my Acura). My wife took a lot less time to adapt, coming from the Previa. The feeling is very similar to the Previa, only a lot less mushy and boat-like (i.e., more precise). Adapting to 4WD is nothing. It's just there -- instead of slipping and sliding, the vehicle just goes (and goes straight) in snow. The only risk is becoming overconfident, because others on the road are still slipping and sliding around.
You said no off-road or towing, but didn't whether snow was an issue. Last night we had a bad ice storm, followed by mushy snow this morning. The general commute was a disaster, but the Sequoia performed with flawless competency, and I felt really secure driving to work.
I have not yet been able to get the Glass Breakage Sensor to set off the alarm on my Sequoia. Following the instructions (set vehicle alarm and tap with a key on the driver's side window)I cannot get the thing to set off the alarm. Anybody else have a problem with this working? Anybody know how to adjust the sensitivity. I will bring this up with the dealer when I go in for my 2500 mile service, but I was hoping I could get some info sooner.
Actually, stability control prevents the skid from occuring in the first place. Snap oversteer is what you have to worrk about after making a steering correction for oversteer, and overcorrecting. Since the (oversteer) skid is prevented from occuring in the first place, this is not an issue.
Drew
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Drew
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toyoguards protection group,mats,chromicmirror,
wind deflecter. the color is white and I paid
38.4k before taxes. gas milage in town only
15.5.mpg
and yes the wife has it
I changed the oil at 1,000 miles to Moil One San. I think that will keep this SUV running even longer than it would do all on it's own.
By the way how do you like it? We really enjoy ours.
1. Handling.... how is the transition of driving the truck-like Sequoia compared to the car-like manueverablity of minivans? (I am considering the Sequoia Limited with 4WD)
2. Parking....Picking up kids from schools, fitting into spaces in parking garages and parking lots, and parallel parking on streets?