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- Power from the V6, excellent, but somewhat noisy under hard acceleration. Not as nice as a V8.
- Build quality: OK, but had 1 rattle and the backing on the second row seat was installed very sloppy. The cloth seats are very bland-looking.
- Handling: very good & tight, nice on the highway. Ride: OK but gets very unsettled over rough pavement.
- Seating: This is what killed this vehicle for me- the drivers seat was only fair in terms of support, shape, and comfort, and the lumbar adjustment was lousy. The second row seat is way too tight for a mid-size SUV, no doubt as a result of trying to squeeze in a third row seat. The third row seat is useless except for small (and I mean small- my 10 year old daughter barely fits back there) children.
Nissan had some great ideas on this new design, but should have stretched it a bit more to make it a "tweener" like the Durango. Yes, you can upgrade to the Armada for another 10K, but thats out of budget for a lot of buyers. We are now resolved to either another Expy or a Durango, both with questionable reliability. (the Explorer/Mountaineer have an absurd fold-down seat system that leaves a huge gap in the middle and does not fold flat). Sorry for the long post but I get passionate when I shop new vehicles and like to share info! :shades:
Have any of you been running regular unleaded gasoline in your VQ35 engines? I have and I do just fine when most of my driving is around town/city. However I can personally feel a difference in performance (accelerating/passing/hills) when I am driving on the open roads and highways. So when I know I am going on a road trip I use only premium unleaded fuel so I can enjoy the full power of the VQ. My mechanic said that running regular unleaded is ok due to the high tech knock sensors the VQ has.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Nissan Implements Product Improvement for 2005 Nissan Pathfinder [June 10, 05]
GARDENA, Calif. (June 10, 2005) – During recent NCAP dynamic maneuvering tests by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the 2005 Nissan Pathfinder experienced a “tip-up” under certain test conditions. As this result was unexpected, Nissan proactively approached NHTSA to better understand the Pathfinder’s performance in this test. Nissan determined the root cause and implemented a product improvement by reprogramming the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) system installed on all Pathfinder models at the factory. Subsequent tests by NHTSA confirmed there was no “tip-up” after the VDC was updated. In addition, to avoid any concerns by current Pathfinder owners and to promote customer satisfaction, Nissan dealers will reprogram the VDC on their vehicle free of charge. Nissan will begin sending letters notifying 2005 Pathfinder owners of this offer at the end of June 2005.
I am pretty new to this forum. I am planning to buy 01 pathfinder, which is having 90K miles on it. Interior looks pretty clean and leather seats. Its an SE model. So my question is, is it a good deal to buy 01 pathfinder with 90K miles on it ? If yes what is the price range I can bargain for. [I checked in Edmunds.com TMV, its about $9K]. Its a private party. what all the problems I may hit down the line ?, I brought a 96 Accord in 2001 with 90K miles on it, it still runs like a champ, I almost put 150K miles on it.
Can I expect the same thing from Nissan pathfinder ?
Thanks in advance
Steve, Host
Nissan does stuff to their VSQ 3.5 engine that is way advanced: coatings, forgings, over-designed strength. I consider their motors to be of BMW quality engineering and I am a motor buff. The gas mileage is less than the best but the vehicle, without reservation, will please. Unbreakable automatic. If the price is decent and the condition good (I'll bet its close to excellent), consider buying.
Oh, one other thing, the "monoframe" is incredibly rigid and strong. They started with that frame in 1996 and there have been no issues whatsoever. Very rigid...makes for a great handling SUV that will surprise you in an accident avoidance manuever. BTW, I am not a "Nissan" freak. I buy what is the best.
Long Haul truckers do not "change" their coolant out. They keep the coolant at 50-67% and add a can of "anti-rust" every other year. I worked for Allied Van Lines and I know that there are trucks on the road for more than a decade still running the original coolant. Once again, once the oxygen has been eliminated, why would you want to restore it with fresh water? Its one of the biggest hoaxes ever put on the motoring public. I bought a 1990 Honda Accord. Topped off with pure antifreeze when needed due to a hose change or clamp leak. It came with 50/50 mix and I never changed it. Added anti-rust every other year (Prestone). Traded car in with 90,000 miles in 2001 for a Nissan Pathfinder. The Pathy, at 5 years and 50K, still has the original coolant and water, but with a can of anti-rust.
Save your money. Buy a can of anti-rust. Don't listen to the idiots at the car parts store...ignore the mechanics who have a vested interest in service and did not have chemistry at trade school. Stay with the factory fill, top off with pure anti-freeze, add a can of anti-rust every other year.
Want proof? Aren't the companies selling 50/50 mix at nearly full price (which is 50% water and 50% antifreeze) as if they are "doing you a favor". You cannot trust what they say, or the government that allows it!
Pathfindermike, lubrication of the water pump is a common misconception. If you look at a waterpump, you will see it uses two -sealed- bearings. If the glycol coolant gets in there (and it eventually does), it destroys the bearings, not lubricates them. They are "permanently" lubricated when they are made, with grease. The coolant -may- be claimed to keep the bearing seals cool, but that's about it.
Antifreeze coolant does two basic things:
1. It stabilizes the coolant at very high and very low temperatures. It raises the boiling point making operation in very high temps. safer. It lowers the freezing point, making operation in very cold climates possible. As a bonus, once you have at least around 40% glycol, even if it freezes it only turns into a gel, which is unlikely to crack the metal housings because it will still "flow" if it expands (the reason "blocks" are cracked is either the entire coolant charge is frozen and expands, or the coolant freezes in a local area, this ice prevents the continuing ice buildup from expanding into the liquid, thereby building up force against the container - the "block").
2. Perhaps the most important thing is corrosion protection, and it's not anywhere near as simple as motorbuff thinks. First, the glycol reduces corrosion (when "fresh"), and there are additives in the glycol that absorb acids that naturally form in a cooling system. These additives are slowly "used up". Once they are gone, even just glycol will not prevent the corrosion - I've seen an aluminum radiator pierced by corrosion in a year due to poor corrosion protection (10% glycol used).
I have a few friends here in Edmonton who are "production engineers" and make glycol. They tell me that ethylene glycol breaks down even in the plastic containers it is shipped in. Buy it fresh, use it immediatly, discard/recycle after two years! These days proper disposal is important, due to the increased number of cars in the environment.
I have a 2005 SE & have had a number of rattles and squeaks to report. The first two were a rattle from the dash (drivers side)...diagnosed as an a/c line in contact with the firewall. This was fixed. The next was a creaking sound coming from the drivers side window...diagnosed as a problem with the window regulator/insulation in contact with window. This was fixed as well. A week after I got it back a new rattle developed in the passenger side and a loud squeaking noise from somewhere in the undercarriage or suspension...happens on any bumps...even louder when the tank is less than 1/2 full. I am wating for my appointment date the have these last two problems fixed. Will report what they find.
The first is "all mode" and only the LE gets this automatic 4WD system - in this system rear wheel drive is used unless slip is detected. Then a multiplate clutch engages the front wheels. This system can be switched to 2WD (only rear wheels engaged), 4WD (locked 4wd - slippery or loose surface only), and 4WD low range. The "all mode" system is built into the automatic transmission, so no manual trans. option with "all mode".
The other system is a standard 4WD system with a two speed transfer case. Recommended use of 4WD is on slippery or loose surface roads only.
I have lived with the second type of system and it works just fine. I used 4WD on pavement often (switching in and out depending on whether it was slippery or not). When you turn sharply you will encounter "binding" unless the wheels can slip. If used on good traction surfaces mechanical wear will increase greatly. Breakage of parts is unlikely except in LO range in extrodinary circumstances (such as jumping the vehicle off the ground).
My current vehicle (2001 LE) has the first type of system (now called "all mode"). It works well also. I do keep it in 2WD unless I'm on slippery surfaces, as it lowers fuel economy when engaged. When I first got my vehicle it was uncanny how I could spin up the rear tires on wet pavement but when set to "auto" mode ("all mode") I couldn't spin them up. That's the best part of this vehicle - the power the engine has!
Neither system has a centre differential. The 4Runner has a torsen centre diff. (this type doesn't clunk when locking or unlocking). My recommendation is if you are primarilly interested in off-road use, get the 4Runner. If most of your use is on the road, the Pathfinder is "nicest".
jerry
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Brian
And then, instead of spending hours haggling with the dealer, you can focus on your out the door price. That way you won't have to worry what the various fees are or what the current MSRP is. If the dealer won't meet your price, leave your contact number and walk out.
Of course, some people enjoy spending hours at the dealer haggling over each line item on the invoice.
Prices can go up mid-year; maybe someone here knows for sure. It doesn't make a lot of sense for a SUV price to go up when oil has almost hit $65 a barrel.
Steve, Host
We just got an '05 Pathfinder SE 4x2. I put 87, my wife puts 91! We should just split the difference and pump mid-grade huh?
Either way it doesn't matter. Nissan puts Knock Sensors in all their engines; retards timing when it detects any knocking, resulting in the Non-optimum performance as the manual describes. In fact some tuners Remove this knock sensor since it may be overly sensitive to I/H/E mods that increase NVH, then they must compensate by running higher octane all the time.
[steve_ HOST]
Prices can go up mid-year; maybe someone here knows for sure. It doesn't make a lot of sense for a SUV price to go up when oil has almost hit $65 a barrel.
Yeah and with all the incentives, rebates, and "employee discounts" offered by just about all dealers these days, it should be a Buyers' market out there.
On our Pathfinder purchase, the dealership's First counter was $100 over Invoice! So we took it!
After tax/license/registration, it came out to about MSRP out-the-door.
also the heated seat buttons dont light up only wen u push them then the orange light will appear saying that its on
the buttons on the door to set the seating settings 1 and 2 also dont light up, im sorry for asking stupid question but to me they all look like they should light up but they dont , so if anyone could respond i would appreciate it , thank you
If you examine the switches closely, you should be able to tell if the diagram on the switch is designed to be lit by checking to see if the diagram is printed on the switch with white paint, or if the switch plastic changes color from black to frosted clear (such as some of the A/C and radio buttons).
If the switch uses white paint, then it's not designed to light up.
The Pathfinder looks better both inside and out. The fit and finish is excellent and the Pathfinder offers more standard features. The steering is tight and has a sporty feel to it. I have the SE premium package which has the dual zone climate control. The Bose stereo with MP3 6-disc CD and XM radio is awesome. The ride is trucky, but comfortable. It's what you'd expect with the off road package. Toyota doesn't offer XM or Sirius radio, nor does it have rear H/AC vents in the roof like the larger SUVs.
Previous vehicle was a 2002 Chevrolet Tahoe Z-71.
To replace my Pathfinder 2003 LE I was torn between the 4Runner and the Pathfinder. The 4Runner might have an edge on the Pathfinder (or so says most reviews) but the Pathfinder represents a terrific value. The price was good and I got a terrific package for the price.
My 2003 Pathy was great, not a problem in almost 3 years! regular maintenance that's it !! The lease was over and the buy-back value was way too high...
I agree that the ride is trucky but it IS a truck !!! I want it beefy, powerful (to tow my 3000lbs boat) so I have no trouble accepting this kind of ride. I am happy that Nissan came back to the frame setup
One question: The navigation system contains many errors (like wrong route number, stupid directions errors). Is there a way that the navigation system be updated by inserting an updated navi data CD in the reader ??
I just purchased the 05 LE 4X4 and yes, the price went up mid-year $250 + the destination charge went up $40. I paid it for a car that was 4 days old. I could have saved money by buying a car sitting on the lot for 60 days, but chose not to for the latter production run vehicle.
Regards,
Jim
It does not sound like a belt screeching more like a saw cutting metal sound but it only happens when the car is shifting at around 45 and I am accelerating. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
i even ask another dealership about this and they told me that they will not be able to fix it until they can duplicate the problem also.
I also have noise(squeaking) from dashboard passenger area which appears intermittently and just on certain road conditions but more on cemented raods than on asphalt roads
has anyone had these problems with there 2005 path.
really need help.
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