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If you have basic hand tools, its an easy job to replace them yourself. You might even want to look into getting some performance poly bushings to firm up the ride a little. But beware, you need to grease them or they will squeak like crazy. I'd be worried the dealership would try to overchare for something like this.
Oh, I see it's a 2001. If they're doing it under warranty, let them go nuts.
Jeep is clean (edmunds rating) 69,000 miles, with very basic extras. The man is asking $8,900, any thoughts?
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I'd add them in a heartbeat, regardless of cost.......(Ever get whiplash) can't put a price on NOT getting it!!
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By the way, does anyone know how many 2001 Cherokee Sport 2-Doors were made in Solar Yellow? The answer is ONE (1) ~ !!! The 2-Door was phased out of production prior to the end (June 22 2001), by about 90 days. The week that it was phased out, was also the weekthe Solar Yellow was phased in. They actually crossed paths for 4 days!
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Well, there is cost, demand, and regulations. If there are no regulations requiring it, and it costs more to do it, and nobody is asking for it, why WOULD they do it? They are not a charity or a public service, they are a corporation looking after the bottom line. Why would they increase their costs, and pass it on to the consumer, which would make them less competitive?
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according to my dealer the freedom package was intro in late 2000 for 2001. its primary purpose was to use up the parts that were in stock from eminent demise of the cherokee.
so if unique is what your after that is your jeep. every one is different. with options from sport to limited . in random config according to what was lying around. so you could get leather seats and manual locks.
* Power Windows & Power Door Locks with Remote Keyless Entry & Illuminated Entry
* Light Group with Auto-Off Headlamp Delay
* Up Country Suspension Package
* Trailer Tow Package
* Deep Tinted Sunscreen Glass
* Heated Exterior Mirrors
* Bodyside Protection Moulding (N.A. on "SE" normally)
* Cargo Area Security Screen
* Skid Plate Group
The FREEDOM APPEARANCE GROUP also included the Chrome Grille & Chrome Headlamp Frames From the LIMITED Model, as part of the package. In addition, the "Ultra-Star" 16" wheels & 16" tires from the 2001 60th Anniversary Sport made their debut on the FREEDOM APPEARANCE PACKAGE.
But, the really ODD thing, that makes this car so unique, is that it HAD to be ordered on the dealer's FLEET order form. Right! FLEET, because a dealer had to take 5 of them at a clip. The car sold at regular price (you know list minus a discount) BUT the dealer made a bigger profit, because he got FLEET money back. From what I can tell, from collecting VINs from SE's so equipped, they made more than 1,100 of them - but less than 1,500 of them with the FREEDOM APPEARANCE GROUP, and NO, no SE, SE FREEDOM, SPORT or CLASSIC had leather, Leather was the domain exclusively of the LIMITED from 1998 thru 2000. The 2001 Limited did come with cloth, leather moved over to the option list on the Limited in 2001.
On the exterior of the FREEDOM APPEARANCE GROUP cars, the "cherokee" the 4x4 and the JEEP emblems were chrome raised letters. On the "SE" these were silver mylar decals. Also, undere the "cherokee" on the front doors was a bright blue decal, outlined in silver in lower case script that said:- freedom
Here is a link, to see one:-
http://www.thejeepgoddess.com/Jeeps/Laurena.htm
If anyone has one here, please post your last 6 #s of your VIN, and car's color.
It's a very unusual piece, and was not repeated for the final year, which by the way was actually a year and a half, since 2001s went into production in May of 2000 and ended June 22 of 2001.
Anyway, its my first jeep and I pretty much knew what I was getting. Its my daily driver, I've owned it for 6 months and I've put almost 4K miles on it. It currently has 86K.
So here are my questions:
Occasionally in stop and go traffic but mostly related to just starting up, if I gradually give the vehicle gas to accelerate (translation - normal driving) there is a spot around 15mph where the car will miss out, lose power and generally cough back at until I let off the gas and reapply it.
After purchasing the car I had it tuned but I still have the original spark plug wires, distributor, etc. I had the fuel filter and the air filter replaced. Any ideas? I'd like to avoid the "let me guess while you pay for each time I'm wrong" routine at the local mechanic.
Second question - Road noise. I had to replace the radio with a 45watt number so I could actually hear music when I'm driving 75mph. I'm thinking tires are a big issue but its really just a very noisy car. Is trading off for more civilized tires worth the investment, like some all season radials instead of these AT/DC/ET whatever snow eaters? I live in Ohio so its not like I'm taking lumber trails thru the tundra here. I read the Dunlop RV? in 235/70/15 which is often onsale at sears for $69 a pop is a good quiet tire. Any other tips for quieting down the interior?
Finally, in low speeds, I have almost what I call a "roar" from my transmission until I get up into a higher gear and then after the shift into 3rd then its a very noticeable difference in volume. I had the transmission flushed the week I bought it and the mechanic said everything looked good. Normal? Worrisome?
Other than that, I love the power and how nimble this SUV feels. Since I'm only putting about 6 miles a day on it, then its not like all this noise is going to bother me too much, but if I can civilize it a tad, I'd like to.
as a side note, I installed the Bulldog auto starter for those cold mornings. I picked one up that also unlocked/locked my doors and trunk with two key fobs for $60. About an hour to install myself. Great for cold mornings.
also ,according to my source. just because it shows as being an orderable item does not make it so. the way it was explained to me , if there was one made with the options you desired and available you could get it . but no special orders. if you know someone that configured a freedom with only the the things they wanted and got all of them , i will stand corrected (been lied to before). also ,i was just exaggerating about the lordly leather seats.
Yes, it was a typo, the 1990.
Yes, the form states:
Retail Orders are now being accepted for the Mid-Year Cherokee SE with Freedom Appearace Group, Code ADF. It then went on to tell what I told above. Retail Orders are orders from the public. Dealer orders are called "wholesale" orders, and that indicates that the cars are UNsold, and are for inventory. If it's a "Spec" car, that means it is only built one way, with pre-set options, in one (or maybe two) exterior colors, and one interior. The Mfgr' runs through a bunch, say 1,500 or so and then the dealer zones allocate them to their "favorite" dealers..... (Politics, here now).
What made THIS car so UNusual was just that! The dealer had to order it on a FLEET order (recall mandatrory 5 units), YET it went in as a RETAIL OR WHOLSALE order! In other words, either ordered to spec for a consumer, or for inventory! That is what is so weird. A FLEET order comes in, and usually goes out within 2 days of
hitting the ground.
My contact states that he has 1,084 shipping bills for Freedoms, but acknowledges that he does not think that he has them all....
The "suggested" 5-unit order was for 1 in each color...i.e. Solar Yellow, Patriot Blue, Silverstone, Stone White & Flame Red.
Don't forget, there was back end money on these to the dealer as FLEET orders that they were. So, that is the part where the politics came in. (As in here's a gift of a car that you can sell for a bit more money 'cause it's SPECIAL, and you'll get a nice back end check as well. "Gift" see ??? There's a whole bunce of them on the web, 4-sale right now. You can do a search. I have found 2 Silverstone, 2 Solar Yellow, and 2 Stone White. Obviously the Patriot Blue & Flame Red have been kept longer ???? !!!
I think it's a pretty nifty & rare piece! Probably not as rare as my '01 Limited ~ but still pretty unusual sighting.
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Is this info correct, and is there anything i can do, aside from replacing the pads, that will eliminate the rattle?
I am leasing a 2000 Sport 4WD with only 16000 miles which is up Aug 3. Was wondering if others have had similar problems that I have had. Had the exhaust rattle but after 3 trips to dealer it seems to be fixed. Had, and still have, an intermittent brake noise although since having the rotors turned (by the dealer after much arguing; aren't rotors covered buy the warranty?) seems to be much better. Also had thumping noise in back, especially when wet which seems to be gone also since rotors were turned.
The biggest problem is the vibration at about 50 mph. My 98 also did this but much worse and my sisters 2000 was really bad. Had my 98 in several times for the vibration but dealer could not find anything. Kept rotating tires and telling me it was "normal" for a 4WD vehicle. (which seems to be the answer any time they can't find a problem.) Had this one in a couple of times for it also, but couldn't find anything of course. Was wondering if anyone else has had similar problems. Would bad rotors cause this? Had rotors turned because of vibration when braking which has stopped since they were turned. I think it is ridiculous to have brake problems at 16000 miles. Would appreciate any advice on this problem.
I really like the Cherokee and am thinking of buying it. Don't really care much for the Liberty. The buy out on this car is 15000. It is pretty much loaded with a sunroof. Anyone know what they go for on the used lot?
Thanks in advance.
Mine had the thumping in the rear (matched wheel speed) when it was raining/wet but that went away on it's own. My guess is the brake shoes just weren't seated yet and the wet made them slip a bit. This would not be effected by rotors as there are no rotors on the back.
Front rotor vibration is a pretty normal problem on trucks and suv's these days and not just the cherokee. Turning them is a band-aid fix. Mine started vibrating at 15K and the dealer replaced them under warranty at 25K. The rotors are technically not part of the 36K warranty, but are the 12K. However, the dealer DOES have the ability to get this stuff fixed. I wasn't going to pay for factory rotors again as a good set of aftermarket rotors (high performance) will last much longer, but they are expensive. However when they offered to replace mine instead of turning them, I let them go at it. When I need pads (still on originals) I'll upgrade to high performance rotors.
The vibration is plain and simple: Tires. You have Goodyear Wrangler RT/S and they are junk. I put 35K on a set and absolutely hated them. I had them rebalanced 5 times and everytime within 1000 miles they were vibrating again. I stuck on a set of Michelins and it's smooth as glass straight up to 90mph. Steering wheel has zero shake and the passenger seat doesn't shake like a wet dog anymore.
As far as value goes, best you'll do is check edmunds pricing. $15K seems high for a '00, however your mileage is rediculously low so I can't even comment on what it's really worth. Seems like you've worked out whatever kinks you've got (and I wouldn't do a thing with the tires until you decide if you're keeping it) so I'd probably consider buying it. You know the history of it and appreciate the vehicle. There isn't a small SUV on the market with the power and capability, and many of the bigger ones don't compare either.
Should have put 2 and 2 together on the vibration. Had Goodyears on other Chrysler vehicles and hated them also. When my 98 was vibrating, made the dealer replace tires at their expense because they told me, after 5 or 6 times bringing it in to service for the problem and having tires rotated, it was "poor maintenance". Needless to say I disagreed. Can't remember a problem after that but only had it for a few months more and they replaced them with the same tires.
Guess it was just coincidence that the thumping went away after rotors turned. Thought it was odd, but my 98 had the same thumping and had brakes replaced one week after I took it home. Had no problems after that. I thought the 36K warranty was bumper to bumper. Guess I will have to fight for that repair if I decide to buy it and need it again.
I agree about the power and capability. I can't find an SUV I like in my price range with a V6. Considering the Honda CR-V but hate to go down to a 4 cylinder. Plus was told that I might be able to negotiate the buy out price. Just tired of leasing and having to go through the new car thing every 2 or 3 years. Besides I take good care of my vehicles and have taken pretty good car of my 2000. Little worried about the engine fire thing but had the debris shield installed. Hopefully if nothing has happened by now nothing will.
Anyway, thanks you have been very helpful.
Michelin also makes an LTX-M/S which is an all-season like the RT/S. The RT/S was bare minimum tread style for the mud/snow I drive in. Someone seeing normal snow and rarely mud the LTX-M/S would be my choice. Those came standard on my Ram diesel and were very good tires, but didn't handle mud too well. They come in the stock 225/75 size through Michelin dealers as well.
If I wasn't driving as much on-road, there probably are some better choices for off-roading but they just don't have the all-around excellent characteristics of the Michelins. Plus the Michelins (in my experiences) last a good bit longer. They are usually alot more expensive so there probably isn't much of a monetary gain by using them, but they seem to wear smoother and drive very good all the way to the end of the tire life. My Goodyears still had pretty good tread left, but after about 20K miles they were a real pain and by 40K they had driven me crazy. I had an F-150 that came with the RT/S and they were actually pretty good tires on that vehicle, but sucked on the Cherokee.
To anyone that this applies to...How difficult is it for someone moderately mechanically inclined to do your own 30K service, such as tranny and transfer fluid flush and fill? Any hints or tips?
Thanks!!
I have had my shield installed too, and I haven't noticed anything yet. My Cherokee is a 2001.
In this 95 degree weather my jeep has decided to started jumping up to about 245 degrees when idling, and then dropping down to about 220 when I get on open road.
I just replaced the thermostat to no avail. When running the heater, the temp stabilizes at 210.
I've heard that cherokees are notorious for overheating because of an undersized radiator (2 row).
I'm thinking of going full blown 3 row radiator, engine oil cooler and tranny cooler for my '96 with 86K miles.
If I do the work myself I can do it all for about $225. I think its a good investment. Any advice?
The thing is the Cherokee runs hot.
Doing all of those things together will help with the longevity of the vehicle, I believe. I've got all of those included in my towing package.
Thanks for the info
One other thing I considered, even though I personally believe it would look silly is a modest hood scoop, more for the chance to let heat escape more than anything else.
Its hard to believe that an engine that size in such a tight space is performing optimally at that temperature. It just goes against everything I've ever been taught.
Wasn't this a known problem with the Grand's? Something about the transmission slipping into or out of gear? I think it even made the news.
But what's more likely is that your DMV friend might have a simple mistake on their hands or just a registration glitch. I've seen Grand Cherokees registered as a Cherokee, the VIN being the only indication that they were actually Grands. So a Cherokee with a V8 is quite possible on a DMV record. Plus I don't know why anyone would want to alter a title of a vehicle to reflect the fact they completely modified the vehicle. Insurance will eat you alive on a modified registered vehicle.
Bottom line: The only engines offered in the Jeep Cherokee (XJ) are the 2.8L Chevy V6 (until about 87-88 I think), 2.5L I4 and 4.0L I6. The Grand Cherokee has had the 5.2 (318), 5.9 (360, only in '98), 4.0L I6 and the new 4.7L V8.
https://www.mysnowsport.com/htmls/order.asp
They gave me one by mistake.
http://www.auto-parts-direct.com/jeep.htm