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Current Audi program is scheduled through the end of the year.
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I show the residual for the 2015 S4 Premium Plus to be 55% for 36mo, 15K/yr. You sure they aren't quoting 12K/yr?
Subtracting $1500 lowers the payment by about $42/mo.+tax.
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Thoughts on deal?
Would need to know the selling price.
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Currently quoted $660/mo with 1st month waived and with bank and plates upfront.
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.00098 MF and 58% for 36/10 on the S4 Premium Plus.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Kyfdx - see below for my deal
Sale price $51,193
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Money factor .00098
Residual $30,472
Acquisition incentive $1,000
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Currently quoted $660/mo with 1st month waived and with bank and plates upfront.
Should i be able to do better?
Thank you.
Looks like the $660/mo is a bit high, by comparison. Taxes should add another $40-45 to the payment, so $610-620/mo.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Was hoping you can tell me what you think of this deal I have teed up on a 2015 Audi S4 PremPlus
36 month/ 15k miles
MSRP: $55,405
Negotiated/Capitalized cost: $51,193
Money Factor: .00098
Residual: 55%
Due at signing is 1st payment and $65(transfer plates)
Live in NY. Taxes, bank fee all rolled into lease payment
Dealer is picking up 3 payments from current lease which totals $1,500
Monthly: $739
I'm receiving an incentive of $1,000. Audi also had an "up to $800 first month payment pickup" that I'm being told they are applying but I'm not sure how since I am paying the first months payment...
Can you please advise? Greatly appreciated.
Tax will add about $45/mo, and the $1500, I suspect, is being added into your cap cost, adding another $40/mo - voila! $740/mo.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP 56,620 incl Dest,Technology, and Black Optic Pkg
Discount: 5250 (9.27%)
Rebate: 1520 (includes 1000 conquest rebate and first month pmt rebate of 520)
Adjusted price 49,850
Audi Care 860
Total Cap Cost 50,710
Cash upfront (advertised lease special):
- 2799 cap cost reduction
- 695 acquisition fee
- 399 doc fee
- 300 tax (state of SC caps auto sales tax at 300)
- 58 tag and title
- 4,251 total cash upfront
MF .00098
.58 Residual
Final Lease Pmt: 520/mo lease 36 mos/10k
I couldn't make this work in a lease pmt calculator. I can only assume they are not providing the correct money factor. With that money factor I get a payment amount of 497.79
Let me know if any one has feedback!
Ask the dealer flat out what MF they are using.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
It looks like you did add the AudiCare to the CAP cost, already.
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$2975 total due at signing @ $534 per month (MSRP $56,365) allowing 10,000 miles per year, and including Audi Care. .59 Residual and .00098 MF. I calculated the deal and sent it to the dealer so I am sure this is right.
Cash upfront (advertised lease special):
- 1523 cap cost reduction
- 695 acquisition fee
- 399 doc fee
- 300 tax (state of SC caps auto sales tax at 300)
- 58 tag and title
- 2,975 total cash upfront
Pretty happy with this deal. Would have been roughly 577 with no cap cost reduction, but I wanted the lower payment.
This car is a beast - can't wait!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Msrp:59,000
selling:56,641
rebate:2112.87
cust cash: 1000
trade allow: 6,650
cap red:8,651
rt amt: 56%
money factor: .00165
audi care : 920
Sales tax 555.77
cap add: 695
adj cap cost: 50,161.40
monthly payment: 612.81
annual fee: 209
initial fee :290
thank you!
The base money factor is .00098, so they are marking it up a huge amount.
Also, I wouldn't put $6650 of trade equity down on a lease... have them cut you a check for it, and take the higher payment.
But, mostly... .work on that money factor.
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thank you!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP: $58675.00
Selling Price: $53300.00
Doc Fee: $80.00
Acquisition: $695.00
AudiCare: $920.00
License Fee: $437.00
Gross CAP: $55432.00
Rebate: $724.00 (Season of Audi?)
Residual: $34618.25 (0.59)
MF: 0.00098 (I think. Screen shot says 0.98 Rate/MF)
Base: $666.41
Tax: $58.31
Payment: $724.72
Thanks for any feedback!
2015 S4 Premium Plus?
9% off MSRP
Base acq.fee
Base money factor
Calculations are exact.
The rebate is the complimentary 1st payment
Looks live a very, very good deal, given the lease program available.
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From my research, I've been learning that the three most important numerical factors to focus on are: capitalized cost, money factor, and residual value. Based on this I have two questions:
- Is 0.00098 the best money factor that one could obtain, or can that be negotiated down? Is this even considered a "good" rate, or should that simply be standard from any Audi dealer?
- Is residual value negotiable?
My thinking is, if I can get 0.00098 and the residual value is non-negotiable, then the only thing left to negotiate is capitalized cost...
Residual is set by Audi FS and cannot be modified.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
I was quoted a residual value of 57% (MSRP is $59,320) for 12,000 miles a year. Is that accurate? I'm also being offered approximately a 6.32% discount from MSRP, but will try and get it down a little bit more.
Also, does changing the miles driven per year only affect the residual value? That is, it shouldn't affect the money factor or the capitalized cost, correct?
You can purchase AudiCare to cover the regular maintenance; this adds 1% to the residual.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
- Capitalized cost: $52,623.99
- Capitalized cost reduction (manufacturer rebate): $625
- Money factor: 0.00098
- Residual value: 58% (36 months/10K miles)
- State DMV fee: $473
- State tire fee: $8.75
- Acquisition fee: $695
- Dealer document fee: $80
- License/registration fee: $481.75
- Sales tax on rebate, acquisition fee, and document fee: $126
- First monthly payment: $625
- Customer cash: $2007.75
- Total Driveoff: $2632.75
- Monthly payment: $625 = $573.39 base + $51.61 tax
How does this look? Also, I don't understand how customer cash and total-drive off are calculated, and why I'm being charged the first monthly payment if the manufacturer rebate (Season of Audi?) is supposed to take care of that?Thanks.
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Also, the dealer just gave me a similar configuration, but with AudiCare. With AudiCare, the total capitalized cost goes up by $890 to $53,513.99, residual up to 59%, and total monthly payment $635.56.
Looks like the "customer rebate" is the first months payment. My calcs show a pre-tax payment of $605.17; your quote looks prettty good by comparison.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP $55,570
Selling price $52,998
Cash Down $5000
Term 36 months
MPY 10k
Residual $32,230
Money Factor .00078
Payment $643/month
I'm pretty sure that was a typo on the money factor. Also keep in mind that Texas has a 6.5% sales tax and it has to be paid on the entire sales cost of the car, even on a lease. The sales tax, all associated fees, and the first month's payment are rolled into the $5k cash down.
Is there anywhere I can negotiate to get this down some more? Thanks.
The base MF for the S4 was .00098 in December, but I've heard that the Audi numbers have been extended until 1/8/15.
However, using your numbers (including the .00078 MF), I get a payment of $643.35/mo, so spot on with your quote.
Only way to lower the payment is to negotiate a lower selling price, or put more money down (which we don't recommend).
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
I was quoted .00144 for a money factor for a 42 month lease.....Seems high based on the previous posts.
Thank you!
.00099 is the base MF for 42 month leases.. no info on conquest money
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I started with a MSRP of $56,365 and ended up with a selling price of $50.879. My local dealer could not get me there so I went to North Carolina to find a dealer that could and fortunately they had one equipped the same.
Final payment was 534/mo for 36 months at 10,000 miles/yr. My total cash at close was 2975 which included first months payment, tax, title, tag and $2877 cap cost reduction per lease docs. That doesn't make sense unless they put the rebates towards cap cost reduction which they must have since the lease docs showed $4,509 cash at close and I paid $2975 that included first months payment.
Make sure to get the Audi Care in your lease! It increases residual from 58% to 59% so the $860 fee is substantially offset. My deal above includes AudiCare. I see people posting payments of 650 to 750 on the same car and it just doesn't make sense.
BTW, the launch control with the automated manual is an extra special bonus that I didn't know about until after I purchased the vehicle. What a thrill to go 0-60 in 4.4 seconds! 1 month in and I love every minute in this car!