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  • asecasec Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2015

    See attached deal for details.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    edited January 2015
    @asec

    You can see the credit for the rebates on the first document. $1534. $1000 rebate and complimentary 1st payment ($534) from Audi.


    Thanks for posting your documents... very informative.

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  • btomasiebtomasie Member Posts: 30
    asec,
    congrats on your new S4 and great deal. Can you list out the options you have and trim level this is? Also, do you not have sales tax in your state?
  • chitown15chitown15 Member Posts: 5
    Input sought on Jan 36/12 Residual and Jan MF?
    Also would be keen to know if Audi still allows MSD and if each one buys down .00007? Many thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    chitown15 said:

    Input sought on Jan 36/12 Residual and Jan MF?
    Also would be keen to know if Audi still allows MSD and if each one buys down .00007? Many thanks!

    Audi does have an MSD program, but I don't know the specifics (.00007 sounds like BMW's program).

    .00079 MF and 56% residual for Premium Plus model. 53% for Prestige

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  • chitown15chitown15 Member Posts: 5
    Thank you. Yes that MSD buy down factor is the BMW program.
    Question back to you. Do residuals and MF rates fluctuate within a month or only monthly?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    chitown15 said:

    Thank you. Yes that MSD buy down factor is the BMW program.
    Question back to you. Do residuals and MF rates fluctuate within a month or only monthly?


    Generally, it's monthly... if there is any mid-month update, it's usually cash incentives.

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  • chitown15chitown15 Member Posts: 5
    Recommended sweetspot term wise for 12000 miles/yr on Prem Plus? 36, 39, 42? If 39 or 42 Residual and MF much appreciated.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    chitown15 said:

    Recommended sweetspot term wise for 12000 miles/yr on Prem Plus? 36, 39, 42? If 39 or 42 Residual and MF much appreciated.

    I like the 36 month term...but, 42 months is .00099 MF and 52% residual. That might give a slightly lower payment.

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  • chitown15chitown15 Member Posts: 5
    What's the general consensus on the extra tire care package (18" tires) and Audi Care on a 36 month lease?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    chitown15 said:

    What's the general consensus on the extra tire care package (18" tires) and Audi Care on a 36 month lease?


    Without knowing the price, I'll guess that it's overpriced...

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  • sparky94sparky94 Member Posts: 2
    chitown15 said:
    What's the general consensus on the extra tire care package (18" tires) and Audi Care on a 36 month lease?
    Audi care is sold at the dealer cost, and adds 10-15 bucks more a month to the payment. Go for it. The first and second service cost as much as audi care. And you can pro-rate a refund if you trade out before your 45k service.

  • bludoolbludool Member Posts: 4
    I am looking at a '15 S4. Here are details. Something is not adding up. Seems about $100 per month high.


    MSRP--$59,155
    Negotiated price--$55,966.10
    36 months
    7500 miles/year
    2000 down to cover first month's lease, "fees", cap reduction cost.
    Money Factor is .00079
    Residual is 58%.
    tax is 9.8%

    Monthly payment per dealer is $753.08

    Thoughts?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    bludool said:

    I am looking at a '15 S4. Here are details. Something is not adding up. Seems about $100 per month high.


    MSRP--$59,155
    Negotiated price--$55,966.10
    36 months
    7500 miles/year
    2000 down to cover first month's lease, "fees", cap reduction cost.
    Money Factor is .00079
    Residual is 58%.
    tax is 9.8%

    Monthly payment per dealer is $753.08

    Thoughts?


    Premium Plus model?

    That's the base money factor and the correct residual.

    I get $673/mo.+tax, or about $739/mo. So, just $14/mo. difference.. (if the CAP cost is the same as the sale price). How much of your $2000 is going to CAP reduction?

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  • bludoolbludool Member Posts: 4
    Yes,
    Premium plus model. $1,000 going to cap reduction.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042
    bludool said:
    Yes, Premium plus model. $1,000 going to cap reduction.
    That takes off about $28/mo on the payment. 

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  • jmaengjmaeng Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2015
    Hi I am looking to lease premium plus 2015 sq4 model.
    what is the MF and residual for Feb. 36months/10k thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042
    jmaeng said:
    Hi I am looking to lease premium plus 2015 sq4 model. what is the MF and residual for Feb. 36months/10k thanks
    .00079 and 57%

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  • g4teg4te Member Posts: 3
    Great forum. Starting negotiations and I just wanted confirm the February MF and residual for a 2015 Audi S4 Premium Plus 36months/10k and 12k. Also should these numbers be good through the end of February?
    Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042
    g4te said:

    Great forum. Starting negotiations and I just wanted confirm the February MF and residual for a 2015 Audi S4 Premium Plus 36months/10k and 12k. Also should these numbers be good through the end of February?
    Thanks in advance.

    .00079 and 56% / 57%. Audi numbers expire 3/3/15.

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  • uncletimeeuncletimee Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2015
    Can you please tell me the current February rate for the following?

    2015 S4 Premium Plus 36 Months 7.5K.

    + technology package

    Much Appreciated.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    Can you please tell me the current February rate for the following?

    2015 S4 Premium Plus 36 Months 7.5K.

    + technology package

    Much Appreciated.

    .00079 and 58%

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  • uncletimeeuncletimee Member Posts: 4
    thank you.

    Just got a quote for $699/month 42 month lease, 947.05 due at signing. 7500 miles per year.

    how does this quote sound?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    thank you.

    Just got a quote for $699/month 42 month lease, 947.05 due at signing. 7500 miles per year.

    how does this quote sound?

    Hard to say ... what is the MSRP and the net cap cost?

    42 / 7500 numbers are .00099 and 54%.

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  • uncletimeeuncletimee Member Posts: 4
    the MSRP is 52845. I don't know the net cap cost. Is that a number I can get from the dealership? thx.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    the MSRP is 52845. I don't know the net cap cost. Is that a number I can get from the dealership? thx.

    If you ask, they should provide it to you ... note that this is not the same as the agreed upon selling price. Net cap cost includes any taxes and fees added into the lease that you are not paying up front.

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  • uncletimeeuncletimee Member Posts: 4
    I have another deal that seems reasonable. please comment.

    Audi S4 automatic
    Florett silver metallic
    tech package
    front license plate holder
    audi connect
    supercharge badges
    audi guard protection kit
    audi guard wheel lock kit

    36 months
    7500 miles/year
    NY

    MSRP 54720
    Sale price 51617

    Monthly payment 740.20 (includes taxes 7.375%)
    1st payment, bank, DMV, dealer fees 2224.26

    Dealer will pay my last 2 payments on my current lease (total $816).

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    I have another deal that seems reasonable. please comment.

    Audi S4 automatic
    Florett silver metallic
    tech package
    front license plate holder
    audi connect
    supercharge badges
    audi guard protection kit
    audi guard wheel lock kit

    36 months
    7500 miles/year
    NY

    MSRP 54720
    Sale price 51617

    Monthly payment 740.20 (includes taxes 7.375%)
    1st payment, bank, DMV, dealer fees 2224.26

    Dealer will pay my last 2 payments on my current lease (total $816).

    Thank you.

    Me thinks the net cap cost is higher than the selling price they've given you - with those numbers, I'm showing $618.06/mo pre-tax, $663.64/mo after.

    They could be rolling in those last two payments, for starters. Ask the dealer for the net cap cost and make sure you understand how they got to that number from the selling price quoted.

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  • uncletimeeuncletimee Member Posts: 4
    Thank you for the feedback. My other offer is:

    Audi S4 automatic
    Ibis white
    tech package
    supercharge badges

    42 months
    7500 miles/year
    NY

    MSRP 55405
    Cap cost 54855.29

    Monthly payment 699.60
    947.50 due.

    Dealer will pay my last 2 payments on my current lease (total $816).

    Any comments on this deal and any suggestions on improving my position?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    Thank you for the feedback. My other offer is:

    Audi S4 automatic
    Ibis white
    tech package
    supercharge badges

    42 months
    7500 miles/year
    NY

    MSRP 55405
    Cap cost 54855.29

    Monthly payment 699.60
    947.50 due.

    Dealer will pay my last 2 payments on my current lease (total $816).

    Any comments on this deal and any suggestions on improving my position?

    With your numbers, I'm showing a payment of $627.07/mo. I assume taxes are included in the cap cost?

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  • fordtruck88fordtruck88 Member Posts: 5
    Great Comments & Forum guys, I am also considering a 2015 prem plus S4, I have a build price of $55,100 what is expected sale price? I am thinking they could let it go for $52,900? With a MF of .00079 and residual of 57% for 12k year 36 month lease. Is this a good deal or should I expect the dealer to have a lot of heartburn about this?

    Also, whats the best lease calculator out there? I am currently using the auto lease calculator dot com. seems pretty legit.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    Great Comments & Forum guys, I am also considering a 2015 prem plus S4, I have a build price of $55,100 what is expected sale price? I am thinking they could let it go for $52,900? With a MF of .00079 and residual of 57% for 12k year 36 month lease. Is this a good deal or should I expect the dealer to have a lot of heartburn about this?

    Also, whats the best lease calculator out there? I am currently using the auto lease calculator dot com. seems pretty legit.

    You have the MF right, but the 36/12 residual is 56%.

    Can't help you with the selling price - read back a few pages in this thread to see what type of discounts others have been getting.

    I built my own lease calculator in a spreadsheet.

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  • fordtruck88fordtruck88 Member Posts: 5
    dealerships are not budging, it may be the wrong time of year / month to lease cars, what are everyones thoughts on this? is my approach just off? most dealers around here are holding on to their MF pretty tightly... no one is budging below .0021 ish 900 payment per month at 55525 msrp - 1562 disc 12k yr / 36 month lease
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    dealerships are not budging, it may be the wrong time of year / month to lease cars, what are everyones thoughts on this? is my approach just off? most dealers around here are holding on to their MF pretty tightly... no one is budging below .0021 ish 900 payment per month at 55525 msrp - 1562 disc 12k yr / 36 month lease

    Could be a simple supply / demand issues - not enough supply and too much demand equals higher prices and rates.

    Audi dealers are allowed to inflate the MF by .00125 over the base rate. So, .00200 from .00079 is allowed - gouging, in my mind, but allowed.

    You might want to expand your search of Audi dealers - all it takes is one dealer to agree to your terms.

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  • four4ringsfour4rings Member Posts: 31
    I need some help with a 2015 Audi S4 Premium Plus with the following:
    Technology Pkg, Black Optic Pkg, Fine Napa, Sport Dif, B&O, Carbon Inlays
    MSRP: $59,320, selling Price is Invoice $56,188
    What is the Money factor for
    36 Month, 12K and
    42 Month 12K.
    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    I need some help with a 2015 Audi S4 Premium Plus with the following:
    Technology Pkg, Black Optic Pkg, Fine Napa, Sport Dif, B&O, Carbon Inlays
    MSRP: $59,320, selling Price is Invoice $56,188
    What is the Money factor for
    36 Month, 12K and
    42 Month 12K.
    Thank you.

    36/12 - .00079 and 56%

    42/12 - .00099 and 52%

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  • fordtruck88fordtruck88 Member Posts: 5
    good comments michaell thank you. this helps.
  • four4ringsfour4rings Member Posts: 31
    Thank you! Any chance of getting the MF lower on the 42 month to equal the 36 month of .00079? Also could you tell me the Residuals for 10K miles on both. Greatly appreciated.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    Thank you! Any chance of getting the MF lower on the 42 month to equal the 36 month of .00079? Also could you tell me the Residuals for 10K miles on both. Greatly appreciated.

    No, that is the base rate for leases longer than 36 months ... Audi would rather you lease for 36 months or less to get the lower MF.

    Add 1% to go from 12K to 10K

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  • ctchooeyctchooey Member Posts: 7
    Hello, could you share the MF and residual on a 2015 S4 Premium Plus for March? It would be for 36mo / 12k/yr. Thanks you for your help, and any other specials this month?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042
    ctchooey said:

    Hello, could you share the MF and residual on a 2015 S4 Premium Plus for March? It would be for 36mo / 12k/yr. Thanks you for your help, and any other specials this month?

    .00079 and 56%

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  • asecasec Member Posts: 11
    btomasie said:

    asec,
    congrats on your new S4 and great deal. Can you list out the options you have and trim level this is? Also, do you not have sales tax in your state?

    Sales tax is capped in South Carolina at $300 max. Here is the window sticker.


  • asecasec Member Posts: 11
    asec said:

    btomasie said:

    asec,
    congrats on your new S4 and great deal. Can you list out the options you have and trim level this is? Also, do you not have sales tax in your state?

    Sales tax is capped in South Carolina at $300 max. Here is the window sticker. MSRP was $56,620

    $534/mo 36 mo/10k miles - 2975 cash at close which includes first months payment and $300 sales tax. Received $1,000 conquest rebate and first months payment rebate of $534.




  • four4ringsfour4rings Member Posts: 31
    Not sure if it is just CA but I was able to negotiate $500 back of invoice at one dealer and another beat it at $1000 back of invoice. My deal ended up as follows: 2015 Prem + S4, S Tronic with an MSRP of $59,320, Adjusted Cap Cost (Selling Price) of $55,188. Total drive off of $2,500. 36 Month Lease with 10,000 miles, 57% Residual, .00079 MF, total payment with tax: $688. I am very happy with my deal. The buy out at Lease end is $33,812! Work the dealer with the most inventory over! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042

    Not sure if it is just CA but I was able to negotiate $500 back of invoice at one dealer and another beat it at $1000 back of invoice. My deal ended up as follows: 2015 Prem + S4, S Tronic with an MSRP of $59,320, Adjusted Cap Cost (Selling Price) of $55,188. Total drive off of $2,500. 36 Month Lease with 10,000 miles, 57% Residual, .00079 MF, total payment with tax: $688. I am very happy with my deal. The buy out at Lease end is $33,812! Work the dealer with the most inventory over! 

    Very nice deal; enjoy your new Audi!

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  • 14is414is4 Member Posts: 5
    Can I get current rates for a 2015 S4 Prestige 36 months 7500 & 10000 miles/year please?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    14is4 said:

    Can I get current rates for a 2015 S4 Prestige 36 months 7500 & 10000 miles/year please?


    .00079 MF and 55%/54% residual

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  • nyny10nyny10 Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2015
    Leasing Audi S4, Premium Plus, with Tech package, 19" wheel/tire package, black nappa leather, Mythos metallic black, auto, 12k miles per year, no money down, first month's payment due, Audi care included in lease. Paying $750/mo for 36 mos. (includes all taxes and fees)..Also, they picked up my last two months on my current lease ($425/mo-$850).opinions?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,042
    nyny10 said:

    Leasing Audi S4, Premium Plus, with Tech package, 19" wheel/tire package, black nappa leather, Mythos metallic black, auto, 12k miles per year, no money down, first month's payment due, Audi care included in lease. Paying $750/mo for 36 mos. (includes all taxes and fees)..Also, they picked up my last two months on my current lease ($425/mo-$850).opinions?

    What is the MSRP and selling price?

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