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2015 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Lease Question

tminatmina Member Posts: 14
edited December 2014 in Audi
Whats the MF and Residual for a 2015 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Lease?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    tmina said:

    Whats the MF and Residual for a 2015 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Lease?


    2.0T, 3.0T or TDI?

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  • tminatmina Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014
    2.0T

    In the state of Florida
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056
    tmina said:

    2.0T

    In the state of Florida

    .00134 and 56% for 36/12.

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  • hogan6hogan6 Member Posts: 13
    Need some help, being offered

    2015 Q5 2.0T Premium Plus (tech and premium packages)

    MSRP $47,275
    Selling Price: $42,500
    Residual: 58%
    MF .00209 (Tier B credit)
    36/10K
    Tax Monthly: 8.1%

    Will pay reg/doc fee etc up front. But 0 down other than that.

    They are saying $719/month (taxes and Audi Care included)

    Seems really high, and we can't get it to work out with those numbers on how they are getting $719 month.

    Thanks so much!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    hogan6 said:

    Need some help, being offered

    2015 Q5 2.0T Premium Plus (tech and premium packages)

    MSRP $47,275
    Selling Price: $42,500
    Residual: 58%
    MF .00209 (Tier B credit)
    36/10K
    Tax Monthly: 8.1%

    Will pay reg/doc fee etc up front. But 0 down other than that.

    They are saying $719/month (taxes and Audi Care included)

    Seems really high, and we can't get it to work out with those numbers on how they are getting $719 month.

    Thanks so much!

    If you add $860 for AudiCare and $695 for the acquisition fee, I still get only $611.mo.+tax or around $660/mo.

    The base money factor is .00134 and the B-tier markup is .00040, so that yields a base MF of .00174.. Looks like they are charging you the D-tier rate, or more likely, just marking that rate up for extra profit..

    So, about $60/mo. too much, plus an extra .00035 bump on the MF.

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  • hogan6hogan6 Member Posts: 13
    edited January 2015
    kyfdx said:

    If you add $860 for AudiCare and $695 for the acquisition fee, I still get only $611.mo.+tax or around $660/mo.

    The base money factor is .00134 and the B-tier markup is .00040, so that yields a base MF of .00174.. Looks like they are charging you the D-tier rate, or more likely, just marking that rate up for extra profit..

    So, about $60/mo. too much, plus an extra .00035 bump on the MF.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!! We were coming up with something close to the $660 number as well, but thought we were going crazy. Really, really appreciate your assistance. Happy New Year!

  • hotpotato1hotpotato1 Member Posts: 1
    Looking at
    2015 q5 2.0 38,900

    Tech package 4,000
    Premium Plus 2900
    19" wheel 800
    Sport Interior 750
    Audi guard 330
    Vehicle price 48,575
    Discount 2100
    Selling Price 46,475
    Taxes 3383
    Fees 389
    Out the door price 50,247
    (((Illinois)))

    1. These look pretty high to me:
    36/15 $794/month
    39/15 $786/month
    42/15 $765/month

    2. I thought in Illinois that now taxes would be calculated as part of the monthly payment? At 7.25%

    2. Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for 36/15, 39/15, and 42/15?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056

    Looking at
    2015 q5 2.0 38,900

    Tech package 4,000
    Premium Plus 2900
    19" wheel 800
    Sport Interior 750
    Audi guard 330
    Vehicle price 48,575
    Discount 2100
    Selling Price 46,475
    Taxes 3383
    Fees 389
    Out the door price 50,247
    (((Illinois)))

    1. These look pretty high to me:
    36/15 $794/month
    39/15 $786/month
    42/15 $765/month

    2. I thought in Illinois that now taxes would be calculated as part of the monthly payment? At 7.25%

    2. Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for 36/15, 39/15, and 42/15?

    1. We would need the selling price to model the payments
    2. Yes, the tax regulations changed on 1/1/15 so that only the monthly payment is taxed, not the entire sales amount.
    3. 36/15 - .00123 and 53%; 39/15 - .00143 and 51%; 42/15 - .00143 and 49%

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  • valeriesocoolvaleriesocool Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:
    Looking at 2015 q5 2.0 38,900 Tech package 4,000 Premium Plus 2900 19" wheel 800 Sport Interior 750 Audi guard 330 Vehicle price 48,575 Discount 2100 Selling Price 46,475 Taxes 3383 Fees 389 Out the door price 50,247 (((Illinois))) 1. These look pretty high to me: 36/15 $794/month 39/15 $786/month 42/15 $765/month 2. I thought in Illinois that now taxes would be calculated as part of the monthly payment? At 7.25% 2. Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for 36/15, 39/15, and 42/15?
    1. We would need the selling price to model the payments 2. Yes, the tax regulations changed on 1/1/15 so that only the monthly payment is taxed, not the entire sales amount. 3. 36/15 - .00123 and 53%; 39/15 - .00143 and 51%; 42/15 - .00143 and 49%

    ------------
    selling price is 46,475
    taxes re-quoted at 1900
    they are saying:
    39/15k .00163  52%
    42/15k .00163 50%

    my calculations for monthly are coming in much lower than their quotes

    how do I get them to come down on MF ?

    thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056


    Michaell said:

    Looking at
    2015 q5 2.0 38,900

    Tech package 4,000
    Premium Plus 2900
    19" wheel 800
    Sport Interior 750
    Audi guard 330
    Vehicle price 48,575
    Discount 2100
    Selling Price 46,475
    Taxes 3383
    Fees 389
    Out the door price 50,247
    (((Illinois)))

    1. These look pretty high to me:
    36/15 $794/month
    39/15 $786/month
    42/15 $765/month

    2. I thought in Illinois that now taxes would be calculated as part of the monthly payment? At 7.25%

    2. Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for 36/15, 39/15, and 42/15?

    1. We would need the selling price to model the payments
    2. Yes, the tax regulations changed on 1/1/15 so that only the monthly payment is taxed, not the entire sales amount.
    3. 36/15 - .00123 and 53%; 39/15 - .00143 and 51%; 42/15 - .00143 and 49%

    ------------
    selling price is 46,475
    taxes re-quoted at 1900
    they are saying:
    39/15k .00163  52%
    42/15k .00163 50%

    my calculations for monthly are coming in much lower than their quotes

    how do I get them to come down on MF ?

    thanks!



    Politely but firmly tell them you won't sign any deal that includes an inflated MF. Then, reach out to a second Audi dealer - competition will help you get the best deal.

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  • cysj11104cysj11104 Member Posts: 18
    Audi Q5 premium plus/ tech-premium package with $800 wheels.
    Hi guys,
    This is my first time leasing a vehicle. Currently negotiating the price and maybe it could be somewhere near $45,500 or $44,500. Planning to lease for 36months 12K/year.
    Registering in Alaska which will exclude the tax.
    Can anybody tell me what is a good MF for this deal? And what numbers are going to be good or fair lease.

    And also Im planning to trade in my 2012 premium sound package Volkswagen Beetle and pay any down that's required.

    Sooooooooo new at this.. Need help!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    cysj11104 said:

    Audi Q5 premium plus/ tech-premium package with $800 wheels.
    Hi guys,
    This is my first time leasing a vehicle. Currently negotiating the price and maybe it could be somewhere near $45,500 or $44,500. Planning to lease for 36months 12K/year.
    Registering in Alaska which will exclude the tax.
    Can anybody tell me what is a good MF for this deal? And what numbers are going to be good or fair lease.

    And also Im planning to trade in my 2012 premium sound package Volkswagen Beetle and pay any down that's required.

    Sooooooooo new at this.. Need help!!


    Is it a 2.0T or 3.0T model?

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  • cysj11104cysj11104 Member Posts: 18
    Hi, 
    it's 2.0 T
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    cysj11104 said:

    Hi, 
    it's 2.0 T


    .00123 MF and 55% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr

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  • cysj11104cysj11104 Member Posts: 18
    Thanks
    got to ask you one more.
    Should I trade my beetle for down payment? or should I take off more from the sticker?
    What do you recommand?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056
    cysj11104 said:

    Thanks
    got to ask you one more.
    Should I trade my beetle for down payment? or should I take off more from the sticker?
    What do you recommand?

    We do not recommend using trade equity to lower the cap cost. Have the dealer cut you a check for the equity or use it for multiple security deposits to buy down the money factor.

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  • moorech99moorech99 Member Posts: 1
    Could you please provide the residual and money factor for 2015 Q5 prem plus 3.0 with 12k miles for 36 months in Oklahoma? THanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    moorech99 said:

    Could you please provide the residual and money factor for 2015 Q5 prem plus 3.0 with 12k miles for 36 months in Oklahoma? THanks.


    .00116 MF and 57% residual

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  • superlightdavesuperlightdave Member Posts: 10
    Could you please provide the residual and money factor for 2015 Q5 prem plus 3.0 with 12k miles for 36 months in New Jersey as well as the 2015 Q5 prem ples 2.0? Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056

    Could you please provide the residual and money factor for 2015 Q5 prem plus 3.0 with 12k miles for 36 months in New Jersey as well as the 2015 Q5 prem ples 2.0? Thanks.

    2.0 - .00123 and 55%

    3.0 - .00116 and 57%

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  • quattro9quattro9 Member Posts: 8
    Hello,

    I am currently looking for a Q5 Premium or Premium Plus (2.0t), which would include navigation, heated seats. Lease with 12k miles a year--would you be able to provide the residual and MF in California for Tier 1 credit? Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056
    quattro9 said:

    Hello,

    I am currently looking for a Q5 Premium or Premium Plus (2.0t), which would include navigation, heated seats. Lease with 12k miles a year--would you be able to provide the residual and MF in California for Tier 1 credit? Thanks in advance!

    36/12 Premium 2.0T - .00123 and 58%

    Subtract 3% for Premium Plus.

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  • nosh1nosh1 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    I am in mid deal on a 2015 gas 3.0 premium plus. sticker is $55,365. Worked it down to 49,500! Dealer is giving me 52% residual and .00118 Money factor on a 42month/12K lease. does this seem right? What should my payment come out to for California
    Appreciate your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056
    nosh1 said:

    Hi,
    I am in mid deal on a 2015 gas 3.0 premium plus. sticker is $55,365. Worked it down to 49,500! Dealer is giving me 52% residual and .00118 Money factor on a 42month/12K lease. does this seem right? What should my payment come out to for California
    Appreciate your help!

    I confirm the base MF of .00118 - the base residual is 51% for 42/12 on the 3.0T P+; are you by chance getting AudiCare? That would add 1% to the residual.

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get a pre-tax payment of $585.48/mo.

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  • bananaminionbananaminion Member Posts: 49
    Hi,

    I am given this offer for a 2.0 premium plus with tech package. I requested the quote with Audi Care. (Location: Los Angeles) (36 months term lease, 12k miles/year)

    MSRP is $47,930
    Lease Price is $43,000
    Due at Signing: $497.00
    Payment 35 months x $598.40 + tax = $652.26
    MF: .00105
    RV%: 55%

    With Audi Care (i think its $860) added to the lease selling price, my calculation for the pre-tax monthly payment is $560.

    Where did I do my math wrong?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182

    Hi,

    I am given this offer for a 2.0 premium plus with tech package. I requested the quote with Audi Care. (Location: Los Angeles) (36 months term lease, 12k miles/year)

    MSRP is $47,930
    Lease Price is $43,000
    Due at Signing: $497.00
    Payment 35 months x $598.40 + tax = $652.26
    MF: .00105
    RV%: 55%

    With Audi Care (i think its $860) added to the lease selling price, my calculation for the pre-tax monthly payment is $560.

    Where did I do my math wrong?

    Thanks!

    Your calculation is correct, assuming that $43K is not just the selling price, but also the CAP cost. But, with only $497 due at signing, it looks like they've capitalized the 1st payment and acquisition fee, at least.

    I think if you add ($695 + $560) plus sales tax to your CAP cost, you'll come out pretty close to their number.

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  • bananaminionbananaminion Member Posts: 49
    Thanks kyfdx!

    You were right. The $43k does not include the acquisition / doc / registration / audi care etc fee
    With all the fees added up, the selling price became somewhere above $45k.

    I wonder what would be called a good deal for the 2015 model now. Is it crazy to talk down to a deal with selling price at $42k (including all fees)? Or should I wait for the 2016 model (don't know when it will be released ...)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056

    Thanks kyfdx!

    You were right. The $43k does not include the acquisition / doc / registration / audi care etc fee
    With all the fees added up, the selling price became somewhere above $45k.

    I wonder what would be called a good deal for the 2015 model now. Is it crazy to talk down to a deal with selling price at $42k (including all fees)? Or should I wait for the 2016 model (don't know when it will be released ...)

    You are getting close to 10% off sticker already, which is very strong for an Audi - we normally see transaction prices about 4-6% off sticker.

    However, if you don't ask, you don't get -- see what the dealer says about $42K.

    Lease numbers on the 2016 are almost certain to be worse (higher residual, but higher MF to offset).

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  • bananaminionbananaminion Member Posts: 49
    Thanks Michaell.

    I got the response from the dealer and here is the new offer (with Audi care).

    MSRP is $47,930
    Lease Price is $41,229
    Due at Signing: $500.00
    Payment 35 months x $598.40 + tax = $652.26
    MF: .00105
    RV%: 55%

    I think I will go with this.
  • bananaminionbananaminion Member Posts: 49
    Oops ...
    the 35 months payment should be $593.58 including tax
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056

    Thanks Michaell.

    I got the response from the dealer and here is the new offer (with Audi care).

    MSRP is $47,930
    Lease Price is $41,229
    Due at Signing: $500.00
    Payment 35 months x $598.40 + tax = $652.26
    MF: .00105
    RV%: 55%

    I think I will go with this.

    What is the net cap cost? With the numbers you've given me, I get $484/mo before tax.

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  • bananaminionbananaminion Member Posts: 49
    The acquisition fee, registration fee, doc prep fee together with the Audi care adds up to be $2181. The net cap becomes somewhere $43400.

    Does that sound right to you?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182

    The acquisition fee, registration fee, doc prep fee together with the Audi care adds up to be $2181. The net cap becomes somewhere $43400.

    Does that sound right to you?

    AudiCare is $829 and acq.fee is $695. That leaves $657 for the rest of it..

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  • cirpina1cirpina1 Member Posts: 2
    Do lease terms differ for a used Q5?

    I'm looking at either a used 2015 Q5 TDI premium plus or 2015 Q5 TDI Prestige. What are the RV and MF? What about the registration and acquisition fees...how do those change?

    thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    cirpina1 said:

    Do lease terms differ for a used Q5?

    I'm looking at either a used 2015 Q5 TDI premium plus or 2015 Q5 TDI Prestige. What are the RV and MF? What about the registration and acquisition fees...how do those change?

    thanks!

    We don't have the numbers for used cars. If they are 2015 service loaners or demos, they may be eligible for the new car program, but you'd have to check with the dealer. If they aren't eligible, they would likely be more expensive to lease than a new one.

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  • cirpina1cirpina1 Member Posts: 2
    Thanks kyfdx! What are the current lease terms for a new 2015 and 2016 Q5 TDI premium plus? TIA.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056
    cirpina1 said:

    Thanks kyfdx! What are the current lease terms for a new 2015 and 2016 Q5 TDI premium plus? TIA.

    36/15 numbers:
    2015 - .00189 and 53%
    2016 - .00169 and 57%

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  • bjhunnicuttbjhunnicutt Member Posts: 18
    In VT considering a 2016 Audi Q5 3.0T Premium Plus lease, 12 or 15k/mo, prob 36 mos. MSRP $52,180. They have one on the lot. What would a good deal look like on this right now? I might end up buying at the end - not sure. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182

    In VT considering a 2016 Audi Q5 3.0T Premium Plus lease, 12 or 15k/mo, prob 36 mos. MSRP $52,180. They have one on the lot. What would a good deal look like on this right now? I might end up buying at the end - not sure. Thanks!

    Please post in the 2016 discussion:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/35587/audi/q5/2016-audi-q5-lease-questions#latest

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