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  • 4rocknyc4rocknyc Member Posts: 8
    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    4rocknyc said:

    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee

    We sold need to know the MSRP and selling price to tell you if it's a good deal or not.

    39 month residuals are often promoted; it's up to you what lease term you are comfortable with.

    Acura base Acquisition fee is $595.

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  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    edited June 2015
    audi19 said:

    Hi
    I am in Los Angeles and got today following deals from dealers:

    First dealer:
    VEHICLE: 2016 ACURA MDX

    VEHICLE OPTIONS: TECH SHAWD
    MSRP: $ 50,210
    SELLING PRICE: $ 45,900*


    Sale Price $45,900
    Lease terms: 36 Months at 12 Miles a year
    Moneyfacto: .00141
    Residual; 62% for 12k
    Min Drive off: $1105.96
    Payment pre tax $533.88 (after tax) $582.01
    Sale Price $45,900

    2016 Acura MDX Tech SH AWD + Acura Watch Plus
    MSRP:51410

    Invoice: 48187.97
    Selling Price: 47187.97
    MF: .000141
    Res:60%

    Second dealer:
    Lease Terms: 12k miles / 36 months with similar deals about 1000 less than invoice price with same MF and residuals:
    2016 MDX TECH SH-AWD $1115.80 DOWN 12K $590 INCLUDING TAX
    WITH ACURA WATCH $1150.63 DOWN 12K $619 INCLUDING TAX

    Do you think a good deal? Pls advise

    Thanks!

  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    edited June 2015
    When you say "$1150.63 down" does that mean that amount PLUS the first month payment or does that amount include the first month payment?
  • scoop164scoop164 Member Posts: 16
    just wanted to confirm the money factor and residual for MDX tech 2WD? It should be .000141 and 60%, right?
  • scoop164scoop164 Member Posts: 16
    For 10k, 12k, and 15k---southeast (sc)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    scoop164 said:

    just wanted to confirm the money factor and residual for MDX tech 2WD? It should be .000141 and 60%, right?

    scoop164 said:

    For 10k, 12k, and 15k---southeast (sc)

    I confirm the .00141 MF.

    36/15 residual is 60%. Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K

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  • scoop164scoop164 Member Posts: 16
    Thanks for the figures. I have a couple of general questions. First, do money factors decrease/increase as the year goes on? Second, interest rates are rising--will this impact money factor/lease rates?

    Last, is the money factor negotiable for those who have top-tier credit? Sorry for all of the questions. I just wanted to see if it is likely that better rates will be available later in the year for the 2016 MDX.
  • 12th_man12th_man Member Posts: 2
    hi there anyone have any lease "wins" in the state of Washington, greater Seattle area? looking lease 2016 mdx awd with Tech package. i am aware of acura national promo for $439/mo and $2999 down. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    scoop164 said:

    Thanks for the figures. I have a couple of general questions. First, do money factors decrease/increase as the year goes on? Second, interest rates are rising--will this impact money factor/lease rates?

    Last, is the money factor negotiable for those who have top-tier credit? Sorry for all of the questions. I just wanted to see if it is likely that better rates will be available later in the year for the 2016 MDX.

    1) Money factors vary depending on how the manufacturer decides to market their cars, and what numbers they need to get a payment that will sell. No real trend to up or down.

    2) In a macro trend, interest rates will affect money factors, but not short-term.. see 1).

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  • ana8115ana8115 Member Posts: 7
    Can you confirm that the money factor and residual for a 2016 mdx 2wd with technology package for a 15k/36mo lease are .00131 and 60%?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    ana8115 said:

    Can you confirm that the money factor and residual for a 2016 mdx 2wd with technology package for a 15k/36mo lease are .00131 and 60%?

    .00141 MF and 60% residual. .00131 only on the "$0 due at signing" lease

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  • chicobeans1chicobeans1 Member Posts: 3
    with regards to the MDX base AWD, it appears that in NJ many dealers include the destination charge in the MSRP. For instance, I am comparing two dealers - one with an MSRP of $45,785 (which includes a $920 destination charge) and one with an MSRP of $44,865 ($45,785 - $920). How does this impact - if at all - the calculation of the residual? Shouldn't it be the same for both dealers? Even though the former dealer is quoting an MSRP of $45,785, doesn't the destination charge need to be subtracted before calculating the residual?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588

    with regards to the MDX base AWD, it appears that in NJ many dealers include the destination charge in the MSRP. For instance, I am comparing two dealers - one with an MSRP of $45,785 (which includes a $920 destination charge) and one with an MSRP of $44,865 ($45,785 - $920). How does this impact - if at all - the calculation of the residual? Shouldn't it be the same for both dealers? Even though the former dealer is quoting an MSRP of $45,785, doesn't the destination charge need to be subtracted before calculating the residual?

    The residual is calculated on the bottom number of the Monroney sticker.. including destination.

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  • firefox77firefox77 Member Posts: 14
    Is there an online source for the 0.00131 MF for $0 due as signing lease, or is it a standard rate at all dealerships?

    the MF dealer gave me was 0.00141. I didn't specifically ask about $0 due lease though.
    kyfdx said:

    ana8115 said:

    Can you confirm that the money factor and residual for a 2016 mdx 2wd with technology package for a 15k/36mo lease are .00131 and 60%?

    .00141 MF and 60% residual. .00131 only on the "$0 due at signing" lease
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    firefox77 said:

    Is there an online source for the 0.00131 MF for $0 due as signing lease, or is it a standard rate at all dealerships?

    the MF dealer gave me was 0.00141. I didn't specifically ask about $0 due lease though.

    kyfdx said:

    ana8115 said:

    Can you confirm that the money factor and residual for a 2016 mdx 2wd with technology package for a 15k/36mo lease are .00131 and 60%?

    .00141 MF and 60% residual. .00131 only on the "$0 due at signing" lease
    No on-line source, though you might see some ads for it.

    It's pretty restrictive... it HAS to be $0 due at signing, other than government fees... No trade equity or CAP cost reductions, and the dealer has to contribute the 1st payment.. It's not worth messing up a negotiated deal to get the difference in money factor.

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  • scoop164scoop164 Member Posts: 16
    kyfdx said:

    scoop164 said:

    Thanks for the figures. I have a couple of general questions. First, do money factors decrease/increase as the year goes on? Second, interest rates are rising--will this impact money factor/lease rates?

    Last, is the money factor negotiable for those who have top-tier credit? Sorry for all of the questions. I just wanted to see if it is likely that better rates will be available later in the year for the 2016 MDX.

    1) Money factors vary depending on how the manufacturer decides to market their cars, and what numbers they need to get a payment that will sell. No real trend to up or down.

    2) In a macro trend, interest rates will affect money factors, but not short-term.. see 1).
    Thanks! I am going to try and negotiate the money factor.
  • 4rocknyc4rocknyc Member Posts: 8
    edited June 2015
    4rocknyc said:

    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee


    We sold need to know the MSRP and selling price to tell you if it's a good deal or not.

    39 month residuals are often promoted; it's up to you what lease term you are comfortable with.

    Acura base Acquisition fee is $595.

    Unfortunately the dealer never got back to me with the MSRP and selling price. However, I received a better quote (at least I think). Can you please take a look and see if it's indeed a better deal. Thanks!

    capital cost $ 47018
    residual 63%
    residual $ 31,632
    36 month at 10,000 miles per year
    Monthly payment : $538 (including tax)
    security deposits $0
    acquisition fee $595
    Upfront taxes: $1,729
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    4rocknyc said:

    4rocknyc said:

    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee


    We sold need to know the MSRP and selling price to tell you if it's a good deal or not.

    39 month residuals are often promoted; it's up to you what lease term you are comfortable with.

    Acura base Acquisition fee is $595.

    Unfortunately the dealer never got back to me with the MSRP and selling price. However, I received a better quote (at least I think). Can you please take a look and see if it's indeed a better deal. Thanks!

    capital cost $ 47018
    residual 63%
    residual $ 31,632
    36 month at 10,000 miles per year
    Monthly payment : $538 (including tax)
    security deposits $0
    acquisition fee $595
    Upfront taxes: $1,729

    Assuming MSRP is $50210.. the calculations are correct..

    You really need to know the MSRP when you get a quote... otherwise, what seems like a good price could be the dealer selling you a lower priced vehicle.

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  • syntax53syntax53 Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2015
    Do you have june numbers for a 2016 AWD mdx advance ? also, is there different numbers for the 0 down deals? thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    syntax53 said:

    Do you have june numbers for a 2016 AWD mdx advance ? also, is there different numbers for the 0 down deals? thanks

    .00141 MF and 57% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr

    .00131 MF if "$0 Due at Signing"

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  • abhizeus007abhizeus007 Member Posts: 2
    Please review the below and let me know if this is a good deal for 2016 Acura MDX AWD with Tech:

    MSRP: 50,210
    Selling price: 46,271
    Cap Cost: 46,866
    MF:0.00131
    Residual: 31,632.30
    Least term: 36 Months, 10K miles.

    Lease price : $558.89 (Including Taxes, MA tax is 6.25%)
    Money Down: $1011.64 ($558.89 1st lease payment+Doc Fee: $352.75 Plates & Reg: $100 )
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916

    Please review the below and let me know if this is a good deal for 2016 Acura MDX AWD with Tech:

    MSRP: 50,210
    Selling price: 46,271
    Cap Cost: 46,866
    MF:0.00131
    Residual: 31,632.30
    Least term: 36 Months, 10K miles.

    Lease price : $558.89 (Including Taxes, MA tax is 6.25%)
    Money Down: $1011.64 ($558.89 1st lease payment+Doc Fee: $352.75 Plates & Reg: $100 )

    My numbers are within .01 of yours. Only way to make this a better deal is to negotiate a lower selling price.

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  • syntax53syntax53 Member Posts: 6
    kyfdx said:

    syntax53 said:

    Do you have june numbers for a 2016 AWD mdx advance ? also, is there different numbers for the 0 down deals? thanks

    .00141 MF and 57% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr

    .00131 MF if "$0 Due at Signing"
    My fault for not specifying, what about at 10k/yr? thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    syntax53 said:
    Do you have june numbers for a 2016 AWD mdx advance ? also, is there different numbers for the 0 down deals? thanks
    .00141 MF and 57% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr .00131 MF if "$0 Due at Signing"
    My fault for not specifying, what about at 10k/yr? thanks
    Add 3% for 10k residual. 

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  • 4rocknyc4rocknyc Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:

    4rocknyc said:

    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee

    We sold need to know the MSRP and selling price to tell you if it's a good deal or not.

    39 month residuals are often promoted; it's up to you what lease term you are comfortable with.

    Acura base Acquisition fee is $595.
    Thanks for the quick respond! Yes, MSRP is $50,210. So is the latest quote a good deal?
    kyfdx said:

    4rocknyc said:

    4rocknyc said:

    Hi,

    I'm in Nassau county, New York looking to lease a 2016 MDX with tech package. The dealer came back with monthly payment $503 for 39 month. 10,000 miles each year, acquisition fee is $995, doc fee $135 and upfront tax is $1,797. A few questions, is this a good deal over all? I'm not sure if it's a typo but why is the term for 39 month instead of 36. Also, is the acquisition fee reasonable? I see MDX has $0 (down payment
    , security deposit & first month's payment) due at lease sign special on Acura website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dee
    We sold need to know the MSRP and selling price to tell you if it's a good deal or not.

    39 month residuals are often promoted; it's up to you what lease term you are comfortable with.

    Acura base Acquisition fee is $595.

    Unfortunately the dealer never got back to me with the MSRP and selling price. However, I received a better quote (at least I think). Can you please take a look and see if it's indeed a better deal. Thanks!

    capital cost $ 47018
    residual 63%
    residual $ 31,632
    36 month at 10,000 miles per year
    Monthly payment : $538 (including tax)
    security deposits $0
    acquisition fee $595
    Upfront taxes: $1,729

    Assuming MSRP is $50210.. the calculations are correct..

    You really need to know the MSRP when you get a quote... otherwise, what seems like a good price could be the dealer selling you a lower priced vehicle.

    Thanks for the quick respond! Yes, MSRP is $50,210. So is the latest quote a good deal?

  • cobeast1cobeast1 Member Posts: 16
    Hello, I didn't end up doing anything last month so can you refresh the $ factor, residual value, fees and if there are any specials this month for an MDX AWD w/ Tech NO Acura Watch for 36 month, 10k miles?

    Much Thanks,
    D in NY
  • ana8115ana8115 Member Posts: 7
    I just called the dealer and they said the residual was 58% for MDX FWD w Tech 15k/36mo in Texas. I believe the residual is 60%. Would it be reasonable for me to negotiate to get 60%?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    ana8115 said:

    I just called the dealer and they said the residual was 58% for MDX FWD w Tech 15k/36mo in Texas. I believe the residual is 60%. Would it be reasonable for me to negotiate to get 60%?

    Dealer cannot adjust the residual ... it is set by the bank.

    Call another dealer and see what they have to say.

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  • skellerdcskellerdc Member Posts: 2
    I'm looking to lease a 2016 MDX AWD with Tech Package. I want to get total cost of a 36 month lease @ 10K/yr to between $18-20k. Any advice on how to negotiate this? Ok with putting money down. Thank you for your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    skellerdc said:

    I'm looking to lease a 2016 MDX AWD with Tech Package. I want to get total cost of a 36 month lease @ 10K/yr to between $18-20k. Any advice on how to negotiate this? Ok with putting money down. Thank you for your help!

    You want to start by negotiating the best price you can, just like you were buying the car. Use the price tools at the top of the page (make / model / year) to help with that.

    The lease numbers are 63% residual and .00141.

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  • skellerdcskellerdc Member Posts: 2
    Thanks Michaell!
  • armistryarmistry Member Posts: 4
    Great forum and lots of useful info!

    Please provide current numbers for 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv and 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv+Enter trims.

    thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    armistry said:

    Great forum and lots of useful info!

    Please provide current numbers for 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv and 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv+Enter trims.

    thanks

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • ybeezy2k3ybeezy2k3 Member Posts: 4
    I'm also looking for info for a 2016 SH-AWD Advance+ent for 36m/10k in Ca
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    ybeezy2k3 said:

    I'm also looking for info for a 2016 SH-AWD Advance+ent for 36m/10k in Ca

    .00141 and 59%

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  • armistryarmistry Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    armistry said:

    Great forum and lots of useful info!

    Please provide current numbers for 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv and 2016 MDX SH-AWD Adv+Enter trims.

    thanks

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36 mon/15k
  • armistryarmistry Member Posts: 4
    I have been quoted these by NJ dealer:
    For the 2016 SH-AWD Advance MDX:
    MSRP:$56,000
    Money Factor:.00141
    Residual:57%

    For the 2016 SH-AWD Advance/Entertainment MDX:
    MSRP:$58,000
    Money Factor:.00141
    Residual: 56%

    besides msrp, anything else I can negotiate?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    armistry said:

    I have been quoted these by NJ dealer:
    For the 2016 SH-AWD Advance MDX:
    MSRP:$56,000
    Money Factor:.00141
    Residual:57%

    For the 2016 SH-AWD Advance/Entertainment MDX:
    MSRP:$58,000
    Money Factor:.00141
    Residual: 56%

    besides msrp, anything else I can negotiate?

    Those are the correct lease variables.

    You can't really negotiate the MSRP... but, you can negotiate the selling price. (I know..that's what you meant).

    Then, just watch out for extraneous charges, and verify the calculations.

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  • nesrocknesrock Member Posts: 10
    does Acura do MSDs?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,588
    nesrock said:

    does Acura do MSDs?

    Nope

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  • dougsfldougsfl Member Posts: 5
    Michaell, I am looking to buy my wife a base, FWD which I've negotiated with the dealer to $38,923before fees, which would total about $1900.00, putting the cap cost at about $40,823.00. Using the numbers I've been reading on this thread (great thread, by the way), that would put the residual at $25,718.49 and at a .00141 or 3.3% rate, I'd be looking at $441.26 plus the 6% tax in FL or $26.48 for a total of $467.73. Is that about right or am I missing something here? Thank you for all the help you've put in here on this thread!
  • dougsfldougsfl Member Posts: 5
    Oh and I forgot, a 36 month lease with 10K per year. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    dougsfl said:

    Michaell, I am looking to buy my wife a base, FWD which I've negotiated with the dealer to $38,923before fees, which would total about $1900.00, putting the cap cost at about $40,823.00. Using the numbers I've been reading on this thread (great thread, by the way), that would put the residual at $25,718.49 and at a .00141 or 3.3% rate, I'd be looking at $441.26 plus the 6% tax in FL or $26.48 for a total of $467.73. Is that about right or am I missing something here? Thank you for all the help you've put in here on this thread!

    dougsfl said:

    Oh and I forgot, a 36 month lease with 10K per year. Thanks!

    What is the MSRP?

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  • dougsfldougsfl Member Posts: 5
    Sadly, I didn't take that number with me, but according to Acura's site, it's $42,865.00
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    dougsfl said:

    Sadly, I didn't take that number with me, but according to Acura's site, it's $42,865.00

    I get $468/mo before tax with those numbers.

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  • dougsfldougsfl Member Posts: 5
    OK. Does that sound like a reasonable deal? I read a few pages back, someone getting a loaded AWD for the high $4 hundreds on a plus 50 msrp...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    dougsfl said:

    OK. Does that sound like a reasonable deal? I read a few pages back, someone getting a loaded AWD for the high $4 hundreds on a plus 50 msrp...

    It all depends on what price you're able to negotiate.

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  • dougsfldougsfl Member Posts: 5
    One last question and forgive the ignorance, but is the residual based on the MSRP or the negotiated price? I ask because we got down to $38,923 from the msrp of $42,865.
    Thanks again!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,916
    dougsfl said:
    One last question and forgive the ignorance, but is the residual based on the MSRP or the negotiated price? I ask because we got down to $38,923 from the msrp of $42,865. Thanks again!
    Residual is based off the bottom line number on the window sticker (including destination)

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