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Road Trip Hits an Abrupt End in Boise - 2015 Audi A3 Long-Term Road Test
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Road Trip Hits an Abrupt End in Boise - 2015 Audi A3 Long-Term Road Test
Our 2015 Audi A3 was in no position to make the return trip from Boise, Idaho, after suffering damage literally within sight of our destination.
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oil pump pick up is close to the bottom of the pan, the oil wasn't all gone in a second... even if it was, the bearings won't sustain damage immediately at idle
And when I rewind and review my own history with freeway debris over the years - a stray length of 2x4, the drill motor that fell off the truck ahead, a hunk of semi-truck tire - I can imagine paved-road encounters that might have ended the same way had I been driving this car. Granted, the statistical likelihood of something like that ending this way is probably extremely tiny, but for small stuff like this a steel pan is it's own skidplate, to a certain extent.
No I'm on a mission to see how widespread this material choice has become over the years.
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This would greatly concern me above all else. 1 dealer in the ENTIRE state? 429 miles and 345 miles away from the next closest dealerships? That is just nuts
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While that is absolutely true, this particular failure mode looks distinctly plastic. In order to achieve the kind of impact protection necessary for an oil pan the plastic would need to be very thick and very rigid. That is why a huge hole was torn right through the pan when it was frictionally loaded. There was no way for the pan to deform so the material was literally ripped apart. A metal pan boasting the same type of impact protection would be thinner and more ductile. As a result, if the A3's pan was steel or aluminum the whole thing would simply have crumpled upon impact. It would still have needed replacing, but oil wouldn't have leaked out and the car likely could have been driven to the shop under its own power. This is an incredibly rare type of failure mode and in 99.9% of cases a plastic oil pan would probably be perfectly sufficient. However, there is a reason that brake pedal supports are still made of metal when plastic would do. There are simply some things on a car that shouldn't be cheapened.
Old-school stamped steel pans, which are ductile, introduced a different kind of failure mode back in the day. They'd dent, which sounds benign enough, except that they'd typically dent at their lowest-hanging point... which is where the oil pickup lives. The engine would then starve of oil pressure even though the sump never spilt a drop.
Plastic brake (and clutch) arm & support: articles.sae.org/12755/
That van lived most of its life in Boise, so there you go.
Bottom line - if you have damage to any kind of oil pan, of any material, you better replace it.
I have replaced stamped steel pans that never hit anything...because they rusted from the outside in, to the point they were weeping oil. That would never have happened with a plastic pan.
Mostly bad luck...but I must say that to me, that verge on the off side of the stump looks like it drops pretty low...even without the stump there I bet you were within a couple of inches of scraping the belly pan on the edge of the blacktop. I might not have taken a passenger car onto that verge, just for that reason.
Sorry, but imo Audi is junk and I would never touch that make.
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