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It still rides like the AIR suspension. Only issue is if you have the "Kneel Down option" on your truck you will forever get a "Check Suspension" error when you start your truck (Like mine does).
The conversion kit is nothing more than Ford Expedition replacement struts (Coil spring with a shock insert). Nothing more. It's like calling a pencil a "Number 2 graphite writing utensil" and charging +$200 more for it.
Good Luck
My questions are:
Is the compressor the issue with the A/C?
Is there a bad sensor of some sort and what is the part number?
Do I need to replace the dash board or should it be re built?
And are these common issues with these vehicles?
I welcome any and all input..
S. Blackmon
I was the one who started this thread for a couple of years ago. When I had problem with the suspension on my Lincoln Navigator ultimate 2004 . Now it have happened again. And in Sweden where I live its very difficult, since there isn't many of this cars here . This is whats happened , for two years ago it was the compressor, so we changed it. Now the compressor has again been broken. Burned this time. So the front is on the wheels . My garage changed it but still it want lift. And they doesnt know what the problem is. Before the compressor got broken I had a warning sign about I think it stood something like, error on avdtrack or something likely. And then it seemed like the brakes took in when I started the car for maybe 30-40 sekunds, and the car went very slowly . Then it started correctly .I belive that has something with the 4x ? But anyway if someone has an idea why it doesnt lift after changing the compressor , please tell me. Hope very much for many answers since the garage want to try any advice they can get.
Help please
kind regars
Cissi
It's not a big deal just annoying. Anything is better than dealing with air ride problems and repairs, though lol.
Any ideas let me know- I'm gonna post on as many forums as I can and then if i get an answer i will let every forum know because this is a common question for us all.
THX-
RTT
THANKS!!!!
I have a 2004 Lincoln Nav 4X4 with problems involving
the air suspensions for which I have spent a considerable
sum of money for repairs during the past 2 years. Now the
problem is back again.
Is it okay to remove and replace air suspension with regular suspension
without compromising its integrity and smooth ride?
Thank you.
George Asuega
I can't say it does not work, it just didn't work for me.
It is important that you get a mechanic who knows what he is doing as it is a job requiring experience. Hope that this helps.
A couple things you might keep in mind are
1) When new this system worked great so if you find the right information it should again work right. I dont believe that replacing the entire suspension is the right thing.
2) We have a 2000 Navigator and it has worked very well until today. Thats 12 years and 140,000 hard miles with no problems. Love this truck!
I hope your Nav is fixed by now!
Sell it for most you can and take the loss.
I hope you can use my experience and learn from it. Here is my Nevergator Story... Secured a loan for $3600 to replace back two airbags when miles 125000
in aug. of 2009. Then front right bag went down. then front left then...everytime bag goes down , figure on having to replace the $700 air compressor that airs them up, because the the check suspension light does not come on when bag is leaking and your compressor burns out trying to keep it aired up. then. Then front right height sensor , then front left height sensor. .btw: with suspension not working properly had to have 2 sets of tires put on within 28,000miles... the final straw was five months ago..after replacing every single part on suspension within last 2.5 yrs , it went down and I took it to the dealership and recommended an aftermarket different system...I asked the ford dealer and ford Motor company, what im suppose to do with the less than 2yr old system, that I spent $9000 on.? they said its an old vehicle that needs aftermarket system.... wish they had decided to tell me that two years and 20000 miles and 9000.00 earlier.. I went ahead and trusted that Ford parts were not as bad as Ford said they were. MISTAKE. paid an additional 540 dollars for front height sensor , rear height sensor and a relay switch that lasted 2 days...The Navigator has become an an EYESORE , as it sits atop its worn out 10,000 mile tires in my driveway. The Ford Dealership sent me mail reminding me to change oil. LOL ...This would be funny if the vehicle didnt bankrupt me . But it Has. and the Ford dealership won't do anything to help. Ford Motor Company for Sure don't Care and The Bank wants the loan payment every month. Me and my wife each work 55hrs a week and just trying to raise a family, and do the right things in life, but I Dont Think Ford Motor Company cared one bit about problems this Navigator has caused me and my family. Good Luck!!
Please let this story help someone keep from feeling the desperation that I currently feel...
My advice is to not spend another dime on the air suspension and install a coil conversion kit. You can get one installed for about $500-$600. I did and it has been well worth it. The ride is the same and my money is in my pocket.
When the air suspension failed on my '99, I went with my mechanics advice and converted the system to all mechanical including heavy duty shocks and coil springs. The total cost was about $800 and it now handles at least as well as it did and I don't have to be concerned with a poor OEM system which I think should have resulted in recalls. I love the Navigator in spite of the poor mileage. It is a luxury tank!!">
Second time, one year and a half later, driving on an extreme cold day, my suspension dropped again. I waited and waited until it was warmer outside, still my suspension would not raise up. Called the dealership, of course they couldn't tell me what was wrong this time until I brought my truck in. But I had one problem, I couldn't afford it. So I did my research on the Internet, sites like this one, was told to check the fuses. The fuse was ok. Next was told to disconnect the battery cable for about 5 minutes, allow the system to reset itself, then reconnect. Cranked my truck, and immediately the suspension began to raise up, all for free in the luxury of my own garage. I hope this is helpful.
I have converted my daughters Nav and my own to a mechanical system of heavy duty shocks and coil springs and we couldn't be happier. The ride is at least as good as the original air system but without all the hassle of being concerned that the rear of the vehicle might drop on your tires on the Interstate at a high rate of speed. Incidentally, this increases the value of the Nav because anyone buying one will become aware of this ongoing problem with this vehicle so those that have been converted are worth more. The cost for conversion on each of our Navs was under $800. Unfortunately, many who have thrown good money after bad on trying to keep up with the continuing repair of the air system, have given up and sold their truck at a loss. Don't do it. Convert and continue to enjoy all of the good features of what I consider to be the best all around vehicle that I have owned.
It pulls my boat and stores my golfing equipment and fishing gear all at the same time so I am ready to go at any time. The third seat has come in handy fairly often. 13 mpg??? If I get slammed by a Kia....who gets the short end?? On an annual basis, the cost of the mpg may not be all that big a deal considering the comfort and safety and overall features and benefits of this great luxury tank. Good luck and hope that this helps.
Hello y'all. Does anyone know how to completely disable the air suspension message on 2005 Lincoln navigator?
Looks pretty straightforward. I think the kit is about $1000.
does anyone knows when they try to program my suspension for a 2006 navigator there is no communication
I took it to a shop and the mechanic told me it needed new solenoids and that would cost me $900. I purchased the parts and as I was replacing the solenoids I found I need new air springs, so I raced both the air springs and solenoids. The suspension worked great for a week and then took the family and neighbors on a 2 1/2 hr road trip up the coast. The suspension aired up for the 7 passengers but didn't release the air when everybody got out. It was like driving on basketballs.
I pulled everything out when i got home and reinstalled and now the driver side is running lower then the passenger side, both front and rear.
Anybody have any ideas?