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Problems with 99 VW Passat GLS
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Many of the aftermarket chips (Garrett, TAP, Wett, etc) remove the top speed govenor. Maybe this is what you are thinking of.
- recall tracking, do I rely on the dealer or can I track it myself.
-My roudo mags are peeling, dealer told me I hit curbs but three of four are doig this, I would think that they should be able to stand up to a Halifax winter, mostly rain and slush. Have seen Audi's with same mags drive this winter with no problems. Would this be coverd by the warrenty.
-What is the deal with the brakes,lots of rust and staining on the same mags.
Thanks for the help looking forward to the summer,only hope gas prices go down.
cheers!
The Passat's are made in Germany. Little better wages there from what I hear.
Too, if you go with the 1.8T, get a P-Chip, bumps the HP to near the V6's for $6k less! Will not void the warranty either.
The Pueblo VW plant is considered one of the BEST jobs in Mexico, attracting and hiring the best educated, most ambitious workers in that country. The people that work there make a great wage in their market(you cannot compare wages from different countries).
Dont get me wrong, I LOVE passats, they look GREEEEAT, best looking car besides bimmer,IMO. And I bet they drive great too. But just bragging the so-called hassel-free after only a few months of ownership doesn't quite sound right to me.
I dont have a VW, have a 99 Accord(duh), got 15000 miles on the odo, not a single trip to dealer. In my humble opinion, this is the time when you could actually claiming your cars reliability( or maybe wait even longer )
For me? 24k+ trouble free miles.
I have noticed that Consumer reports only reccomends the Passaat 1.8 Turbo--ranks No. 1 in the 4 cyl. category, yet, isn't listed in the six. I have also read that the 6 cyl. is to be avoided in other places.
Anyone know anything about this?
In case you are not aware of this, the best place in Town Hall to find the sort of information you are seeking on the Passat is in either our Sedans or Smart Shoppers Conferences. There are quite a few topics on this vehicle in both of those places.
The easiest way to find them is to key Passat in to the Topic Search feature on the left side of the page.
Come on back and see us after you've made a purchase if you have any maintenance or repair questions. Good luck!
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
GLS 1.8 manual since February '99. Now at 21k miles, with only a few problems.
The rear passenger-side window carrier broke, but was replaced under warranty. They ordered wrong part first visit, broke new part second visit, then finally got it right third try.
At about 20k I noticed the lowest bolt holding driver's door was loose - I noticed it while cleaning the door frames. Dealership re-torqued all door bolts, and found no others to be loose.
Nebio paint is still holding up well - only 1 tiny chip on hood. Too bad they discontinued this color - people still stop me at the mall to compliment the car.
Other than those two items, no problems.
I was not so impressed when I first test-drove Passat. I bought it because of its standard features, a lot of car for the money. But as days go by, the more I drive, the more I like it. Smooth, excellent seats, powerful, and quiet. I tested the brakes in one windy and stormy night. The car stopped straight and short from high speed. Excellent!
But, I wish the VW quality control could be as outstanding as Honda’s. The MPG display in the MFD has been out of order after just 3 days. It went crazy! Sometimes goes up to 140, even 200 miles per gallon! Although it really has no effect to the driving performance, but everything should work as it is supposed to, period. The fabric of the seats is too easy to trap lint; there is no small compartment for tokens and changes; the cup holders are a joke. No big deal, but an amazing car like this should not let details like these escape.
For 5 years, I had ZERO trouble with my ‘95 Accord. Let’s see if this Passat can be as reliable.
MPG = instantanious MPG, average every few yard.
0MPG = averaged since car last started
It sounds like you're using the first setting.
--Mike
I'll second that. You need to go 3 clicks down from the TIME for the AVERAGE MPG("ø") which for me is around 29 over a tank of gas (99 GLS 1.8T, Manual).
If you leave it on the CURRENT MPG it will constantly change form 2 mpg up to 200 mpg. It's fun to coast down a big hill and watch the numbers go to "---" because the computer only goes so high. :-)
btw, this is ALL in the owners manual.
I have had no major problems with my car. The only one I've encountered was partly my fault; I had to replace the tires just recently. Yes, I should have checked the pressure but had been relying on the local VW dealer/mechanic doing what he said he would do as part of my routine maintnenace and oil changes. Like an earlier post, I started noticing an increase in tire noise by the "cupping" sound. My non-VW (regular) mechanic said the tires were very unevenly worn (yes, they were) and that I should replace. Obviously I did and it was like having a new car again. I suspect the tires were never properly inflated to begin with since the tire noise is totally gone. Even when I bought it, there was a lot of noise (like someone else, I thought the upgrade from the noise of my '92 Escort - which, by the way, never suffered a mechanical problem at all in 115,000 miles - was why I was noticing the tires). Again, I should have checked on my own; just never noticed anything odd or obvious and relied on the dealer.
I'm not surprised, given other things that happened with the local VW dealer, to read the posts here. From dirty, greasy finger prints on the roof pillar post and windshield (installing the state inspection sticker) to an oil leak (supposedly from the air dam) after an oil change to a scratch on the front bumper while left at the dealer, I was not pleased.
So, with all these miles and only the tire situation to deal with and now back to my regular mechanic, I have nothing but praise for the car.
There are little annoyances...the passenger front window won't always (1/25 times) go up with the non-stop feature, there is a slight whistle in the driver's window over 70mph, and I have had the cold stumble when starting just twice and I noticed those both when I was 1) low on gas and 2) parked at an incline. I really hate the blank tape stop function because I plug in a portable CD player and, even with a track running, if the sound level is low enough, the blank tape kicks in.
It would be nice to see an in-dash CD player offered as standard or at least an option. For a car so nicely equipped and in this price range, it seems a bit odd. I haven't seen in listed for the 2000s so if I'm wrong, I apologize.
Like others have said, with any car, you could end up with lots of problems. I haven't. Indeed, when I saw this one in the classifieds and the price, I was really hesitant because I figured someone was dumping a lemon. My regular mechanic checked it and said things looked fine, so i took the deep breath, and bought what I really wanted and all my reading and research had said was a Grade A+ automobile.
Best...
We were debating between a Grand Prix GTP and a Taurus SHO/V-8. I was leaning towards the GTP due to a $4000 savings from a Passat, but the Passat kicked tail in every driving situation. The Taurus body styling just didn't do it for me. Interior quality was very unimpressive.
My husband was skeptical at first of a VW (first impressions were "Chick Car.") NOT SO! I can't keep him away from it. We fight over who gets to drive. No tilting at higher speeds on curves and -super impressive- acceleration on the Interstate! I even impressed a GTP owner who happened to be riding with me.
Problems? Brake squeaking. Had to learn to ride the brakes a little harder to warm them up. Also had to have the power steering pump replaced 2 months ago due to leaks and grinding noise and the windshield wiper blades went bad already. Other than that, I'm already looking to replace it when the time comes with a GLX or possibly the AAC Concept V-10 full size VW truck. I'm definately going with leather. Lint trap! Bad JuJu.
I have driven the car for just over a year and have over 20K miles. The only other problem I have had with this car is the right side rear window came off its track.
This wiper problem is getting to me, otherwise I'm a happy Passat owner. Any help?
I suggest you do a searc in the forums at www.vwvortex.com or www.clubb5.com for more in-depth information on the subject.
Since then, my car has run wonderfully. I have put 33.7 K miles on it since purchase 14 months ago. It is very comfortable, and has performed on several long trips of about a thousand miles each very nicely. Pleasure of ownership has returned to a good extent. Off the line there isn’t much going on for the first two seconds or so, but the passing power of this little 4-cyl engine with Tiptronic is amazing. I don’t drive fast very often, but this feature gives me a confidence on the two-laners I frequent that I never had with my Camry 4-cyl standard. I’m not sure exactly what the Tiptronic feature is all about, but on hilly twisting roads I know it enables me to match the RPM with the road profile. That’s not to say it’s a substitute for cubic inches and a five-speed, but it’s fun. I don’t use this feature very often.
I took the car camping and found it had ample space for two adults and a large dog. Managed to pack all camping gear (tent, stove, food, chairs, cameras-whatever) into car without need for roof storage. We even managed to load up the odd space here and there with Finger Lakes region wine on the way back from Watkins Glen. I didn’t use the roof rack on that trip, but VW could have easily made the stock item more useful by adding a couple of removable cross members. I got a very pleasant email informing me that there may be a means to secure my canoe to the car without an expensive after-market product, though I haven’t checked it out yet.
I have not experienced another gas tank overfill. The check engine light came on for a few days, and then went off by itself. I didn’t bother to make an appointment; instead I set a threshold for myself regarding the light. If it comes on and I cannot detect a problem through sight, sound, or smell, I’m going to keep on driving as normal. My tires will need replacement at 40K miles, which is not very good, Tiptronic adventures notwithstanding. It is obvious that my original problem with right rear tire was a Continental defect, though I haven’t bothered to pursue warranty issue with them. Commenting on some earlier postings, I recognized the wind-flow buffet with the moon roof open for what it was. Had experienced it with original bug thirty years earlier. My solution to this is to lower backseat windows about 3” each. I also recognized the creaky emergency brake right away, as I had another car that did this. I only experience the noise when emergency brake is applied-no biggy to me. The tape deck still sounds great, though (and this is common in most cars) the AM section of the radio picks up ignition noise in spite of the rear antenna location. Makes it hard to pick up Howie Carr sometimes, but otherwise a real good radio/tape deck. I don’t think it’s possible to get AM like we did 30-40 years ago-there is so much garbage in the overhead lines these days (including the ever-increasing internet babble).
That’s the word-thanks for listening.
TOMVT
I have just under 26k miles now, trouble-free.
I noticed that the rear anchor of the driver side roof rack has a gap between the roof metal and the plastic cap. The gap measures about 1/8 of an inch. The passenger side one is mounted flush to the metal. The car dealership where we bought the car looked at it and they tried to tighten it. The gap is still there. They said that the screw is already tight and they do not want to overdo it to warp the roof. I am not sure if water will leak under the roof - the dealership said no.
Does anyone else has the same problem? Does it seems like a part manufacturing problem? Should I ask them to order a new roof rack to replace the one I have?
Any comment will be appreciated.
Some seem to think it is mechanical while others blame the tire.
Has anyone else had a problem like this?
If I am not the only one then VW might pay for the repair under waranty.
Please comment if anything is known.
Thanks.
I've seen a utility trailer once which developed a similar situation. The bearing gets red hot, the heat transfers thru the hub to the steel wheel and the tire. The tire suffers a heat failure, you pull over with a blow out, and a fire develops because of all the heat still in the wheel well area. I suppose it could also be caused by a brake that wasn't entirely released.
--Mike
1)When decelerating (ie: at a stop sign), the transmission makes a loud whining noise while downshifting
2)Power steering seems to be on the fritz; in colder weather when the car first starts, there is a scraping sound with any turn of the wheel.
3) when going over bigger bumps, the steering column makes what I perceive to be an unhealthy jolt (far more significant than what I have felt in any other car)
Does anyone know what these problems could be? Additionally we have had other small problems like squeaky brakes, radio stopped working; rubber on the inside of door pops off. Should I trade this car in before the warranty is up? Any advice is appreciated.
I also had a strange noise that happened when I hit particular sized bumps. It was in the front of the car. I took it in and they could never duplicate it. Finally they looked and found that there are spacer blocks put between the frame of the car and suspension for shipment from Germany. Somehow they forgot to take them out during their "prep". That may be what you are experiencing.
Overall I have never had this many problems with any other car. Here is a list of the problems I have had.
Suspension spacers
Dashboard computer (tach, speed, etc.) 2 times
Lock system computer
Steering
Trunk & glovebox lights (not a fuse, wiring let loose)
Harsh Idle (changed oxy sensor at 5k miles)
Rattling Glovebox (3 times and loose again)
Oil Leak somewhere they have not located (it is on the garage floor!)
I really enjoy driving the car when it operates correctly. I get over 30mpg on every tank and happy with the performance. It has the best sound system of any car I have owned, and rides beautifully. I am getting ready to buy another car and just can't bring myself to put up with going to the 4-5 times per year for problems. I just don't feel confident in the quality of the car.
I am hoping they are getting the "bugs" worked out but the Audi A4 has been out for a while and has some of the same problems. They use the same engine and many other components.
My last car was a 626 and I can't recall ever taking it to a dealer for anything other than routine maintenance.
Hope this helps.
body styles to hit the US market."
That kind of says it all. The 1998.5 was more then just a new body style, it was a whole new car. I think everyone would agree that buying early in the first model year is just asking for trouble.
Not to belittle your problems, they do stink to have.
almost 27k trouble free miles on my 99 GLS Turbo!
Trouble did not start too long after that. My 1st oil change, asked them to adjust the lights, was told it was an European styling, now that the warranty is up and I took it to another dealership, I was charged for this alignment.
2. A whistling noise started to come during the cold weather only, went away during the spring, and back again following winter. along with this the engine got noiser and sounded like a pick-up truck. The whistling noise was diagnosed as a power steering pump. The loud engine noise was not diagnosed properly and invloved replacing the alternator, power steering pump pulley and a generator. After this work was done I got a whistling noise every time I turn the steering wheel, I brought it back minutes after the repair, was told it was a air bubble will go away. By the time I drove off it was past the warranty mileage. The noise is still there and they refuse to fix it, saying its a power sterring belt and the warranty is over, even thought it was never there before the repairs. During this work they damaged my crusie control which worked fine before I brought it in. The dealer ship tried to blame me as it was shortly after the warranty period now. After much arguement they agreed was their fault and replaced for free/
3. Shortly after that, airbag warning light - which needed resulted it being replaced. I later found out this is a common problem, but not reported to the customers.
4. A rattle in the front end started around 23K miles, every bump a hollow rattle was coming from the front end It gradually got worse. Initailly they never fixed it. Each oil change at the dealership, they ignored it. It was so loud. ^ months later, and at 42k miles they found it to be the stabliser link and control arm. Which they tried to charge me for, and ened me digging my records out and showing them this was reported to them a long time ago.. They have this on their system and were able to pull the work order up. IF not for my records they were going to charge me for this.
THis car has been a nightmare for me since the day I got it. It handle great, but I end up getting rides to and from the dealer ship every other week from fellow employees and its starting to be a big joke. Really fed-up with this car and the sale people or anyone at the dealership is not eager to help. I am in the process of taking this up with VW America.
I must have just got a lemon, but they way it is being handled by VW is just not right.
I love our Passat. It does have a bit more body roll than I'd prefer at times, but it's a fun little car. I just hope the car continues to be problem free as I rack up more miles.
Oh yes, I'm not sure about other 2000 models, but my Passat came with a 6 disk cd changer for free. It was advertised as a Volkswagon special, but I think it's cause so many people complained about not having an in dash cd player. Have other people with the 2000 models received this extra?
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Don't let these maintenance posts discourage you. The Passat is one hell of a performance automobile. You have 24,000 miles to get the bugs fixed.
A final tip: when shifting the tiptronic, to get a rapid shift, make the shift first, then instantly back off the gas,then get back on it. This is the reverse of what you are used to with a standard shift, but it works great. You'll be able to shift with nearly the speed you would get out of a manual transmission.
Sorry to hear about your VW troubles.
Not that it will necessarily make you feel any better, however, I would suggest that if that is the most trouble you've ever had with one car, then your'e not doing too badly--remember, it could be worse.
As for your car--well, I must agree with the sentiment of others here--I would never, I say NEVER buy the first year of a redesign. WHY? I did this once with a '92 BMW 325i, and learned the hard way (I've mentioned my woes on other threads previously). My troubles outnumbered yours many times over, and was the worst nightmare my entire life.
As for my car, only has about 600 miles as of today, but the initial quality and satisfaction is very high. If everything that I've read about the '98 Passats is true--which I don't doubt those of you who have posted troubles are not telling the truth--I would say that someone somewhere is paying attention.
Live and learn, I suppose.
READERS TAKE NOTE: NEVER, EVER, EVER BUY THE FIRST YEAR OF A MAJOR REDESIGN OF ANY CAR--unless you are very daring, patient, and have plenty of free time (you'll likely be spending lots of time at your local dealer). Just pick up a copy of the Consumer Reports Car Buying Issue, and compare all the repair records of different cars from the first year of their release to the most recent.
My manual says the timing belt change interval is 90k miles. If your's went at 37k then it would seem to be a defective part. First time I've heard of that particular thing happening. I have heard of a few isolated "bad ECU" complaints, but not many.