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2) Seek another mechanic (Get at least 3 estimates before spending $$)
BTW: On a 2002 you should have expected to have some suspension work.... but $2000 is OUTRAGEOUS. I had the suspension replaced on all 4 corners of my 2003 Jetta for under $500. ( http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=36_63&products_id=1148)
Things I have done:
replaced fuel filter
replaced timing belt
replaced MAF
replaced cam position sensor
plugs and wires are only one year old.
The dealer has no idea why it is doing this......
I believe there is a "diagnostic test" that can be done which entails removing the fuel-feed line from engine and sticking in coffee-can. Then jumper the socket for the fuel-pump-relay to force the fuel-pump to run.
As I recall, there is a specification which says how much fuel should be in the can after so many seconds.
If it is bad and gets overheated then it may fail to give the right voltage.
Normally when Jetta coils go they just quit all together.
I found that there were two separate hose pieces that were connected near the radiator (why not ONE single hose?) that had broken apart. Coolant was simply spilling out like a garden hose. Was able to connect them back together, added coolant, but still seeing light come on. No noticable leak anywhere, nothing pooling under car. The reservoir will still be completely empty after 10 minutes of driving. I can hear a rushing/flushing sound under the hood when I turn off the engine, near the radiator-like when a washing machine drains.
Is the car just starving for coolant after not getting any due to the broken hose? How much coolant should it take to properly cool the radiator/engine? I've been told it may be the water pump. Again, with no coolant visibly leaking, where does it go? I'm seeing the same behavior as before, but thought that re-connecting two obviously separated hoses would do the trick. Not so far. I've only driven the car once since connecting the hoses, for about 10 minutes. I don't want to overfill with coolant, but I also don't want the engine to overheat and seize. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Now that it has been 'mixed' consider a tottal R&R of your coolant....Lest, you may get 'gelling' and plugging-up of the cooling system.
The sound you hear under the hood after turning off the engine is BOILING ANTIFREEZE... this a a bad thing. Do not drive until you have this under control.... Lest you risk warping the head and causing serious trouble.
For now, if you cannot obtain G12 antifreeze, get a case of distilled water and carry it in the trunk.
Here is a URL which helps explain G12 antifreeze
17990 idle adaptation limit reached P1582 intermittent problem ecm. 0134 Engine control module defect intermittent, 16684 random missfire, 1687 cylinder #3 missfire, 17988 throttle actuator bank 1 malfunction intermittent, 17708 missfire detected possibly low fuel P1300 intermittent, 16686 cylinder #2 missfire.
My car has a salvage title. it was wrecked and rebuilt the yr it was new. it has an interior leak that comes through the right front wheel well area. the carpet is gone and the electric controls on that side of the car do not work. seat heater, defrost. My temp gauge sits at bottom level but once in awhile, like now, moves to middle 190 point. never hot and does not move high to low and such. I get 28-29 MPG. My car just turned to 140k miles. The shop said it may be a computer issue and I need to replace it first. I am afraid my car will blow up or something. I can not see anything when I visual my engine. It is clean and nothing apparent. I am mechanically inclined but I am now preg so no fixing anything with fluids or fumes. I need any help possible of things I can try and do for myself. I have the Chilton book on it too if that would be of help.
1) That year of VW was *known* to have a bad temperature-sender. Simply replace it with one of the upgraded (green) ones. (less than $20 part) On the 2L engine, I have replaced the temp-sensor in the dark with my daughter holding a flashlight. (it is that simple)
Here is link to new sensor, O-ring and clip for your engine.
Since a faulty temp-sender could cause ALL KINDS of goofy problems and errors, I would absolutely get it replaced before doing anything else.
2) Remove/clean all ground connections. With all those goofy, unrelated errors, the only obvious answer is the ECU is not getting a solid ground. (or +12)
Explanation: If the ECU (Engine Computer) gets bad signal from the engine-temp sensor, then the ECU may make bad 'decisions' about how to control the engine. For example, if the ECU 'thinks' the engine is cold when it is really warmed up, then too much fuel may be injected and the idle-speed will be incorrect.
Oh and GREAT site! I found a new window kit for so much less than the dealer wanted :-)
I have a motor drop issue and not sure how it happened.
Please read this letter.
My Jetta TDI has only 131678.0 miles on it.
This TDI for the past 11 years has had every oil change, sessional tire change & rotation and VW parts replaced by a VW Authorized Service Technician.
I just had it in for service, oil change with filter, new fuel filter. new ball joint on front right side and two days later driving home my engine falls out of the car and drags on the ground!
I phoned my VW dealer and expressed my concern, they said bring it in and we will look at it. Then the manager sends me an email and in his email is written:
"Looking at the photo’s it seems like a motor mount has broken? We have seen this before with TDI’s. The side mount by the timing belt can snap, or the bolt can break which causes the motor to fall ."
Since this happens with the TDI, why didn't I or the other TDI owners receive a
VW ALERT about motor mount failure?
If VW put in a faulty taillight bulb that may cause a potential fire there would have been an alert but not if you have bad motor mounts that may cause your engine to fall out and put you or someone else at risk of being hurt!
When I went to my VW Dealer for a service a few days ago and my VIN number was keyed in, why wasn't there an ALERT notification telling the service department that this TDI needs to have its motor mounts checked?? If it did have an alert my engine would not have fallen to the ground while on the highway which could have caused a serious accident but luckily no accident. Otherwise, I would not be sitting here this morning writing this letter and looking out my living room window at my VW Jetta TDIs motor sitting on the ground.
"Would you like to buy a new VW TDI they are a great looking car but be aware the motor mount may break and the engine may fall to the ground"
steven63
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When the Timing Belt (TB) is replaced on TDI engine, one of the motor-mount bolts MUST be removed to access the belt.
The factory shop manual *SPECIFIES* that the motor-mount bolt MUST BE REPLACED anytime it is removed. This is because it is a TTY (Torque To Yield) bolt which stretches when it is installed. Once stretched, if it is reused, it may snap off. (later down the road at some unexpected time)
There are documented cases where a TDI owner has TB replaced and the mechanic re-uses the motorMount bolt.... at a later time, the bolt snaps and the engine falls out from under the vehicle.
My suggestion to you... get your hands on the original receipt when your TB was replaced. If it does not specify that they REPLACED the motor-mount bolt (by evidence of charging your for new bolt).... then you may have a case against that service-provider which replaced your TB.
Good Morning,
I am thinking of purchasing a new 2012 VW Golf TDI Wagon or a 5-Door in either the Comfortline or Highline.
Has anyone on this forum purchased either of these two VW Golfs? What are your thoughts on these two models?
Thank you.
steven63
Did you ever find the solution to your problem? Cuz my sons Jetta is doing the exact same thing.
Anyway, I was at his home yesterday and had a chance to look at the car. There was no oil on the dipstick when I pulled it out, so he went and found some and put it in. I told him to start the car and oil starts gushing out of the TOP of the filter housing, right where the round part sits on top of the square part. I see that there is a water connection to this square piece, but the oil was definately coming out underneath this round seam. Now is this a faulty gasket issue? I got one from a local parts supplier and it's called the Oil Filter Bracket Gasket. On top of this round piece of the filter housing, there are 2 metric allen screws and I THINK one is further back near where it attaches onto the engine block. The shape of this gasket has me thinking that this belongs where the filter bracket is attached onto the block. If this is true, then I have the wrong part, because the oil is coming out around this rounded part sitting directly on top. Any help any of you can give me on this issue will be deeply appreciated and a very Happy New Year to you all.
From your description, it sounds as if the O-ring between the "heat-exchanger" and the engine has started to leak.
Personally, any vehicle which was ingored/disregarded to the point of allowing the timingbelt to break may be suspect for additional problems stemming from a ignorant owner.
It may have had bad feelings behind it but it also may not have had any malice behind it.
ignorant
[ig-ner-uhnt]
Origin
ig·no·rant
[ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3.
uninformed; unaware.
4.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
Origin:
1325–75; Middle English ignora ( u ) nt < Latin ignōrant- (stem of ignōrāns ), present participle of ignōrāre to ignore; see -ant
To be uninformed of the timing belt change interval can be considered ignorant of facts. see definition number 2
Sorry to get in the middle of your transaction but as a minister I could not let this go.
Blessings.
That ignorant owner was VERY lucky the TB did not snap whilst driving. The engine would have instantly become suitable for a boat-anchor or a doorstop.
Volkswagen engines are so tight that a broken TB can leave some valves open such that the pistons will hit them.... the inside of the engine becomes trashed.
In fact, it is possible that engine DOES have some internal damage... was the head pulled off and the pistons/valves inspected. (or use a scope thru the sparkplug holes.)
The bottom line is that I didn't like the way the engine sounded last Wednesday when I first was asked to look at the car and upon my friend starting it then, saw where the leak was. I wondered aloud if the engine wasn't already damaged because practically all the oil was gone then. It didn't sound any better to me on Saturday after the O ring change. The leak was gone, but the engine sounded terrible. We went for a ride because it was low on gas, got some and he took it on the highway near his home and we went for about a 12 mile ride altogether. Then the oil pressure light came on and a tone went off, but the car WAS running and we didn't see a trail of oil anywhere. We stopped, shut the car down and rechecked the oil level and it was fine. There were no leaks of any kind. We started for his home, and were about a mile away and the oil light and tone came back again. I wasn't having a good feeling. Some hours later his daughter was taking her 2 younger brothers out for a treat at an ice cream store. She never made it. She was about 2 miles from her destination when she claimed she thought the car was on FIRE! She managed to get the car off the highway at an off ramp. Lo and behold, the guy behind her confirmed he saw flames coming from underneath the car and he was a fireman/EMT. She got her brothers out of the car quickly, but there was only a lot of smoke and no fire. A local towing service towed the car to their lot, which is only about 2 miles from my home. I went there today to see the car and expected to find evidence of a fire, but that engine compartment was fine. It was when I opened the door that I smelled what I believe to be the odor of an electrical fire, perhaps something melted, I can't be sure. It seems that at this point, the work her father and I did to fix the leak was totally unrelated to what happened later. I'm just thankful to God that these 3 got out of that car OK.
Not sure what will happen to the car now, it may well be that proverbial boat anchor that you spoke of earlier. Sorry to be so long winded here, but I just wanted to tell you that your suggestion was spot on and I thank you again for that info.
Inspect the heads, and cylinders, and pistons, and valves for damage.
Cranking the engine can cause all those parts to move.
Is an 11 year old car worth a repair to the engine, or a new / used engine?
Only you and the owner can make that determination.
Praying all works well for the owner, the daughter and you.
Also I don't know if your valves are adjustable--if so, that's worth a shot if compression is okay. Also check the spark plugs for damage.
Well you'll have to let it cool down and then diagnose what happened.
Overheating is a complex problem and can have many causes. Some of the more likely ones:
stuck thermostat
coolant leak
head gasket
water pump
clogged radiator
non working cooling fan
collapsed radiator hoses
Alas, on VW engine, the alternator is on the fanbelt and the waterpump is driven by the Timing belt.... so that aint it!
HOWEVER: I *would* like to know how your VW "said it had no coolant" ... does it talk?
here is the problem..
will start and idle. every time. but if you give it any gas at all it shudders and stalls. (in any gear)
I have done minor matneince..
spark, spark plugs, fuel, rotor button, ran codes (brings up #1 and #2 banks... and Purge Valve) checked valve and it seems to be fine.
checked for vacuum leaks. change oil, fuel and made sure the fuel pump works..
IM LOST and we all know we can go broke fixing all the little things but never find the big problem.
Which is it?
Has the original VR6 engine been replaced with an AZG motor?
If what you are telling us is true, then the engine is NOT the original for that car and you could have ALL KINDS of problems with it.
Oh - and I am not so sure the VR6 xmission would mate-up to the AZG motor, so the xmisison may not be original either.
I hope you did not pay very much for that frankenWagen.
In any case, once you validate WHICH engine is in that thing, we may be able to assist with your problems. ... You may wish to also validate that the xmission is the correct one for that engine too.
to test exhaust/cat, disconnect the exhaust close to exhaust manifold and let her rip.