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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,084
    brtgbtbabbbzbBBvv.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    Michaell said:

    brtgbtbabbbzbBBvv.

    Are you okay? B)

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  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    How many will get this one wrong?


  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    Based on that I assume it is an AC Ace

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  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    edited September 2017
    stickguy said:

    Based on that I assume it is an AC Ace

    Good eye and quick!
    Didn't think many would catch that one.

    And I really want one.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,084
    kyfdx said:

    Michaell said:

    brtgbtbabbbzbBBvv.

    Are you okay? B)
    Whoops, I think something leaned against my iPad.

    All good, here.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,148
    That Wolseley Hornet is a convertible and those were done by Crayford Conversions back in the 60's. It looks old enough to be one of the Heinz Hornets, which were a group of identical Hornets converted and given away by Heinz foods as part of a competition.

    I think there were 57 of them (57 varieties like the Heinz slogan) and there are a fair few that still exist. They did a similar competition to give away 57 Austin Metros in the 80s and some of those are about too.

    I think the wheels are probably not original but may be part of the Crayford Heinz package...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    That Woolsley looks suspiciously like a Mini :p

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    Always reminded me of those beetle kits where you made it resemble a 41 ford or a RR.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    edited September 2017
    0patience said:

    How many will get this one wrong?


    Were you thinking folks would say Cobra? I was in the Ace camp all the way. :)

    I could be wrong, but my gut tells me the Cobra mods did not involve keeping the wire knockoff wheels. Also not sure the grilles were ever kept in tact.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,148
    yes - the Wolseley Hornet and the related Riley Imp were both posh Minis with a boot.

    In both cases they revived names used by their respective marques in the thirties on sporty little cars.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    qbrozen said:

    0patience said:

    How many will get this one wrong?


    Were you thinking folks would say Cobra? I was in the Ace camp all the way. :)

    I could be wrong, but my gut tells me the Cobra mods did not involve keeping the wire knockoff wheels. Also not sure the grilles were ever kept in tact.
    Small block Shelby Cobras all came with similar but wider (Dunlop?) wires with the same knock-off hubs you see on the Ace.

    If you really wanna fool someone in to thinking an Ace is a Cobra, show them this one:



    The red car is nearly identical to a Shelby, same windshield, same grille same wheels, it's even got a Ford motor (not aV8) just one small difference (can you spot it?) :



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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    edited September 2017
    Red one doesnt have the sideview mirror the blue one has.

    there is also the badge on the fender.

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,146
    Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
    https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    qbrozen said:

    Red one doesnt have the sideview mirror the blue one has.

    there is also the badge on the fender.

    The badge reads Powered by Ford and indicates a small block Cobra but the red car is also powered by Ford...know what it is?

    1962 small-blocks with the 260CID motor lacked the fender side vents that the later 289CID
    cars had:



    This is a late 289 Cobra ('63/64) with the improved rack and pinion steering and Halibrand racing wheels (the original "mags" since they really used a magnesium/steel alloy). I'm not sure if they're factory options or aftermarket. I suspect the latter.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    I get a strong early 2000s Lancer vibe from the C-pillar, rear lights, and wheels:

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    Kirstie_H said:

    Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
    https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,084
    fintail said:

    I get a strong early 2000s Lancer vibe from the C-pillar, rear lights, and wheels:

    image


    Kirstie_H said:

    Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
    https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

    I agree with @fintail on this....

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,685
    Yep, early 2000s Mitsubishi Lancer.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    Seems to fit. I thought could be same vintage Sentra, but that c pillar window doesn't match up as well as it does to Lancer.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    the wheels on the lancer looked like a perfect match too, compared to the sample picture posted.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I guessed something from Suzuki
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    I can't tell these apart when I see 'em on the street, can you?





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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,084
    andys120 said:

    I can't tell these apart when I see 'em on the street, can you?





    Are you color blind? One is blue and the other is white. :stuck_out_tongue::sunglasses:

    (sorry, couldn't resist on a Friday)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    edited September 2017
    Thanks, Michaell. :@
    Does anyone want to ID the two look alikes(you see them every day, you might even own one.)?

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Sonata and Fusion?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    The window in the C-pillar is enough for an 8 year old to differentiate them from 50 feet, IMO B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Seems to me they got a pretty good ID on the perp himself as he stepped out of the car.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    edited September 2017
    berri said:

    Sonata and Fusion?

    Yup, that's a blue Hyundai Sonata over a white Ford Fusion.
    fintail said:

    The window in the C-pillar is enough for an 8 year old to differentiate them from 50 feet, IMO B)

    Since I'm a lot older than 8 my memory isn't as good as a kid's but you're correct smartass, :D
    the Ford has the much copied "Hofmeister Kink", which a long with the crease on the upper side is a lift from BMW styling which brings up another comparison>







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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    edited September 2017
    I never noticed the crease before, now I can't unsee it, although it probably isn't alone in the line going through door handles. I know the new E has a crease going through the handles too, but it is more subtle.

    The Sonata and Fusion have very similar A-pillars too, with the same DLO fail/black plastic triangle.

    Speaking of Sonata, the prior oversyled model is looking kind of dated already. I think we might be hitting the zenith of styling applied with a dump truck and trowel.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    Well, now that you've mentioned it, the crease on the Sonata doesn't go thru the door handles.

    The crease thru the handles on the Fusion may be another lift from BMW styling. The Five Series introduced it in 1988 with the E34.>


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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,132
    edited September 2017
    A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    I miss when cars were that uncluttered.

    Meanwhile at MB in 1988, this was a new model:

    image

    I can only hope this movement returns.
    andys120 said:


    The crease thru the handles on the Fusion may be another lift from BMW styling. The Five Series introduced it in 1988 with the E34.>


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    Neat pic. I think it might predate 1950, unless that was an especially car-starved area. I see nothing of the "new" 48-50 designs on the road. I suspect that pic is from just after the war.

    I'll pick off some For cars park on the street, to the left of the parade, I see a 41 Ford at the 3rd car from the corner, and what looks like a 42 Olds in front of it. In front of the Olds might be a 46 Plymouth, and a 40 Chevy in front of that, and maybe a 46-47 Olds in front of it. Car parked on the street at far left is a 37 Chevy coupe, with a 40 Chevy behind it. The cars parked at right would require more study. Car at right nearest the camera looks like a 37-38-ish Mopar coupe, with a 39-40 Ford Tudor 3 cars up from it.


    A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Yup, that's a blue Hyundai Sonata over a white Ford Fusion.
    I know my rental cars B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited September 2017

    A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.


    Headlights went into fenders circa 1936--1938. So, if the photo was taken right after WW II, it could be late 40s for sure, because new cars were hard to come by until about 1948. So I'd guess it's earlier than 1950, maybe just pre-war or just post-war.
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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think that is a latter Hudson coupe, maybe 54 or so. I think they may have called them Wasp?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    berri said:

    I think that is a latter Hudson coupe, maybe 54 or so. I think they may have called them Wasp?

    Yes, that is a 1954 Hudson Super Wasp. IIRC '54 was the last year for real Hudsons. After that they were rebadged Nashes.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    edited September 2017
    It's a Ferrari 400 Superamerica or 500 Superfast - I don't recall how to tell them apart. I think the 400 is more common, I will say it is that. Very rare and valuable model, this was top of the line. Very understated and elegant in an early 60s way.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I got this--took me a minute to study it. Very rare Ferrari--only 36 made, and if you saw 3 of them together they'd all be a little different. You're looking at maybe $4 million bucks there.

    and it is......? A 400 Superamerica coupe. No idea of the year but let's throw out 1964.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    edited September 2017
    Yup, Ferrari 400 Superamerica Aerodynamico ca. 1962-'64. Some versions had faired in headlights.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    LOL!

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,148

    A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.
    Headlights went into fenders circa 1936--1938. So, if the photo was taken right after WW II, it could be late 40s for sure, because new cars were hard to come by until about 1948. So I'd guess it's earlier than 1950, maybe just pre-war or just post-war.



    I thought I would give it a go with these more ancient cars and have found one which looks post war - third car back on the left hand side next to the lamp post is an Oldsmobile and I would say 1946-8 judging by the grille.

    However the two in front of it are older - I'm guessing a Ford from 1941 and a Chevrolet from 1937. And behind it a 41 Chevrolet a while coupe which looks too new to be pre-war and then I thought another Oldsmobile (next to the second lamp post) but a wartime one - that heavy double deck grille..
    Behind that just a guess but that car looks like an upright Hudson ?
  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535
    andys120 said:


    I first thought an Eldorado until I saw the suicide doors. I didn't know Cadillac made a sedan with those. I'm stumped as to the exact model.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,233
    58 Eldorado Brougham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,369
    tmart said:

    58 Eldorado Brougham

    Yup, like most '58s the Caddys were a bit overwrought but oddly less so than most. I think the Eldo's designers did a great job of making it look like a two-door although I suspect access to the rear wasn't great.

    All the restraint that went into this design went out the window in 1959 as Caddy came out with the most outrageous design of that (or any) year.


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,092
    There was also an Eldo Brougham in 59, very understated for the time, showing where Caddy would be in a few years:

    image

    I think the Eldo Broughams might have been the first cars with narrow band whitewalls.
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