Real-World Trade-In Values

tjc78 · October 2017

If it was the 3.0 T 400HP version I could see it, but for the 2.0 I’d have a tough time justifying it.

Sandman6472 · October 2017

MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.

The Sandman

explorerx4 · October 2017

This is more about want than anything else.
Never have bought anything other than local, so it kind of scares me.

Michaell · October 2017

sandman_6472 said:
MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.

The Sandman

MKZ is the Fusion equivalent.

MKC = Escape
MKX = Edge

fushigi · October 2017

Horrible naming from Lincoln. I'm not fond of Infiniti naming everything with a Q but at least you can tell the SUVs apart as they're all QX.

explorerx4 · October 2017

Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen.
Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price.
Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote.
Not off to a great start.

roadburner · October 2017

explorerx4 said:
Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen.
Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price.
Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote.
Not off to a great start.

I think I got an "eprice" once out of maybe 20 tries; if a dealer doesn't want to give a quote they shouldn't have that stupid option on their site...

stickguy · October 2017

you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.

explorerx4 · October 2017

I'll probably pursue it a bit longer, but I'm not really interested in playing phone tag.

qbrozen · October 2017

I was satisfied with the truecar price request button on their used car side. Got an email with their reduced price plus their fees. So there were no surprises. Well, OK, the dealer I wound up getting my EX35 from TRIED to add extra fees, but I showed them the email from trucar that showed all fees and stated there would be nothing extra, and they relented.

roadburner · October 2017

stickguy said:
you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.

It's not a question of getting used to it; it's out-and-out deceptive. Look, I know dealers don't want to give a quote online are over the phone because 99% of buyers will use shop the quote all over the place- I'm perfectly okay with a dealer's reluctance. Just don't tell me you are going to give me a price when you have absolutely o intention of doing so.

pensfan83 · October 2017

I had no problem getting quotes from all 3 Acura dealers and my Audi dealer and negotiated entirely over email with all of them. Granted I stated from the beginning I was making a purchase by the end of September so maybe knowing that gave them incentive not to give me the run around

On the other hand when I was helping my brother lease his Fusion earlier in the year I reached out to the Ford dealer my parents have used for decades asking for a quote and they wouldn't give one via email. I told him we'd just go elsewhere and they gave in.

spike13131 · October 2017

I just tell them I'm too busy for phone or to come in. text or email is fine. if they don't like it move on.... going in is never recommended for getting the best deals.

stickguy · October 2017

Depends on the buyer. I believe that is the best way, since you are a real checkbook sitting in front of them.

andres3 · October 2017

stickguy said:
Depends on the buyer. I believe that is the best way, since you are a real checkbook sitting in front of them.

A signed statement, will buy today for $XX,XXX may work too, although it didn't get the VW GM to budge that last $300. They almost lost a $30K out the door deal over $300. Almost! The salesman chipped in $300 of his commission to make the rebate bigger and the deal got done. If you've bought a car from the guy before, a signed statement shouldn't be required nor helpful.

andres3 · October 2017

I've noticed if they believe you are a very serious immediate buyer any supposed "rules" on not giving a quote out are ignored.

explorerx4 · October 2017

Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.

tjc78 · October 2017

I did the last Enclave completely over the phone. It was great walked into the dealer with just some paperwork and signatures to do.

stickguy · October 2017

I did the Sonata that way. a few emails after putting price promise request from Edmunds, a couple phone calls, then just showed up to make sure we liked it and said OK, and signed some papers. easy peasy

explorerx4 · October 2017

I'm not looking at something new, so maybe that makes a difference.

stickguy · October 2017

probably does.

Michaell · October 2017

explorerx4 said:
Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.

Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!

stickguy · October 2017

I think it is called a ferry. Or do they just go to Connecticut?

nyccarguy · October 2017

Michaell said:

Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!

It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it. NIMBY

Michaell · October 2017

nyccarguy said:

Michaell said:

explorerx4 said:
Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!

It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it. NIMBY

Oh yeah - the battle between Robert Moses and Gov. Rockefeller was epic, surrounding that proposal.

The other one that got away was a bridge system from eastern Long Island to MA. I guess the ferries work well on that route, however.

explorerx4 · October 2017

Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder.

Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.

andres3 · October 2017

explorerx4 said:
Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder.
Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.

I'M also very annoyed at quotes that assume I can't read the MSRP on the sticker.

No need for a quote if your price is sticker.

explorerx4 · October 2017

I was looking at a CPO vehicle, not a new one.

explorerx4 · October 2017

I was wrong about the quote I got the website listing was for 27555, their eprice quote was 27554!

steine13 · October 2017

Oh definitely go with the eprice!
That's hilarious.

explorerx4 · October 2017

@steine13,
You're a pretty savvy car buyer, so I'll take your advice.

student22 · October 2017

Looking for a trade in Value and Private Party Value for the following.
73113 2003 Ford Expedition 184,000 miles 5.4 V8 4WD some scratches Black Color XLT Package. Small Paint Peeling in small spot above the Back Glass. Some Scratches, AT Tires with 60-70% Tread Left. Runs OK Small Hole in the Driver seat edge. AC Works runs fine. Power Equipment All Works. Overall good to fair condition. I've read the Edmunds Appraisal. What Private/Trade in values should I expect?

qbrozen · October 2017

Not worth much at all to a dealer. Maybe $500-$750.

How much private party is anybody's guess. I'm sure someone would be willing to wring whatever life and utility is left in it for $2500 or so.

student22 · October 2017

that's about what I expected. Thanks for your reply. Private party it is.

cdb2017 · October 2017

Almost afraid to ask but want to ensure I have reality in mind. The trade: 2016 Mini Cooper Countryman S 4Motion - fully loaded package (winter package for heated seats etc, automatic, rear park sensors, XM, Nav, 19” wheels, etc.), blue exterior, black interior, roof rack, sunroof, 18k miles, maintenance package to 100k. Original list 36k

The target: 2018 Mini Cooper Countryman S E 4 Motion - fully loaded again grey exterior, black interior. All the options including Nav, XM, etc. - List 45,900

What kind of difference am I expecting? Initial offer was 44,900 for new and 19,000 for trade which put’s the difference at 25,900 (not including tax and dealer fees).

I’m in upstate NY as well.

Mr_Shiftright · October 2017

What are the miles on the 2016?

qbrozen · October 2017

4motion is VW nomenclature. Mini still uses ALL4, don't they?

I'm curious: if both are loaded, as you say, why the $10k difference in MSRP? And, more importantly, why trade for the same car?

anyway, they should be at $21k-$21.5k on yours unless something is wrong with it. These are in the mid 22s right now at auction. And, hell, considering it is a MINI dealer and they'd likely CPO it, they should be willing to kick in $22k.

Oh, another thing, truecar shows $1500 off MSRP. AND, do you really want to pay so close to MSRP on something that depreciates so harshly??

roadburner · October 2017

Life is too short to do the same thing twice...

gapperonduty · October 2017

Hi,

Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

Thanks in advance!

qbrozen · October 2017

gapperonduty said:
Hi,

Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

Thanks in advance!

about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.

gapperonduty · October 2017

qbrozen said:

gapperonduty said:
Hi,

Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

Thanks in advance!
about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.

thank you so much for your super quick help - much appreciated!

cdb2017 · October 2017

Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!

corvette · October 2017

qbrozen said:

Hi, Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ. Thanks in advance!
about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.

Wow, I know the SV doesn’t have leather, but that is crazy cheap. The CVT just isn’t that bad! Bland car, yes, but mine never let me down.

qbrozen · October 2017

cdb2017 said:

Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!

I saw, and still see, 18k

doggley · October 2017

Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?

doggley · October 2017

It's the Leather AWD, with towing package, dual sun roofs & nav system

Michaell · October 2017

doggley said:
Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?

doggley said:
It's the Leather AWD, with towing package, dual sun roofs & nav system

A few questions to help our experts ....

1. Color - inside and out?
2. Location
3. AWD or FWD
4. Condition - exterior, interior, tires

woodyww · October 2017

cdb2017 said:
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!

I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?

I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....

Michaell · October 2017

woodyww said:

cdb2017 said:
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?

I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....

I wouldn't say basically - there is a big difference because of the plug-in hybrid technology.

And, the new Countryman is much closer to the BMW X1 than in the past, so the ride and handling are much better.

Mr_Shiftright · October 2017

How much EV range with the plug-in?

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