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.00127 and 57%
.00127 and 55%
$1500 marketing allowance
complimentary 1st payment
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$1500 marketing allowance
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$1500 marketing allowance
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$1500 marketing allowance
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MSRP: 58135
36/12 Lease - Tax/Tags/Fees up front
$3827 due at signing / $670/mo -- minus incentives available at time of delivery
Sales Tax here is 8.625%
One thing that caught me off guard was they said they could lock in the RV & MF now at 60% / and 0.00107 -- they list the bank as "VW CREDIT LEASING LTD". I thought Audi only utilized RV/MF that were current at time of delivery?
Any thoughts?
Thanks..
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
complimentary 1st payment
$1500 marketing allowance
If $56,800 was the adjusted CAP cost, I get $617/mo.+tax
That's a $2800 spread... Find out what else is in the CAP cost.
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Complimentary first payment
$1500 marketing allowance
$750 loyalty
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Do you have December MF, Residual, and Incentives for S4 P+/ 12K / 36 Months in upstate NY?
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Eric
$1500 marketing allowance
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The marketing allowance is an Audi-to-dealer incentive.
Use your knowledge of it to help set your price target.
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Confirm with the dealer that those incentives are not part of the discounted price he's given you --- I suspect they may be.
What is the adjusted cap cost, if the taxes and fees are rolled in?
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I *think* the dealer is right, but wanted to be certain.. Based on the November numbers of 36/12, 59% RV/0.00107 MF -- these are what my calculations are showing with a vehicle MSRP of 58,135 and sell price of 54,647:
These are fees and taxes upfront, no additional CCR.. NY, 8.625% sales tax:
Without AC (Sell 54,647): $3,787.01 at signing, $660.38/mo
With AC (Based on $879, added only to sell price - $55,526, 60% RV): $3,827.37 at signing, $670.21
The reason I believe the dealer is right is because when I add it also to MSRP, the cost is actually less than without AC:
Without AC (MSRP 58,135 + $879: 59,014, sell price $55,526, 60% RV): $3,769.54 at signing, $656.12/mo
The contract order shows $3,827.37 at signing, $670.21/mo
As a reminder -- this is for a car currently on order, slated for early March delivery - so current incentives are not applied - but they did say they could lock in RV and MF now.
Thanks..
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$1000 marketing allowance
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im hoping to get some advice on a 2018 s4 lease.
15k miles/36 months
maine state taxes paid up front. 5.5% $2,091.00
MSRP: $60,410.00
$688.00 per month
does it it look like they gave a discount? Possibly the marketing allowance?
if I’m missing anything please let me know. Thank you all for your advice.
Shaun
What is the amount due at signing, other than the taxes?
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.00107 MF and 57% residual
$1000 marketing allowance
complimentary 1st payment
To get that payment, the adjusted CAP cost would be about $55,700.
Considering DMV fees and $895 acquisition fee, it looks like you received a substantial discount.
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either way, it seems like a really great deal or they are messing with me.
Thank you for the Info. Would you suggest just taking this deal because January might not be so favorable?
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I get $695/mo using the MSRP and gross cap cost.
What was added to the subtotal to get the gross cap cost?
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Take the selling price, deduct the $1443 rebate, add the $343.50 in fees, and the number is higher than the selling price? All of these numbers seem to be going the wrong way.
Ask them for numbers that add up.
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Take the selling price, deduct the $1443 rebate, add the $343.50 in fees, and the number is higher than the selling price? All of these numbers seem to be going the wrong way.
Ask them for numbers that add up.
This is the salesman's response when asked how the subtotal of gross cap cost was reached: "The Gross Cap cost is the selling price, $51,800 plus the acquisition fee, $895 plus Sales tax, $1984.96. That totals $54,649.96. That's a few dollars different from the gross cap cost Jeff sent you. We use 2 different computer systems here and they aren't synched."
Take the selling price, deduct the $1443 rebate, add the $343.50 in fees, and the number is higher than the selling price? All of these numbers seem to be going the wrong way.
Ask them for numbers that add up.
This is the salesman's response when asked how the subtotal of gross cap cost was reached: "The Gross Cap cost is the selling price, $51,800 plus the acquisition fee, $895 plus Sales tax, $1984.96. That totals $54,649.96. That's a few dollars different from the gross cap cost Jeff sent you. We use 2 different computer systems here and they aren't synched."
Wow... your "quote" left out a lot of numbers, huh?
I guess the "subtotal" is with $895 acq.fee added, and the "gross cap" is with tax.
So.. the $1443 rebate? Is that $750 loyalty plus complimentary 1st payment?
Looks like the $1000 upfront covers first payment and fees (well, not quite).
On the plus side, given the gross cap, the payment looks right.... but, wait.. what about the rebate? That doesn't seem to be subtracted from anything?
So, maybe they've deducted the rebate, marked up the money factor? We just don't know.
Two numbers you need:
1) Adjusted CAP cost. This is the same as "amount financed" on a loan. If it's the same as the Gross CAP, then the rebate hasn't been deducted anywhere.
2) Money factor. .00127 is the base. What number are they using?
And, one more thing:
There is a $1500 incentive on this vehicle (Audi to dealer). 5% off MSRP isn't very good, when that's taken into account.
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Wow... your "quote" left out a lot of numbers, huh?
I guess the "subtotal" is with $895 acq.fee added, and the "gross cap" is with tax.
So.. the $1443 rebate? Is that $750 loyalty plus complimentary 1st payment?
Looks like the $1000 upfront covers first payment and fees (well, not quite).
On the plus side, given the gross cap, the payment looks right.... but, wait.. what about the rebate? That doesn't seem to be subtracted from anything?
So, maybe they've deducted the rebate, marked up the money factor? We just don't know.
Two numbers you need:
1) Adjusted CAP cost. This is the same as "amount financed" on a loan. If it's the same as the Gross CAP, then the rebate hasn't been deducted anywhere.
2) Money factor. .00127 is the base. What number are they using?
And, one more thing:
There is a $1500 incentive on this vehicle (Audi to dealer). 5% off MSRP isn't very good, when that's taken into account.
I will ask for the adjusted CAP cost.
I was firm (I have read your guys forum on be firm but do not mention the actual number) when I met with the salesperson on Friday and told them I know I have tier 1 credit and will qualify for the base money factor. I mentioned I NEEDED the base money factor several times. Looks like I will need to ask to see the numbers as to what the actual money factor is.
I stated to the salesman that I was aware of a 1500 marketing allowance/incentive that was Audi to dealer which the salesman replied he wasn't aware of. I used this forum before I met with the salesman so I was trying to use my knowledge of December numbers and incentives to my advantage.
I also received about 6% off of MSRP on my current Audi lease (2015 A3) which is from the same dealership. I stated I was expecting a similar percentage off on the S4 but was told that since its a S model they won't be able to do 6%.
So it looks like I need: 1. Adjusted CAP cost. 2. To see money factor numbers. 3. Inquire about how the rebate is being applied. 4. Ask why the $1500 Audi to dealer is not being applied.
Thanks again for all you guys do. It is appreciated!
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2018 S4 premium Plus. Daytona Gray.
MSRP: $60,870
36 months/15k miles
True $0 down. $722 per month.
Maine taxes in the payment.
I told them for $700 I’ll be on my way right now.
I also pay DMV excise tax of about $1,450 separately when they deliver the car.
12k miles/$715
Dealers are are discounting the car more than I have ever seen in the past...I may have my first Audi real soon.
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Looks like a solid deal.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP $61,780
doc fee $395
fees $135
upfront taxes $61.12
cap cost reduction $0
rebates $716.19
total out of pocket $0
15k miles/36 months $716.19
i did add Audi Care so my payment is now $722
MSRP $61,780
doc fee $395
fees $135
upfront taxes $61.12
cap cost reduction $0
rebates $716.19
total out of pocket $0
15k miles/36 months $716.19
i did add Audi Care so my payment is now $722
Congrats!
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