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Okay, so the tax of 7% is calculated by the cap cost, not the sale price? If residual is 54%, the taxes on my end are $1,702.38 total, $47.29 monthly. (52868.91 x .46 = 24319.70 x .07 = 1702.38 / 36 = 47.29)
They're saying acquisition fee is $1095, but I know it's supposed to be $795. Should I ask for a $300 discount on cap cost?
If everything is included on the cap cost, INCLUDING tax, here are my calculations...
52868.91 x .46 = 24319.70 x 1.02688 (base MF) = 24973.41 / 36 = $693.71
I still can't make sense of their offer, and they're not being especially transparent with the details of this deal.
This is my first luxury car lease (first lease ever, actually) and I need to know the calculations before I'm comfortable enough to sign anything.
Basically, does this look like a good deal to you? I know the base MF is .00112, but with these calculations it looks like they might be marking it up. They claim to be using base MF, but I have yet to see anything in writing about MF. That's the one thing they're conveniently leaving out of written correspondence.
Maybe I'll go to another dealership...
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Is $770 a good price with these figures then?
May I have please have April Numbers for NJ 07701?
GLC 300 4Matic 2018
Any incentives?
36M/15k
36M/12k
.00107 and 54% / 56%
But on April 10 you responded with different residual value and MF for NJ uryasoft said:
Hello Experts
I am in the market again to lease 2018 GLC 300 4MATIC Coupe (and considering few other SUVs as well). I am in Central NJ. Please give me the MF and residual for:
36M/12K
36M/15 K
what is the sweet spot for this car?
thanks,
Andy.
.00073 MF and 52%/50% residual
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Selling Price: $39,036.25
MF: 0.00132 (Base + 0.0002)
DMV Fees: $620
Acq Fee: $795
36/10 lease on a GLC 300 RWD in SoCal.
With just the DMV fees + Acq Fees due, I get $485/month (tax incl)
And with 10 MSD, I get $435/month (tax incl).
Can someone confirm my numbers? Seems like a good deal? Thank you.
If the tax rate is around 9%, then the numbers are in the ballpark
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It's a nice return on your investment.
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Sweet spot on a lease? Looking to do at least 36 months. But, if something better is better, great.
15k miles. Money factor, RV.
Thank you!
RWD or 4Matic?
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Likely a FWD, but there are a few AWD options too.
RWD: .00112 MF
AWD: .00107 MF
GLCs don't come in FWD.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP: $45,595
Price: $41,770
Cap Cost: $42,098.41
Residual: $25,901.35 (56.8%)
MF: .00201
Sales tax (estimate): $2,613.47 (seems high, based on sales price, not lease it seems)
Tire/Battery: $8.50
Dealer Service Fee: $799 (?!?)
Tag/Registration fees(estimate): $624
Cash Due 36 MONTHS/15K MILES
3000 $628
5000 $565
7000 $503
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The money factor difference between what is out there (0.00112) and what they are quoting (0.00201) is about a $60/month difference. Correct?
Also, why would their RV be higher? 57 instead of 54?
Yes, that is a big markup to the MF.
Refresh me on the numbers; too many posts to look back.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Price: $41,770
Cap Cost: $42,098.41
Residual: $25,901.35 (56.8%)
MF: .00201
Sales tax (estimate): $2,613.47 (seems high, based on sales price, not lease it seems)
Tire/Battery: $8.50
Dealer Service Fee: $799 (?!?)
Tag/Registration fees(estimate): $624
Cash Due 36 MONTHS/15K MILES
3000 $628
5000 $565
7000 $503
They quoted the residual at 57 even at 15k miles. Not 10k.
The money factor difference between what is out there (0.00112) and what they are quoting (0.00201) is about a $60/month difference. Correct?
Also, why would their RV be higher? 57 instead of 54?
Residual - 10K vs 15K is 3% difference.
Yes, that is a big markup to the MF.
Refresh me on the numbers; too many posts to look back.
MSRP: $45,595
Price: $41,770
Cap Cost: $42,098.41
Residual: $25,901.35 (56.8%)
MF: .00201
Sales tax (estimate): $2,613.47 (seems high, based on sales price, not lease it seems)
Tire/Battery: $8.50
Dealer Service Fee: $799 (?!?)
Tag/Registration fees(estimate): $624
Cash Due 36 MONTHS/15K MILES
3000 $628
5000 $565
7000 $503
They quoted the residual at 57 even at 15k miles. Not 10k.
Using the numbers and prices provided, I get $628/mo with 7% tax added to the monthly payment.
Ignore the tax amount; that's likely for a purchase.
Sadly, the $799 doc fee is typical for Florida.
What else is part of the $3000?
$628 first payment
$799 dealer doc fee
$795 acquisition fee (often marked up to $1095)
That's $2222 (or $2522); is the rest going to cap reduction or to DMV costs?
And yes, the MF markup is adding over $60/mo to the payment.
I wouldn't sign this deal.
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https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42288/mercedes-benz/glc-class/2017-mercedes-benz-glc-class-lease-questions#latest
Thanks!
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What term/mileage?
Numbers change monthly, so not sure which posts you reading.
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Tampa, FL
2018 GLC 300 RWD
MSRP = 48,185
Sale Price = 44,000
Residual = 26,019
Money Factor = .00112
36 months, 15k miles
Government fees = 417.50
Taxes = 1580.32
Doc fee = 799.00
Acquisition fee = 795.00
Down payment/initial payment = 5000
Monthly including taxes = $551.67
Assume the doc fee is the Florida dealer mark up. Money factor seems right. Residual is at 54%. Taxes seem like the amount on the lease over the 36 month term.
Your thoughts on this deal, the numbers? Thank you!!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Black GLC 300 4 matic with premium 1 package. 6814 miles
MSRP on the car is $46,995.
This discount is $5100 and USAA Rebate is $2500. MB Financial Services Acquisition fee is $1095
DOC fee is $598
Sales tax $116.42
new tag is $10
residual is 56% off the MSRP
$2000 total drive off amount
$503 monthly payment
.00107 MF and 56% residual (before mileage reduction)
Your acquisition fee is marked up from $795.
Do you have the adjusted CAP cost?
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Adjusted CAP cost is $39,835.88. 36/12 lease. Thanks!
I get $480/mo.+tax with those numbers... so, the calculations look good.
Whether that's a good price for a loaner with that many miles, I couldn't tell you. But, the rebate helps.
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Thanks a lot for all your help so far. You have saved me a lot of money so far. The dealer is currently running my credit and will come back with a quote soon. So far I have negotiated the following for the GLC 300 RWD
Subtotal: 41,270
Destination and delivery: 995
Total: 42,265
15% Discount: $ 35925.25
Plus following fees
- 95.77 inventory tax
- 150 documentary fee
- 130 license fee
- 20 bridge and road fee
- 7 state inspection
- 33 title
- 795 acquisition fee
I guess I need to add 6.25% tax for Texas
Somehow I have a feeling that these fees are marked up, in particular the acquisition fee. Am I right?
The money factor for the leasing I negotiated is .00112 and RV 56% for 12k. But I might take the 15k depending on what the residual is.
Do above numbers make sense? Can you please give me the residual for 15k (36 month lease). They have not computed the monthly payments yet. I will obviously cross-check them.
Thanks a lot for your help. Much appreciated.
Residuals aren't negotiable. 15K/yr is 2% lower than 12K/yr.
$795 is the base acquisition fee
The other fees look typical/normal
Texas taxes the full selling price, even on a lease.
In this case: ($35925.25 + $795) X 6.25% = $2295.
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I don't know if the pre-paid maintenance cost can be negotiated.
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The new one is this:
MSRP: $48,435
Sales price: $43,591
RV: $26,154
MF: quoting .00112
Acquistion fee: quoting $795
36 months/15k
Drive off: $5k +350 (tax/tag) = $5350
Monthly: $462.98 + Tax (7%) = $496 monthly payment
How does this look?
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First month payment ($496), registration/doc fee ($530), tax on cap cost reduction/fees ($308) and the rest (roughly $4000) going towards a down payment .
Gets to $462.98 + tax (7%) = $496/month
MSRP: $48,435
Sales price: $43,591
RV: $26,154
MF: quoting .00112
Acquistion fee: quoting $795
36 months/15k
Drive off: $5350
Monthly: $462.98 + Tax (7%) = $496 monthly payment
But, don't see the $795 acquisition fee listed, so if that comes out of the upfront money, then the payment is pretty close.
The number you want: Adjusted CAP cost.
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Thanks for all the great info. I am in southern California and I got the quote for the 2018 GLC 300 RWD, which has $42,985 MSRP. I got 12% off MSRP ($37736) and the residual value is 24501.45 (57%) and the MF is 0.0016. Do they look right?
I still get very high monthly payment ($616), I am doing $0 down payment, Did I miss something? Other fees are:
Tax $2930.76
Doc Fee $80
Electronic Filing Fee: $25
FlatAddCountyFee: $7
Reg: $479
Smog Fee: $20
Tire Fee: $8
BR
CA taxes the monthly payment on a lease, so you can ignore the tax amount
I don't see any reference to the acquisition fee ($795, often marked up to $1095)
The GLC is pretty expensive to lease.
$0 down payment, or $0 due at signing? They aren't the same thing.
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Thanks a lot for your quick reply. I checked again, it was $0 due at signing, all the cost/fee are averaged across 36 monthly payments, sorry for the confusion. I was expecting the monthly payment should be around $500 with a reasonable deal. but maybe I am too optimistic.
So for the Base MF 0.00112 you referred above, is it before applying the security deposit or after applying the maximum amount of deposit? In my case, the asked for $6000 = 10 x $600 to reach the maximum security deposit. The 0.0016 MF above in the quote is actually after apply the $6000 security deposit.
BR
You want .00112 before applying the MSDs.
Tell them you won't sign a deal unless you get the base MF
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Mercedes GLC 300W4
California purchase in San Francisco Mercedes
MSRP: $46395
Sales price: $39,895
RV: $26,445
MF: quoting .00107
36 months/10k
Advances Payments/ Upfront Charges= $1174 This is what we are paying out the door
Monthly: $476.98 + Tax 40 dollars (11%) = $516 monthly payment
What do you guys think?
With the prices given, I get $445/mo plus tax.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost, and the full breakdown of how they got to that number from the selling price.
What does the $1174 cover?
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