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Regarding leasing a 3 series vs an Accord, here is my personal feedback. First of all, the Beamer is a much smaller car for me compared to the Accord. If you are just looking at monthly payment, you might be able to lease a 320i or 330i for cheap right now, but then you have to worry about insurance costs and premium gas. A new 2019 3 series is coming out soon, so 2018 models might start to get discounted soon.
Once Honda starts offering lease incentives, lease deals on the Accord will get better. You get more bang for your money with the Accord, IMO. For example the Touring model (with an MSRP of about $36.7k) can be had for about $32k. You get front and rear heated seats, ventilated front seats, Head Up Display, real leather seats, navigation with free 5 year map updates, android auto and apple car play at no charge, pre collision warning, blind spot warning and other safety features at no charge, a 440 watt sound system (not Harman Kardon), body colored parking sensors and other options that would cost thousands in a BMW. If you are just looking to drive a Beamer then go for it, but that's not me.
Hope this helps.
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The msrp of the Accord 2.0 Touring is $36,700. With 5k down plus a c. 4k discount from the msrp, even with TTL you are looking at financing c. $30k at 2.9% over 60 months. That gives you a monthly payment on the Accord Touring of c. $538, which is a bit less than leasing the comparable BMW.
Model Year: 2018
Date Purchased (Month, Day, Year): Not Purchased yet, but got a bill of sale: 5/18/2018
1.5T or 2.0T engine: 1.5
Trim (i.e. LX, Sport, EX, EX-L, Touring, Hybrid, VP.... etc.): EX-L
Automatic, CVT, or Manual transmission: CVT
Sale Price $25,870.00
Destination $890.00
Processing $300.00
Taxes $1,623.60 (6%)
Tag & Title $279.00
TOTAL $28,962.60
EX (10)
EX-L (28)
EX-L 2.0T (35)
Hybrid (1)
Hybrid EX (1)
Hybrid EX-L (2)
Hybrid Touring (6)
LX (28)
Sport (6)
Sport 2.0T (7)
Touring (13)
Touring 2.0T (5)
Why wait until the last two days of the month?
Why wait until the last two days of the month?
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Never mention a Trade in before getting dealers best & final price. When your trading in a vehicle its always best to work your 2 or 3 best deals then drive vehicle to dealers to see who gives you fair to good resale.
Buying a vehicle at the very end of a month helps you make best possible deal with dealers still trying to make there monthly sales #'s / Incentives. I have always found when buying any new vehicle, dealer pricing & there slimy tactic's are in full force the 1st, 3 weeks of any month.
when I was younger and helping many friends & folks here on Edmunds get pricing you learn dealers will not budge off a number early in the month, to many dealer lies & games. Just avoid the nonsense trust me.
My secret to the easiest transaction with minimal dealer BS is.... Online, or Phone with all Internet mgrs. Buying this way you need to have done your homework , know pricing and be prepared to buy that moment. Most buyers here in Edmunds will have to go into the dealership. Remember Same buying tips apply....... Use them they work!
Things you must do prior to buying any vehicle & before you start negotiating price.
1- Do all your homework prior to the first (3) weeks of any month or Ending Sales Quarter. (Mar, June, Sept, Dec. )
2- When you buy new vehicle always target the end of the month.
Below is what you should be doing the 1st , 3 weeks. Always make a spread sheet with as many dealers your willing to travel to.
Test drives , Dealer info ( Int / mgr name & #'s , doc fee charge , etc )... List of Targeted dealers , Ins info , Finance & lease rates / info, bad credit secure a outside loan make dealer beat. Know the exact model and options you want.
Now your ready to negotiate a price and your ready to buy vehicle . When dealers know you will buy vehicle Today for X price you will either make deal or get dealers best price.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Your sale price is about $1540 below invoice, before doc fees. Not bad at all. With doc fees, that goes down to about $1240 below invoice.
Did you get any other offers from other dealers? If not, I would go for this deal.
Good luck.
Selling Price 36,690.00
Splash Guards 249.00
Wheel Locks 149.00
Cargo Tray 249.00
Nitrogen 99.00
Discount 5,601.25
Total Purchase 31,834.75 thoughts?
this is the month you try for a knock out deal, build on your best price in philly or PA... Then
On may 30th or 31st make phone calls ONLY to your best priced NJ dealers SPEAK only to the Int/ mgrs. leave a message & number if there not avail at that moment. Tell each Mgr. I"M buying TODAY MEET or Beat for the sale.... its YES or No-... Or- a counter offer .
Tell each NJ dealer you will buy vehicle today (hold with a credit card) if they match or beat your price .I'd Knock off another $500 off your best out of state deal... NJ doc's average $300 /399
Call these dealers on Wed or Thurs. 30th ,31st. Monthly sales incentive may pay dividends this month. Its hit or miss depending on there Accord stock on lots.
Auto-Sport Honda ...Bridgewater NJ....
Madison & Joyce............ are maybe's
Garden State , Route 23, Phillipsburg Easton,
Honda of Tenafly, Clinton .. last 5 dealerships are always on my last days of the month call or email ?
Good luck...@erseydevil101 hope you and @john4545 waiting game pays off this month
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
@brian125 is right though. Some dealers include all incentives when listing the sale price. Sometimes when pricing looks/sounds too good, I always ask for clarification.
One dealer mentioned that their memorial day sale was starting exactly today but never gave me a price quote, kinda weird cause I thought the event was on going already?
Is the Accord Touring 2.0 the car that most are going for?
Selling Price 36,690.00
Splash Guards 249.00
Wheel Locks 149.00
Cargo Tray 249.00
Nitrogen 99.00
Discount 5,601.25
Total Purchase 31,834.75
Taxable Fees (Estimated) 98.00
Trade Allowance
Trade Difference
Dealer Service Charge 599.00
GATAVT 2,308.25
Non Tax Fees Estimated 46.00
Net Price 34,886.00
The EPA rating on the 1.5T is 33 for city/hwy combined, with an estimated annual fuel cost of c.$1300.
And so there's a likely difference of c. $350 a year. You'll also likely pay more for the insurance on the 2.0.
The EPA rating on the Accord Hybrid is 47 for city/hwy combined, with an estimated annual fuel cost of c. $900.
1. Tell the dealer you will buy today (tomorrow) for $30.8k.
2. As part of the deal, they should throw in the wheel locks, remove the nitrogen charge and match collegehilshonda.com's pricing for the other accessories.
3. You will finance with them at the best rate (ONLY IF YOU HAVE EXCELLENT CREDIT).
Simple. If you can get it at that price, then it will tell me that this car is a great value.
Good luck. Let me know what happens.
As for the nitrogen charge, they should either remove it or not charge you for it. Hope this clarifies things. Are you planning to buy this weekend? If yes, tell the dealer you will fill out a credit application before coming into dealership to sign paperwork. Want this transaction to be smooth for you.
I have been thinking of buying this car, however, I have not been impressed with pricing. Given the lack of any Flex cash, buying the Touring 2.0T was not appealing. Finance rates have not been the best. That could change.
Anyway, let us know if the dealer agrees to these terms.
Why wait until the last two days of the month?
Some dealers might be trying to meet their end of month goals and hence might be more open to work with you on a deal.
If you’re sure you’re going to trade-in then it doesn’t matter when you disclose that fact to the dealer. In the end they are going to give you the same overall deal either way.
Why wait until the last two days of the month?
Some dealers might be trying to meet their end of month goals and hence might be more open to work with you on a deal.
Maybe, maybe not. You have no way of knowing. Maybe they exceeded their goals for the month and aren’t too motivated, plus there’s a good chance they already used up all their allotted flex cash for the month.
Anyway. I am just trying to offer advice here. Take it or leave it for others to read.
$1200 to 1800 below invoice seems to be what most are getting after doc fees are calculated into the deal. Your state taxes, and dmv fee's are separated from the deal .
Around Mid February (Presidents Day Weekend), Honda offered $1000 flex cash for leasing or financing. Towards the end of February the flex cash was for leasing, financing or outright purchasing. The flex cash was offered until 3/31/18 and in April instead of flex cash they offered lower interest/lease rates. Finance interest rates went from about 4.2% standard to 1.9% for 36 months and 2.9% for 48-60 months, not sure what the lease MF changed to.
I'm hopeful they'll bring back some flex cash for Memorial Day weekend, but that's just hopeful nothing to go on. The promotional interest rates are good through July 5th I believe so it may not be a while until they change their incentives again.
$1200 to 1800 below invoice seems to be what most are getting after doc fees are calculated into the deal. Your state taxes, and dmv fee's are separated from the deal .
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@sbs0 - To add to what has already been said. Here is my $0.02. A good deal is pricing below invoice for the model you are looking to purchase. A great deal is the best pricing below invoice you are able to negotiate in your area. For example, Mark who lives in California was able to negotiate a price that is $2k below invoice on a 2.0 T Touring. His doc fees are only $80. His effective deal is $1920 below invoice with doc fees. Mike lives in MA. He was also able to negotiate a price of $2k below invoice, but his dealer doc fees are $400. Hence, his effective deal is about $1600 below invoice with doc fees. Both Mark and Mike are happy with their deals since this was the best pricing in their area.
As long as you have done research, are aware of pricing and any incentives applicable to the model you are looking to buy, you will be able to negotiate a good deal on a car. Just remember not to get emotional during the purchase process, and be ready to walk away from a bad deal.
Good luck.
Thank you in Advance.
Ranging from $3,050 to $3,200
Anyway to negotiate this?
I also like some other users before have a dealer trying to push accessories, the usual it seems... Mudguards, wheel locks, cargo tray.
It's good to know I'm not the only one getting that 4K off, yet taxes seem to neglect some of that 4K since they're high off the roof.
Try the Norm Reeves chain of dealers?
Most in California are $80. Thoughts?
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
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Walker Honda had some of the best pricing in the country on Accord warranties 2 years ago if anyone is interested .
Walker Honda was offering a 5yr/75k for ...........$595.
I know a few more dealerships that offer very good warranties if anyone is interested ? I personally never buy one. I think it defeats the purpose of................... The Car............. that sells itself ! ( Jackie Mason )
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2018 Honda Accord Sedan
Sport CVT
VIN: 1HGCV1F37JA150819
MSRP $26,670
Guaranteed Savings - $3,555
Dealer Fees & Accessories + $80
Total Before Tax $23,195
The dealer is "Culver City Honda" I'm still in the market and looking for one so I don't have any recommendation. The best quote from truecar I have gotten is from "Honda Cars of Corona" Hope that helps.
the best quote for me has been 22500 for accord sport which is about 4200 off