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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    When our youngest was in HS we switched from an odyssey to the RDX. Wife likes the view, and I’ll always have some sort of box for hauling bulky stuff. So will stay with a compact to midsize CUV or wagon like a V60.

    My car, could be anything, like still a sedan.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    Yeah, the Venza is more equivalent to the Ford Edge. Full on CUV.
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    fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    My wife is torn. She's come around to CUVs as I've had one since '09. The ride height, easier entry/exit, AWD for winter, and cargo capacity (and easy loading) are appealing. Neither of us drives a lot of miles; she just rolled 39K after 7 years, so outstanding fuel economy is not a primary feature we need.

    She also prefers small cars and to her, her '12 Elantra is almost too big for her to comfortably drive. She's only driven my QX60 a couple of times on the highway. Something the size of the Tucson might work but she'd prob go more for the Kona. Having had good experiences with Hyundai she's likely to stay with them.
    2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    edited October 2018
    I was going to say, if she likes the Elantra, Kona could be perfect.

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    In the parking lot at work...
    White Corolla, Burgundy Odyssey, Black Tacoma. Pretty Average stuff.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    Just have to add 2 more Crosstours yesterday .. one black, one white and my neighbor's is silver so not the same one multiple times.

    Stickguy, yes on the Kona but Ioniq is also a possibility if she decides to stay on the sedan side of things. She's never been a big fan of hatchbacks but the crappy trunk openings of most cars nowadays is, I think, influencing her. Sure, the groceries and whatnot physically fit in the trunk but the openings and necessary bending over (she bends over a lot for her job & often has a sore back) are detractors.
    2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    I about 20 minutes, spotted 4 Tesla's. 3S's and a gray 3 with really ugly wheels.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    The base wheels on a 3 are awkward, resembling hubcaps. They scream "cheap [non-permissible content removed]" in a way, good strategy to sell the higher model. Basic S and X wheels are also easy to see, they look small.
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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    Saw it yesterday and wasn't sure what it was. Saw it again today, a white Honda Clarity.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,606
    edited October 2018
    The base wheels include the aero covers, which apparently add approx 5% more range to the car:

    If you don't like them, they can be taken off and reveal the stock wheels underneath:

    I like that they give you the option.

    23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    @tifighter,
    Yes those are the wheels I saw.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    Do they overheat your brakes 5% faster too?
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Kind of like the Prius, has actual wheels under the dorky covers. 5% seems like a strong claim, but given that all the guts are in the lower half, maybe.

    Saw an RS3, not common.
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    laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,733
    Two Tesla 3s appeared at the same time at work, red and blue. The four charging stations at work are now regularly booked, including a BMW X5 plugin.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    Things might get ugly when #5 shows up...
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    laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,733
    Texas, I thought about that. I've read of the electric hierarchy, the disdain full BEV folks have for plugins, who overstay their welcome at the charging stations!

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    That would be a friendly email “Any chance I could have the charger around lunch time?”

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    tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,606
    edited October 2018
    We have a small office of nine, with four of those driving EVs. There is one charger. It hasn't been an issue at our size; everyone has figured out their time slot. More people would create more obvious complications. We'd just add more chargers, but as the batteries get bigger, I could foresee a time when we wouldn't need to. I'm actually out of the schedule now, but some of the guys are coming from the burbs with 1st gen Leafs. They need to charge.

    23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    I work in an office campus of 5 buildings, and my building might have close to 1000 people. As far as I know, there are 2 EV spots. If you get there by 6, you might get one, otherwise, good luck. There was a Model S that would monopolize it for eons, haven't seen it around lately, maybe someone read them the riot act. I've seen at least 3 Model 3s in the garage as well.
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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    edited October 2018
    We have about 250 parked cars between office and warehouse team members at any given time.  

    The only Tesla owner has moved on and we have no charging station.  I don’t think we ever will.   Kinda surprising they didn’t install one when they did the solar panels on the roof.  It was a pretty big deal being the largest array in the state at the time (maybe still, not sure).  The charging station would have been a nice little value add to the whole thing.   


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    laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,733
    Yeah, four building office park here, ~1200 folks. Four stations, but not always in use. Two Tesla 3s, a few Prii, couple of Ford C-Max and the BMW X5e, by my count are the consumers. So, hopefully there will be an open spot for the i8 I don't own. Yet? Probably not. Probably. Nah, doesn't make sense. 3 more years of tuition...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    In the parking lot at work...
    2 new Jetta's, a black one and a white one.
    Also a new Lexus, IS350? Looked a bit muscular.
    After that, a couple of blocks up the street, a new black XC40.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    A white Volvo V60 wagon.
    Also saw a couple of Jaguar XF wagons, was poking around a car dealer lot.
    Had no idea they make a wagon. The sticker on the one we looked at was 78k.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    I assume the outgoing (2018) V60? Unless the brand new design hit the ground already which would surprise me.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    I'm thinking it was new design although other than being a Volvo, I had no idea what it was until I got close behind it. Of course, I'm not sure the last time I saw a newer V60.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Saw the new baby Caddy CUV on the road in suburban Detroit today.

    I've really noticed the higher proportion of later model domestic cars on the road here compared to the west coast, especially outside the cities. I noticed more brand diversity in Cleveland, and even around Detroit, but some other places it seemed to be 95% domestic.
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Did you hit the Rock 'n Roll Hall of fame while in Cleveland? The east side has some good Italian food and the west side good ribs.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Nope, didn't really have time, and the Christmas Story house was more relevant to me. Maybe if I return another time.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    In Detroit, I saw some kind of cladded mule/protoype of a middle CUV kind of vehicle, maybe a Ford as I was in Dearborn. On the highway today I saw a cladded 4 door Jeep Wrangler pickup mule.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,316
    fintail said:

    In Detroit, I saw some kind of cladded mule/protoype of a middle CUV kind of vehicle, maybe a Ford as I was in Dearborn. On the highway today I saw a cladded 4 door Jeep Wrangler pickup mule.

    The Jeep is the new Gladiator.

    I've seen some disguised cars here in Colorado, for high altitude testing.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,949
    Saw my first Buick Sportbrake thingy in the wild yesterday right here in my home town. Nothing terribly special, but good looking, and it stood out enough that I spotted it coming at me from far away.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Big wagons used to be everywhere. Now they really stand out. Sad.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    a new style Altima with temp tags. Nice looking. sharper than the old one, but looks lower, and quite a bit (especially in profile) like an Accord. Interior was nice.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,316
    stickguy said:

    a new style Altima with temp tags. Nice looking. sharper than the old one, but looks lower, and quite a bit (especially in profile) like an Accord. Interior was nice.

    Now also,available with AWD and a turbo instead of the V6

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    Saw a brand new Sienna "SE".. all black, clear taillights and black wheels. I never really got the idea of a sporty Minivan.

    Not the first time it's been done.... head over to Mystery Car Pix

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    boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    tjc78 said:

    Saw a brand new Sienna "SE".. all black, clear taillights and black wheels. I never really got the idea of a sporty Minivan.

    Not the first time it's been done.... head over to Mystery Car Pix

    Dodge has a sporty trim level for their Caravan too with blacked out light housings and black wheels, black grille and trim. I guess when the same design has been out for a decade they need new ideas for trim levels to help sell it.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    out car shopping today, saw a Stinger in an odd flat battleship gray. Not at all attractive. Not sure why, but it was parked at the Honda dealer.

    also a Lincoln Nautilus. Dumb name, but pretty sharp looking car. Replacement for the MKX (iow the Lincoln Edge)

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    Explorer based, right?

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    could be. Did not look that big, but could be just the styling.

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    The Aviator is the 3-row Explorer derivative. 
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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    edited December 2018
    Yeah, but old truck based Explorer both disc

    The Nautilus is still the Edge based model like the MKX was. I just looked it up.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    that is what it looked like to me. I mentioned the edge to the salesguy and he didn't correct it!

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    tjc78 said:

    Yeah, but old truck based Explorer both disc

    The Nautilus is still the Edge based model like the MKX was. I just looked it up.

    Nope, new Aviator is based on new Explorer.
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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    Ok.... now I feel better.  I knew there was supposed to be an Explorer based new Lincoln SUV.  I just didn’t realize the MKX was being renamed to Nautilus.  All makes sense now. 

    Thanks! 

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,320
    I believe the Aviator is supposed is going to get released fist, so technically Explorer is a derivative of the Aviator.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    From what I've read, the next gen Explorer/Aviator will be unibody rear wheel drive or optional AWD, but still RWD favored when AWD not needed. Should be interesting.
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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    Interesting. Does it have any relationship to the Mustang chassis?  I thought they were going to use that for some new vehicle. 
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I don't know. They'd have to extend that quite a bit for a large 3 seat SUV. But I think Ford is planning on some other crossovers in the next couple of years as well. I also think Ford (and Honda) is beginning to use some sort of AWD system that shifts power between all four wheels in some popular priced vehicles. It would be nice to see Ford step into the limelight for awhile after years of nothing much special.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Saw a new style Altima on the road, apparent rental. Looks like an improvement, although the faux floating C-pillar can't go away soon enough.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Saw a new Avalon this morning. A stunning combination of bland and ghastly.
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