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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They have Aztecs at the Budget Rent-a-car place near White Flint (not far from Fitzgerald Subaru).

    Man, if I were renting and that's all they had left, I'd walk!

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    saw one at a dealer yesterday... $48K 2x the price of my Trooper, and I'm sure they won't negotiate much off that price...

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I posted your comments about the McIntosh over at the I-club. Someone was asking about it.
    Hope you don't mind. If I owe you royalty fees, let me know :-).
    Dennis
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    $48k!? How much of that was options, how much mark up?

    Guess the 4Runner approaches $40k with options, so we shouldn't be surprised.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That was what the sticker said. I'd get an LC before the sequioa, it looks like a tundra with a cap on the back, very pickupish, less SUVish. I could picture some good ole boys driving it :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Guess that's the thing with Toyota - they nickel-and-dime you to death!

    Reviews are estimating prices at $32-36k. If I walked in and saw even $42k I'd pass out.

    The RAV4 is the same way. AWD, ABS, power stuff, even the rear bumper cost extra, so they can advertise an artificially low price.

    -juice
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Anybody order from Darlene lately? She must be swamped. I emailed her several times without a response. Finally did a phone order for a bunch of filters but haven't seen anything and its been about 10 days. Hate to bug her but I guess I will.

    I am going to order the replacement regular Legacy L black dash trim for the wood grain pieces on my GT. Checked with my dealer and the larger piece that surrounds the HVAC is $60.

    bit
  • shndvnshndvn Member Posts: 22
    Been busy with work and stuff but still managed
    to put over 10K on my new Forester in the last
    6 months. Will get a lot more over the winter
    with all the trips up to Tahoe (about 550 miles
    roundtrip). Hope others are also looking forward
    to some AWD winter fun.

    Anyway, I managed to hit a rather nasty pothole
    the other day with the passenger side of the
    vehicle. I'm not sure if both wheels hit it
    (I was kinda stunned) but it made a very loud
    bang. Nothing seems seriously broken but I've
    noticed a few not-so-good things since then
    (ride seems a little rougher, car leans to one
    side when parked, etc). I'm probably just
    paranoid but is there anything I should check
    (or have checked next time I go for maintenance)?
    For those of you in the San Jose area, the
    pothole was in the far right lane on North 1st
    St going from 237 to Tasman Dr. It's a
    really bad one and I can't believe how long
    it's gone without getting fixed.

    Some other quick questions for you knowledgeable
    people:

    - what exactly is 'low range'? I know it's good
    to have for slow speeds on off-roading adventures
    but how does it work?

    - who are the Big 3 automakers? Ford, GM, and
    Chrysler? It seems Hondas are everywhere here.
    I think they must be #1 or #2 in Silicon
    Valley. Is Subaru in the top 10?

    Thanks!
  • amishraamishra Member Posts: 367
    I don't know what the bulla-hoo over the McIntosh stereo is. I'm into the "sound" scene pretty heavy, and there is no way the stock McIntosh with the stock speakers compares to even a intermediate aftermarket setup (<750 US).

    So yes, feel free to post it over on I-club...

    Ash
  • al2al2 Member Posts: 73
    My wife just picked up her new Forester S in black/titanium silver with auto.

    She wants to know if she 'joins' the Subaru Club, does she get a t-shirt, a beanie and a secret decoder ring? (I think she's just getting to me for spending time on the Sub forums!).

    The dealer threw in a cargo net and hood deflector at our request to finalize the deal;hence my questions about these items a while back.

    It was really useful to follow the various posts that helped us settle on a Forester and decide what we wanted specifically. It was interesting that people were concerned about high insurance costs since the 2001 Forester insures for the same price as my wife's just-sold 1985 Camry sedan. Obviously in British Columbia the government-owned insurance company ( a monopoly) considers the Forester a low risk vehicle.

    Thanks again to all who answered my questions over the past few weeks.

    Cheers, Al
  • davechendavechen Member Posts: 41
    Shane, thanks for the pothole warning. I work at N.1st & Tasman (KLA-Tencor)! Small world.

    Does the alignment seem okay? Car tracks straight and true? Any vibration in the steering wheel at certain speeds, or when braking? If not, then there probably isn't any damage --a big pothole would probably also cause noticeable misalignment and/or wheel imbalance/vibration. Beyond that 'test', you might have to have a body/frame shop use instruments to check if everything is straight. If there *is* damage, you can legally request compensation from the city, since it is their responsibility to provide pavement. Save your paperwork! Take a picture of the pothole too, perhaps with a recent newspaper as in the photo as a 'timestamp'.

    I think "Big 3" refers to American car manufacturers, not foreign. However, Honda is still only less than 1/4 the size of Toyota, which I think is smaller than any of the Big 3. Every other region I've gone to seems to have a lower density of Hondas than the SF Bay Area.

    I doubt Subaru makes it in the top 10.

    Uh, I'll let someone else explain low range.
    Dave C.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Haven't heard from her either. I've been trying to get in touch with her regarding a replacement cabin air filter, but she doesn't seem to be responding to e-mails or phone.

    Anyone else know?

    Ken
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Shane,

    Sorry to hear about the pothole. I think Dave pretty much covered what I would do if I were in your situation. The mind can play strange tricks so you should have it checked out just to be sure. Also, document the pothole so you can get San Jose to foot any bills.

    As for low range, it refers to low ratio gearing. Typically, off-road vehicles will have a gear selector that when pulled, will lower all the gear ratios in your transmission. This feature is handy when you're trying to get through some very slippery conditions.

    Think of it this way. 1st gear on "normal" vehicles is usually good for situations where you need to "crawl" at low speeds or need lots of pulling power. Low range enables even slower speeds for very slippery conditions.

    For the most part, light-duty vehicles like our Foresters don't need one. In some markets like Australia, the manual tranny Foresters are fitted with a low range transfer case probably so the drivers can drive veeerrrry slowly without stalling out their vehicles or burning their clutches. The AT transmission models there don't have that since you don't need to work a clutch.

    Ken
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I've been trying to contact Darlene too, with no luck. If it's the same as usual, than she must be swamped. I think she's doing too much business!

    Craig
  • spi9959spi9959 Member Posts: 14
    Darlene has been sick and out of work for the past two weeks. She is scheduled to return on Monday, November 20th.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The camary you got rid of is one of the highest stolen vehicles along with honda accords. So by your insurance not going down, it actually went up! (Kinda likea tax break means they don't raise taxes)

    My insurance actually dropped from my '97 rodeo to my '00 Trooper because the trooper is less likely to get stolen.

    Potholes: You haven't seen potholes til you've been to NYC :) That is why everyone here drives an SUV or Outback, cause every road is like an off-road trail. We don't have many potholes anymore, just Craters!

    -mike
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    buy your comments at all!! I welcome them and I've been forwarding them. I was having some home PC problems but I think we have them fixed. I could get on at work, but I've been a bit swamped so I couldn't comment.

    Keep those comments coming!
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    but I'm having to bite my lip (fingers) and not post. It seems that a poster at another site took an e-mail response from one of our Reps. and "edited" his comments stating that the SVX is coming back in MY 2001/2002. I've asked him to correct his edit, but to no avail.

    Posting at sites is a whole new world for us, but man does it bug me to see this happen. I don't have the time (or inclination) with stuff like this to post anywhere else, but if you folks hear about this, please feel free to let them know how you feel about such edits. It has caused us some concern about clarifying things on the web.

    So much for my rant. If you hear about this, we currently do not have ANY plans on bringing back the SVX, but we are continuing to develop future models that may incorporate some of the designs from previous vehicles.

    Thanks! Patti
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    Subarus are robust, but all vehicles can suffer damage if subject to very violent shocks as comes from deep potholes. The bang may have been the suspension bottoming out. I have not peered under my Outback but most cars are fitted with rubber bump stops which effectively provide a final bit of give after the springs have run to their maximum compression, protecting hard metal hitting the underside of the body. If you can see the contact points between bump stop and body, there is a fair chance that a pothole type impact will have rubbed off accumulated dirt (like an eraser) and you will know if that is what the big bang was. It is unlikely that the bump stop will have been reached on both sides of the car.

    If there is no deterioration in handling, steering or braking (funny shakes and wobbles at steady speeds), keep an eye on tire wear, particularly at the edges of the front tires (most delicate part of the suspension).

    If problems are apparent, get the car looked at by a reputable and specialist alignment shop.

    A couple of potential problem areas I have experienced is bent rims, possible even with mg wheels, and bent or damaged suspension mounting brackets. I accidentally flew my Corolla Twin Cam into an outback creek bed, where there should have been the continuation of a track, on our honeymoon (same track had 30 creek crossings and car started floating on number 29, almost washed away on 30. My wife waded every crossing after that, throughout our honeymoon and subsequently everyone has assumed I am a brutal husband. Judy did not mind as it was in the middle of a hot, if uncharacteristically wet, desert) and bent one wheel rim and displaced a U-bracket on the anti-roll bar. Under test conditions, we could not see why the car chewed through tyres and it was only a really good inspection by a roadworthiness tester that found the problem.

    Tyre and wheel problems show at different speed depending on the tyre size and harmonic frequency coming from any imbalance. Typical problems will show up at about 60mph to 70mph although slower on smaller wheeled cars.

    Before measuring slump of the car from side to side, remove all passengers and junk, park on absolutely level surface so that both sides are at same height (check by rolling a hard ball around to see which way it slopes and park car along the direction of the ball's travel). Inflate tyres to identical pressure and bounce the car by hand from front bumper/back bumper to shake out any friction hold in shock absorbers. Check height from ground to top of wheel arch. Variation of about 5-10mm from side to side is normal.

    If you can look at suspension components, look for signs of stressed or bent metal.

    Hope this is useful

    Cheers

    Graham
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    Thanks for letting us know you're still alive ;-)

    The person who edited the message from your rep and then reposted the edit did two things wrong. One, they publicized private correspondence. I don't think this is illegal in the US but it is considered to be extremely poor etiquette; if someone does this to me it is usually the last time I ever exchange private correspondence with that person. Second, they violated copyright rules (don't know if they broke laws, ask your lawyers). The author of a message, be it a letter to an individual or a post to a public forum, holds the copyright to that text.

    I can think of a couple of things you could do. One, have a staff attorney write the individual a letter, on appropriate letterhead, explaining the situation. This is a very effective response in my experience - it usually scares the wheee out of them sufficiently that they start acting like adults again :-) Two, you could post the actual text of the message sent to the individual to the same forum where they posted the doctored version. This should have the effect of making the person look foolish and untrustworthy, also a very effective strategy.

    Best of luck, and please please PLEASE do not judge an entire forum by one or two rogue individuals. The kook ratio online is about the same as it is everywhere else - no better, no worse.

    Best,
    -wdb
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Since we are on the subject of the SVX. Had SOA marketed it better and brought the price down, it could have been a big seller. I believe a 2 door coupe version of the Legacy with an H6 turbo could push subaru into it's next niche market of AWD performance cars. Perhaps even a removable hardtop.

    In all likelyhood when my XT6 dies, I'll be buying a used SVX if I can find one, they were classy vehicles.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Patti, I don't know which site you're referring to
    (re: wrong SVX info), but I had heard (again,
    rumors) that Subaru in Japan is thinking about an
    new vehicle to possibly compete with Audi's TT - in effect a "sports" car, which is probably where the SVX "resurrection rumor" is coming from. This has been fairly widely posted throughout the internet.

    Also, my take on the fact that the new 2002
    Impreza does NOT have a coupe, leads me to think
    that Subaru will offer some sort of "sporty"
    coupe/roadster in the not too distant future.

    I just can't imagine Subaru not having a vehicle
    for those Impreza RS 2.5 coupe owners, for when
    they're ready to get a new (2-door) vehicle. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem like smart planning not to follow up with a sporty/performance coupe - after the launch of the WRX models.

    Who cares what they call it, as long as it
    arrives.

    Bob
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Hold yer horses, hombres!

    Paisan-

    While I agree the SVX was badly marketed (what, no 5-speed!?), I disagree it would have been a big seller. It would have died the same death the RX-7, 300ZX, Supra, and lesser models like the MX-5, NX, CRX, (dare I say Fiero? Naa, that had other problems) and others. the 1st set of cars listed were all superb GT cars, but the American taste or the entire segment went south in the early to mid-90's, and would surely have taken SVX down as well.

    Why bring it back? FHI already has a flagship performance model that can run with 911's and flat out mangle the TT, which, in the wake of high-profile handling quirks, has been reduced to little more than a comfortable styling exercise. Why muddy the marketing with 2 such vehicles, when a company already has 1 successful platform? I just don't see how one could justify the expense of developing and marketing such a thing with no clear segment to slot it into, especially with the WRX STi already doing such a great job for corporate rep AND sales. the niche for dedicated, 2 seat cars the size of the SVX is now occupied mostly by 6 digit pricetag monsters, a niche FHI does not have the means to explore right now.
    the WRX just took a step upmarket with improved ergonomics, more room, better road manners, etc. I'll put money on it happening again in the next 5 years, as FHI closes in on the near luxury sport market, just as it is closing in on the near luxury sedan/wagon market now.

    That, of course, means that those US devotees out there without much $$ better get their Soobs in the next 3 years or so, 'cause the WHOLE industry is movin' uptown, not just Soob.

    my 2 cents for the day. Time to go to work instead of pretending I work in the auto industry!! ;-)
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I don't think having a WRX sedan/wagon, and having a sports coupe/roadster (SVX?) would "muddy the waters." They're really different customers. The only thing they have in common is they want a performance vehicle.

    Bob
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Have you posted on that site yourself? Usually when mis-information is spread on the i-club (such as Vendor X's product doesn't do this or that), the vendor themselves usually set the record straight. Or either Colin does. ;-)
    Any chance you tell us which site?
    Dennis
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Would compete with the likes of BMW M, Benz 2 door coupes(C class?), Lexus SC400?, T-Bird, etc.

    Shooting for the empty nester's that now find themselves not needing people movers and who have the $ to spend on a 2 door coupe, that is a good road vehicle.

    I just don't see the WRX even a coupe, appealing to the same crowd and the SC400, etc.

    -mike
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    That is a good point. I forgot the coupe is ixnayed. My point is, the SVX image, if there is any lingering at this point, doesn't sync with the type of vehicle we're talking about here. And even in the US, how are you going to get folks to think Subaru for such a thing? Maybe after the WRX and H6 have pushed the brand image upmarktet, I suppose....

    Now, the ragtop thing is different; that segment seems to be doing pretty well. But the SVX was a bigger car, a thoroughbred in size, shape and tech. So I don't think that bringing a sport convertible up as an SVX is good marketing, personally.

    I AM NOT arguing against Soob developing such a car. Perhaps I have erred; I thought we were talking about bringing back the essence of SVX, i.e. GT, as opposed to using the name to introduce a SC or roadster. Sizewise, such a model would prolly be based in the Impreza chassis anyway...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I wouldn't get too hung up on the SVX name or former image of that vehicle.

    I think there is a market for a performance coupe and/or roadster in the Subaru lineup. I think it could (should!) utilize as many components from the WRX and/or Legacy GT as possible to keep costs down.

    Reading between the lines of what Patti said, is that Subaru is not bringing back the SVX, but she/Subaru have left the door open by making reference to the fact that Subaru is always looking into future products. Of course, that can mean anything- including some sort of future coupe/roadster. Or... it could mean nothing at all.

    My bet is that if Subaru does offer some sort of coupe/roadster in the future, that it will not be called an SVX - which fits perfectly into what Patti said.

    Bob
  • beachbum8beachbum8 Member Posts: 3
    well, thanks to all the extremely valuable info that i have read on this board for the last month or so, my fiance and i pick our '01 wintergreen outback 5sp on monday. we opted for the all weather package and the stereo upgrade; 6 disc, tweeters, amp., subwoofer. our dealer found the car with the options we wanted plus the security upgrade and leather shift knob which they threw in for 'free.' i do have one question that i suppose i'll find the answer to on monday; where is the subwoofer located?
    we are very excited of course. the only thing i am worried about is the fact that the boss will now expect me at work regardless of the weather! ;)
    i am planning on getting the windows tinted before the summer. does anyone know of a reputable shop in the philadelphia area that does tinting?
    i hope to share our experiences once we get the car.
    thank to all again.
    -jrl
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    I think many factors were responsible for the death of the SVX. The main one in MHO was the market for 2 dr coupes nosedived in the 90's. Look at all the other coupes that met a similar fate, Nissan 300ZX, Toyota Supra, Dodge Stealth/Mitsu 3000GT. All were in the same price and market, all met the same fate. The Camaro/Firebird have been getting reprieves since 1995, still questionable on when production stops.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Reading between the lines...

    That draft of the 2002 Impreza "Color Chart" offers some interesting indications of how Subaru is planning to market the new Impreza, such as:

    1.
    The "RS" models no longer have "2.5" as part of the name. This makes sense, since "2.5" is no longer special or unique.

    2.
    The RS name is only for sedans. Non-WRX wagons will be called "TS," not "RS." This leads me to think that the TS wagons will probably be a bit less performance-oriented than the RS sedans. Perhaps, from a content standpoint, somewhere in between a "L" (no longer available) and the RS. It might be that the RS models come with 16" alloy wheels, and the TS come with 15" steel wheels?? Who knows?

    3.
    It appears that the Outback Sport will now be called the Impreza Outback. There was no reference to the word "Sport" on the color chart.

    Also, I found it interesting that all models, except the Outback had gray shading behind the copy, which to me indicates that Subaru is going to perhaps try to really separate the (Impreza) Outback from the WRX/RS/TS models from a marketing standpoint. Could Subaru be thinking of not using the word Impreza when referring to the new Outback - much like they do with the Legacy/Legacy Outback? If that's the case, they will need to distinguish the current base (Legacy) Outback in some fashion. Perhaps call it a Outback RS??

    Hmmm...

    Bob
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Congrats on your new car! The sub is probably under the driver's seat.
    Dennis
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    I've heard on the radio that all upper Chrysler management in the US is now replaced by German team (ja,ja,die Deutsche Kommande), for failing the market... any thoughts, meine Freunde?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    The pundits are going to come out of the woodwork now. That was one of the major concerns when Daimler-Benz "merged with" (read "tookover") Chrysler. When former Chrysler chairman and DC co-chair Bob Eaton retired, I figured the rest of the US management team wasn't long for the world. I'm actually surprised it took them this long to kick out all the Yanks!

    Craig
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    The German's represented the takeover as a merger, then ripped the guts out of Chrysler. All the senior U.S. Management has been leaving ever since. The German's have no idea how to take the best of a company and use their strength's to improve it. They start changing everything to their ways of doing things, regardless of whether it is right or not.
  • FrankMcFrankMc Member Posts: 228
    there are also rumors (hotly denied) that Daimler is going to spin off Chrysler to be rid of it. (It may be a little early for this, usually a new CEO comes in and then he can blaime the old manager).
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Folks, for those of us that were following this, Car and Driver did a neat test that may be of interest. It's located here.

    Craig
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    Congratulations on your new car! On the Legacy/Outback the subwoofer is located under the passenger's seat. When you find a good tinting shop in the Phila area, post here! I'm leaning towards tint too, but haven't really researched to find a good shop yet.

    Cheers,
    -wdb
    '00 Legacy GT sedan
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    Is Lee Iacocca retired for good? Maybe it's time for him to come back and save Chrysler (at taxpayers expense, of course) again?
  • bg18947bg18947 Member Posts: 184
    As part of the technology and investment deal, I think GM should rebadge a GT wagon as the Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. It's got the double glass roofs to justify the old Vista name. Wood-grain? Of course. Without the woodgrain, it would only be a Cutlass Cruiser. And, bring back the rocket symbol.

    The Legacy GT with a dual-outlet exhaust can become the Olds 442. 4Speed, 4WD (Okay it's AWD instead of 4bbl carb), and dual chrome tip outlets.

    The Outback LL Bean edition can be the Custom Cruiser (Home Depot Edition) or something like that.

    Now if we can have a 4.55 liter boxer engine instead of a 455CID-V8, then you can be smoking some tires.

    Okay, I should stop smoking those funny cigarettes.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I miss that car now that you bring up the olds nameplate...

    1974, Olds 98 Regecny Hardtop
    455 Rocket Engine
    Dual Exhaust (Factory)
    No Cats

    That was a smokin car! And I could put an impreza in the trunk, and the back seat was a living room couch! You could also land planes on the hood. It was 10 inches longer than a 1997 Suburban (and 1/2inch wider)

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Keep Lee (Airbag) Iacocca in retirement! He was what Chrysler needed in the '80s, but not what they need now.

    What DC needs to do, is to find some way of bringing Gandhi back to life, and have him replace Juergen Schrempp.

    For what it's worth, this may be a good time to buy Chrysler stock. It can't go much lower, and it WILL turn around someday.

    Bob
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    A good book to read on the US auto industry is "Comeback, the Fall and Rise of the US Auto Industry". It gives a lot of insights into what was wrong with the Domestics in the 80's and how they rebounded in the 90's. A good read.
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    Chrysler repaid every cent of the loan guarantee's used to bail them out. The U.S. taxpayer lost nothing.
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    Heh heh, check this out.

    Drew/aling
    Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Hi all,

    I've been away from the board for a while as I was on vacation in London. Wedged in among all the touristy things I did, I visited a Subaru dealer in the Kensington section of the city, where I got to sit in and fire up an Impreza P1. Sadly I didn't get to actually DRIVE it; however, I doubt I'd have been able to enjoy much of its capabilities due to the heavy traffic.

    The dealer is very small and tucked into a cul-de-sac. The showroom held only 8 cars: in addition to the P1 there was one Outback, one Legacy wagon, two Impreza Turbos (4-door), 1 normally aspirated Impreza wagon (5-door over there), a Forester "All Weather" (combo of our L and S), a Forester S Turbo, and a 2000 Forester S Turbo. UK Forester S models have IMO nicer interiors than US models (they get that faux suede alcantara like the SVX had), plus all UK Foresters get headlamp washers and self-leveling rear suspensions. In addition, there's a Prodrive package that can be installed on Forester S Turbos that consists of upgraded suspension, exhaust, reprogrammed chip, wheels and tyres that bumps the S Turbo's 170bhp up to somewhere in the 200 range. (I'll have to go back and look at the brochure to verify). Anyway I'm jealous of what Soob owners can get over there.

    Didn't see any new Imprezas; the dealer said they were being doled out with an eyedropper. Did see some other interesting iron over there, like the TVR Tuscan and Cerbera and Nissan Skyline GT-R, and the amazingly small Smart. Plus a lot of boring things labelled Ford and Vauxhall, and many other nondescript things I won't bore you with.

    Anyway, good to be back and catching up on the boards.

    Ed
  • amishraamishra Member Posts: 367
    Ed: I'm in London tomorrow until next week. Where is this dealer?!

    I need a P1. Okay, well I would like to pretend I need a P1.

    --- ash
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I was at that same dealership, about four years ago - Ace Kennsington! I talked with the owner for some time - real nice fella (chap!). They had an Impreza turbo wagon on the showroom floor.

    It is tucked away. Was it Radley Mews? I had a hell of a time finding it.

    Bob
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    ...never borrowed a dime from the taxpayers. He got the guarantees and they were enough to get him loans from private sources; private money raised Chrysler from the depths (that and the ability to put 20 different bodies on top of the same bloody platform - a platform you can still buy today - but that's another story). If *you* loaned him money, complain to your investment counselor - NOT your CongressCritter.

    -wdb
  • russ9406russ9406 Member Posts: 30
    Just watched the show and went to the web site. The forester can only handle a load of 900 lbs.
    They also advised against loading things on the roof of any SUV.
    http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020friday_001117_suvs_feature.html

    Russ
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