Real-World Trade-In Values

nyccarguy · May 2019

corvette said:

@nyccarguy I'm not familiar with the market, but I can't believe Fits are only $200 off sticker. The Sonic is a viable competitor, IIRC, and I think Hyundai and/or Kia have something, as well. I'm guessing a Civic or Corolla hatch would be even more.

There isn’t much money in the Fit to begin with. They are the perfect size inside and out for deliveries. There’s NO WAY a Sonic would hold up as well as the Fits do. Not to mention the INSANE resale value of the Fit. He had Ford Econoline Vans for the longest time. When gas went nuts high after Katrina and his vans needed replacing (and were sucking down $100 every 3-4 days) he decided to downsize. I told him to look at the Fit, but he went with (2) Chevy HHR because it was a few thousand cheaper. The HHRs were literally falling apart after 50K miles. He bought (2) ‘09 Fits and he’s hooked.

qbrozen · May 2019

exactly. the markup from invoice on the Fit is only a few hundred bucks.

qbrozen · May 2019

Here is one in great colors with half the miles for less.

gmanusmc · May 2019

qbrozen said:
Here is one in great colors with half the miles for less.

Yeah - we've pretty much seen all or most of the listings - his preference is a 2010/11 that has a battery that hasn't degraded excessively. Looks like the blue 2008 has around 140 miles of range fully charged. The gray 2010 is charging to 200 mile range. Also, the 2010/11s apparently have better info tech features. He's still working with the dealer on the price to see if they can come to terms.

qbrozen · May 2019

Kind of surprised people pay that kind of money for them. I’d sooner get an Elise SC. Or, better yet, a much newer Alfa 4c.

d2ce · June 2019

What should I expect for:
2019 Acura RDX base
Silver
17,500 miles
Black interior
Excellent condition

nyccarguy · June 2019

d2ce said:
What should I expect for:
2019 Acura RDX base
Silver
17,500 miles
Black interior
Excellent condition

fwd OR awd?

What region of the country are you located in?

thebean · June 2019

Where (location, not just zip code), any dings that might be on Carfax? All this will help qbrozen. Just FYI, why are you getting rid of it so soon, if that’s not intrusive to ask.

d2ce · June 2019

d2ce said:

What should I expect for:
2019 Acura RDX base
Silver
17,500 miles
Black interior
Excellent condition

*Fwd
Dallas, TX

Considering moving to 3 row for more space with growing family.

henryn · June 2019

d2ce said:

d2ce said:

What should I expect for:
2019 Acura RDX base
Silver
17,500 miles
Black interior
Excellent condition

*Fwd
Dallas, TX

Considering moving to 3 row for more space with growing family.

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Which, of course, means the most practical, most logical answer would be a minivan. (ducking and running for cover)

tjc78 · June 2019

Part of me wants to get an older minivan (something low mileage, maybe senior owned). Then just lease two nice cars for my wife and I to commute to work.

Van would be used just for trips with the family and gear in tow.

qbrozen · June 2019

I don’t have data on the 2019 RDX. Only one example with 5k miles. If that one is any indicator, I think you may be looking at about $28k.

steine13 · June 2019

@tjc78 If it's an 'extra' car for work and long trips, you could consider spending $20k for a brand-new Grand Caravan. It's a lot of car for the money, has pretty much everything you'd want, and you don't have to sift through the used selections. Most of the kind of vans you'd buy used -- i.o.w. from people with money and sense -- started life with plenty of bells and whistles and are quite old by the time they get to be significantly cheaper.

qbrozen · June 2019

I’m afraid to think how decontented our van would need to be to hit $20k. Does that even have seats?

henryn · June 2019

I don't think you can hit $20k. According to TrueCar, you can hit $22k on the SE model Grand Caravan. No stow-n-go seats, no USB ports, no bluetooth. The SE Plus would seem to be the minimum that anyone would actually buy for themselves rather than as a company vehicle. And that one would set you back about $26k.

I would recommend, instead, something like this one:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=515289417&zip=77021&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=77021&listingTypes=USED&startYear=2014&sortBy=relevance&incremental=all&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=on&endYear=2016&modelCodeList=TANDC&makeCodeList=CHRY&searchRadius=25&listingTypes=USED&startYear=2014&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2016&modelCodeList=TANDC&makeCodeList=CHRY&searchRadius=25&makeCode1=CHRY&modelCode1=TANDC&clickType=listing

tjc78 · June 2019

Yes something like that 2014 would be exactly what I want.

Wife is not on board at all, lol.

stickguy · June 2019

not a bad looking van. Pretty well equipped. For a spare car for "work" duty makes sense.

corvette · June 2019

How long did they sell the VW Voyager version? 2012-ish? One of the later ones with the Pentastar engine might also work.

stickguy · June 2019

well, a Chrysler product that you need to deal with VW service department for? That does not sound like an optimal situation.

though I guess by now out of warranty so can take it anywhere. Indy, or if you want dealer, just go to the Chrysler dealer since all the mechanical bits are the same.

henryn · June 2019

Not "Voyager". That was the Plymouth version of the Caravan, back when Plymouth was still around. It was called the VW Routan.

corvette · June 2019

henryn said:
Not "Voyager". That was the Plymouth version of the Caravan, back when Plymouth was still around. It was called the VW Routan.

I know. I always called it the VW Voyager, because there was no Plymouth anymore, and because I thought it had a better ring to it.

Dan18932 · June 2019

Looking for value on a 2016 4x4 4Runner sr5 with 31k miles. Options are all terrain tires, nav, tint, running boards. White exterior. Located in Southern California

qbrozen · June 2019

Dan18932 said:

Looking for value on a 2016 4x4 4Runner sr5 with 31k miles. Options are all terrain tires, nav, tint, running boards. White exterior. Located in Southern California

Assuming no runs/hits/errors, and assuming it has no maintenance needs, right about $28k.

Billwnh · June 2019

Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

qbrozen · June 2019

Billwnh said:

Hi all, I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think. 2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4, LTZ trim level, black Z71 Sunroof 17xxx miles It's in very good condition Zip = 03894 Looking to trade towards a new Ram Thanks and let me know if you need more info. Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?

nyccarguy · June 2019

Billwnh said:
Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

What region of the country or state is zip code 03894?

Billwnh · June 2019

nyccarguy said:

Billwnh said:
Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill
What region of the country or state is zip code 03894?

Sorry, New England - New Hampshire

nyccarguy · June 2019

Billwnh said:

Hi all, I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think. 2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4, LTZ trim level, black Z71 Sunroof 17xxx miles It's in very good condition Zip = 03894 Looking to trade towards a new Ram Thanks and let me know if you need more info. Bill
What region of the country or state is zip code 03894?
Sorry, New England - New Hampshire

No need to be sorry. The more information you provide, the more accurate answer @qbrozen can give you.

If your truck was somewhere in the south, the fact that it has 4WD wouldn’t matter as much as it does that it is in NH (where a 2WD truck would be unsellable).

henryn · June 2019

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?

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I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.

dillydill · June 2019

qbrozen said:

gmanusmc said:

Hi Q - was wondering if you could magically come up with any auction info on this Tesla Roadster - it's a 2010 and very clean with about 57,000 miles on it. It appears that the dealer picked it up at auction around the end of April.
The VIN is 5YJRE1A34A1001157

Also, any idea of what a fair retail value might be?

Thanks

They paid $38.5k.
what are they asking for it?
For most cars, I’d say $41k, but I have a feeling this would be tough given the rarity. Might need to cough up another $1k.

This board is always so helpful and I am thinking my next vehicle will be a used electric.
The EV's with range over 200 miles seem to hold their value pretty well- which as of now is Tesla and Chevy Bolt.
Most asking prices on 2017 Bolt Premier are high $20's which is what I can get a new one for with dealer discount and after 3750 tax credit.
Are these bolts doing well at the auctions?
I would think that EV's like the i3, leaf, and e-golf are a good value on the secondary market.

Michaell · June 2019

dillydill said:

qbrozen said:

gmanusmc said:

Hi Q - was wondering if you could magically come up with any auction info on this Tesla Roadster - it's a 2010 and very clean with about 57,000 miles on it. It appears that the dealer picked it up at auction around the end of April.
The VIN is 5YJRE1A34A1001157

Also, any idea of what a fair retail value might be?

Thanks

They paid $38.5k.
what are they asking for it?
For most cars, I’d say $41k, but I have a feeling this would be tough given the rarity. Might need to cough up another $1k.

This board is always so helpful and I am thinking my next vehicle will be a used electric.
The EV's with range over 200 miles seem to hold their value pretty well- which as of now is Tesla and Chevy Bolt.
Most asking prices on 2017 Bolt Premier are high $20's which is what I can get a new one for with dealer discount and after 3750 tax credit.
Are these bolts doing well at the auctions?
I would think that EV's like the i3, leaf, and e-golf are a good value on the secondary market.

As quick as EV technology (i.e. range) is improving, buying a used EV is like buying an iPad from 2014.

qbrozen · June 2019

dillydill said:

This board is always so helpful and I am thinking my next vehicle will be a used electric.
The EV's with range over 200 miles seem to hold their value pretty well- which as of now is Tesla and Chevy Bolt.
Most asking prices on 2017 Bolt Premier are high $20's which is what I can get a new one for with dealer discount and after 3750 tax credit.
Are these bolts doing well at the auctions?
I would think that EV's like the i3, leaf, and e-golf are a good value on the secondary market.

2017 Bolt LT with 24k'ish miles is about $22k at the block. Should be an easy buy at $25k.

HOWEVER, does it really make sense at $7k-$7500 more than a 2017 Volt LT?

explorerx4 · June 2019

I think the 6.2 is only available in the High Country model.

andres3 · June 2019

It's June, and that means it's time to get some figures @qbrozen

First Up:

1) 2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8T DSG White Exterior, Black Interior, 30,000 miles. In good shape but the rear bumper did have to be reworked after a parking lot ding. I noticed you can tell the rear bumper was repainted on the edge between the taillight and the metal. Probably above average body shop work, but my advice on body shops is to look from 5' away or more. San Diego.

Second up:

2) Lease return, currently 2016 Kia Optima LX Turbo 1.6T Sedan, White metallic, beige interior (still mostly black), 32,000 miles, dual clutch auto. Good condition. San Diego. Will anyone other than Kia offer a deal worth returning the lease early? Starting to get emails from Kia that they really want '16 Optimas, go figure!

steine13 · June 2019

@qbrozen -- this is strictly for entertainment value, as my lease won't be turned in for another six months or so, but I'd like to know what the market is for these now. The car below is a hatchback manual, so it's probably better to see what the value is for hatch autos... but maybe there are some out there, who knows.

2017 Chevrolet Cruze hatchback LT
Burgandy™ over black cloth.
15k miles
Smoke- pet- accident- free, clean.
I can't find my ZIP code but the location is 42.74, -84.50 degrees.

Thanks in advance.. if you get around to it.
I'll ask in anger some time around Thanksgiving.
Greetings from mid-Michigan

explorerx4 · June 2019

@steine13,
With a post like that, he probably needs to know what planet you are on.
Just kidding, love your next vehicle searches.

Billwnh · June 2019

henryn said:

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?

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I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.

Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

corvette · June 2019

Billwnh said:

Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

Is this something that would be reported on the Carfax (police report filed), or something like you scraped the side of your garage door?

qbrozen · June 2019

Billwnh said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all, I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think. 2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4, LTZ trim level, black Z71 Sunroof 17xxx miles It's in very good condition Zip = 03894 Looking to trade towards a new Ram Thanks and let me know if you need more info. Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?
-==-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-=- I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.
Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

Hmmm... what exactly does that mean? Who is paying for it? How much will the bill be?

qbrozen · June 2019

andres3 said:

It's June, and that means it's time to get some figures @qbrozen First Up: 1) 2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8T DSG White Exterior, Black Interior, 30,000 miles. In good shape but the rear bumper did have to be reworked after a parking lot ding. I noticed you can tell the rear bumper was repainted on the edge between the taillight and the metal. Probably above average body shop work, but my advice on body shops is to look from 5' away or more. San Diego. Second up: 2) Lease return, currently 2016 Kia Optima LX Turbo 1.6T Sedan, White metallic, beige interior (still mostly black), 32,000 miles, dual clutch auto. Good condition. San Diego. Will anyone other than Kia offer a deal worth returning the lease early? Starting to get emails from Kia that they really want '16 Optimas, go figure!

1. $16k
2. $11k-$11.5k

if the buyout is $12.5 or lower, check with carvana/vroom

qbrozen · June 2019

steine13 said:

@qbrozen -- this is strictly for entertainment value, as my lease won't be turned in for another six months or so, but I'd like to know what the market is for these now. The car below is a hatchback manual, so it's probably better to see what the value is for hatch autos... but maybe there are some out there, who knows. 2017 Chevrolet Cruze hatchback LT Burgandy™ over black cloth. 15k miles Smoke- pet- accident- free, clean. I can't find my ZIP code but the location is 42.74, -84.50 degrees. Thanks in advance.. if you get around to it. I'll ask in anger some time around Thanksgiving. Greetings from mid-Michigan

Apparently you have the only manual made. ;b

I’ll take a stab at $10.5k. That’s about an $800 hit for the handshaker by the book in my imagination.

steine13 · June 2019

Thanks, q!

>> Apparently you have the only manual made. ;b

Funny.
Also funny: our new neighbors across the street just got a new Cruze sedan. Manual. Must be something in the water.

Ya, definitely. Their next door neighbor has three Saabs..

So I'm going to have to pony up around twelve k to buy this thing....not bad for a nearly new car that I kinda like to drive...but it feels a little fragile. Paint is thin, fast shifting into 2nd leads to grinding... do I trust the turbo? I'ma have to think how much we like it as time goes on.

With our super short commutes of less than ten minutes, and sharing rides in the cold months, the ultimate luxury isn't leather seats and quiet, it's a small engine that heats up fast and seat heaters sourced from the toaster factory.

At my age and station in life, I should be driving a 2009 E class wagon and try to look like I bought it new...

corvette · June 2019

@steine13 for a short commute, I’m a big fan of remote start (which I don’t think they offer from the factory with a manual). GM really does it right, the seat heaters and rear window defroster also turn on.

Billwnh · June 2019

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

henryn said:

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?
-==-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.

Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

Hmmm... what exactly does that mean? Who is paying for it? How much will the bill be?

It means I side swiped my sons truck in my driveway at slow speed and scuffed up the paint on the right rear quarter panel and my insurance is paying for the repairs/paint right now. When I go to trade it it will look brand new.

steine13 · June 2019

corvette said:
@steine13 for a short commute, I’m a big fan of remote start (which I don’t think they offer from the factory with a manual). GM really does it right, the seat heaters and rear window defroster also turn on.

I did not know that about GM but ya, that's how it should be done. The seat heater in my Subaru was so tepid I didn't care about getting the feature again... by the time it made a difference, there was heat from the engine, so who cares. In the Cruze, it comes on quickly. Wife loves it. Also in my family, seat heaters are a source of entertainment on summer drives...

As far as I know, NOBODY sells a manual transmission car with a remote start. The reason is pretty obvious; I could install one myself but I've got almost four decades of muscle memory leaving my car in gear... so I'm one failed interlock away from a mishap with serious downside potential. Also it's wasteful. Until the previous winter, I used to ride my bicycle to work at least a couple times a week, in the snow. Very entertaining, but I'm scared of distracted drivers. Anything with a windshield is a step up...

qbrozen · June 2019

Billwnh said:

Billwnh said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all, I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think. 2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4, LTZ trim level, black Z71 Sunroof 17xxx miles It's in very good condition Zip = 03894 Looking to trade towards a new Ram Thanks and let me know if you need more info. Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?
-==-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-=- I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.
Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

Hmmm... what exactly does that mean? Who is paying for it? How much will the bill be?
It means I side swiped my sons truck in my driveway at slow speed and scuffed up the paint on the right rear quarter panel and my insurance is paying for the repairs/paint right now. When I go to trade it it will look brand new.

Ouch.
It is always difficult to price things like this without laying hands on it. With the resprayed panel and pending carfax ding, I’m going to hit it at about $31k-$32k. That’s not to say you won’t get lucky and a UCM will totally lose his/her mind and give you 35. I certainly wouldn’t if it were me, though.

stickguy · June 2019

Remote start is one option I can guarantee I would never, ever use.

tjc78 · June 2019

If you have a garage it's really not needed. I use it occasionally in the winter if there is frost on the windows. On a crazy hot day I've been known to start it with the phone app from my office about 5 minutes before I leave because I'm a wuss who hates to be hot.

kyfdx · June 2019

stickguy said:
Remote start is one option I can guarantee I would never, ever use.

ditto

nyccarguy · June 2019

Billwnh said:

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

henryn said:

qbrozen said:

Billwnh said:

Hi all,

I am looking to see what the real world trade in value is on the following truck. I pulled KBB but want to see what folks here think.

2017 Chevy Silverado Crewcab, 4x4,
LTZ trim level,
black
Z71
Sunroof
17xxx miles

It's in very good condition

Zip = 03894

Looking to trade towards a new Ram

Thanks and let me know if you need more info.

Bill

Which engine?
any past paintwork?
any bad news on carfax?
-==-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I was going to say, the engine would almost have to be the 5.3L. But ... it could possibly be the 6.2L, not very likely, but could be.

Again, sorry. 5.3 liter V8. It is having some minor paint work done right now on the right rear quarterpanel. Minor scuffing that needs to be touched up.

Hmmm... what exactly does that mean? Who is paying for it? How much will the bill be?

It means I side swiped my sons truck in my driveway at slow speed and scuffed up the paint on the right rear quarter panel and my insurance is paying for the repairs/paint right now. When I go to trade it it will look brand new.

He's just trying to get all of the information he can so he can give you an accurate trade in value for your truck. We aren't trying to break chops or be snarky.

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