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jmonroe1 · September 2019

sda said:
I like Rock Auto as well. I order wiper blades, air, cabin filters and more from them. In the past I did a lot of repairs myself, but now pretty much limit to filter, wiper, and cosmetics, wash, wax, interior.

I mentioned this before, Son #1 swears by Rock Auto and when I needed wiper blades for my '09 Genny he suggested that I go to them. They didn't come through for me and screwed up my wiper blade order twice. After that I went to the dealer.

Now I have a question for you guys. Does anyone remember a good while ago, at least a year ago, when someone in here complained about something they got from some company that wasn't right and someone from the customer service dept. at that company must have been lurking in here and responded about what our poster buddy should do to get his problem resolved? Does anyone remember that?

jmonroe

stickguy · September 2019

I would replace the belt if it was off anyway. rule of thumb, if it is a wear item and the part is cheap but labor expensive, do it. Tensioner, if it is questionable, just get it over with.

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

jmonroe1 said:

sda said:
I like Rock Auto as well. I order wiper blades, air, cabin filters and more from them. In the past I did a lot of repairs myself, but now pretty much limit to filter, wiper, and cosmetics, wash, wax, interior.
I mentioned this before, Son #1 swears by Rock Auto and when I needed wiper blades for my '09 Genny he suggested that I go to them. They didn't come through for me and screwed up my wiper blade order twice. After that I went to the dealer.

Now I have a question for you guys. Does anyone remember a good while ago, at least a year ago, when someone in here complained about something they got from some company that wasn't right and someone from the customer service dept. at that company must have been lurking in here and responded about what our poster buddy should do to get his problem resolved? Does anyone remember that?

jmonroe

I’m usually a repository of trivia like that but I’m drawing a blank, sorry.

driver100 · September 2019

jmonroe1 said:

sda said:
I like Rock Auto as well. I order wiper blades, air, cabin filters and more from them. In the past I did a lot of repairs myself, but now pretty much limit to filter, wiper, and cosmetics, wash, wax, interior.
I mentioned this before, Son #1 swears by Rock Auto and when I needed wiper blades for my '09 Genny he suggested that I go to them. They didn't come through for me and screwed up my wiper blade order twice. After that I went to the dealer.

Now I have a question for you guys. Does anyone remember a good while ago, at least a year ago, when someone in here complained about something they got from some company that wasn't right and someone from the customer service dept. at that company must have been lurking in here and responded about what our poster buddy should do to get his problem resolved? Does anyone remember that?

jmonroe

I think a customer service rep from Cadillac was lurking when GG had his problems....offered to help but that went nowhere.
No divine intervention for your wiper blades. That's another reason to stay with more mainstream cars, easier to get the right parts

stickguy · September 2019

another reason that a "wannabe luxury" Acura is nice. Last year when the wipers were noisy and skipping I just went to WallyWorld to pick up a new pair, and they worked great. Wife was really happy. And they were cheap.

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

stickguy said:
another reason that a "wannabe luxury" Acura is nice. Last year when the wipers were noisy and skipping I just went to WallyWorld to pick up a new pair, and they worked great. Wife was really happy. And they were cheap.

What’s the definition of luxury? An Acura looks plenty luxurious to me.

bwia · September 2019

Oh, Canada you stole my joy and left me in mourning. With that being said, congratulations to Bianca Andreescu who stunned Serena Williams with a 6-2, 7-5 victory to capture the 2019 US Open title. Tennis fans were expecting a Serena coronation but it was not to be. The young and charismatic Bianca brought Serena (and the visiting Duchess) to tears with her powerful ground strokes and well placed serves.

Once again, great job Bianca, stay grounded and continue to make Canada and womens' tennis proud.

graphicguy · September 2019

Interesting how things turn. I remember how the auto companies fighting tooth and nail new MPG Regs and pollution standards. Now, they’re for them. California led the way in those efforts.

The current technologies that help small 4 cyl, fuel efficient engines, with the power of V6 and V8s of yore was fueled by those regs.

Plus, the drivetrains today, with 8,9 and even 10 speed automatics, in addition to CVTs contribute greatly to those efforts.

It looks like California is leading the way, again. Only this time, they have the backing of the auto manufacturers.

This has never been more critical than it is now, given the direct links of climate change tha recently manifested itself in DORIAN.

houdini2 · September 2019

Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.

ab348 · September 2019

Speaking of Dorian, it arrived here yesterday. A large storm in that it affected most of Nova Scotia to some extent, and it made landfall about 30 miles west of here. We got 3 to 4 inches of rain and wind gusts of perhaps 80mph, but locally it was not as intense as Hurricane Juan of 2003 that did much more damage here, though there is damage over a much wider area this time. I emerged unscathed except that power has been off for 22 hours so far which is a pain. Our power utility here is notorious for frequent outages so this is no surprise.

imidazol97 · September 2019

ab348 said:
Speaking of Dorian, it arrived here yesterday. A large storm in that it affected most of Nova Scotia to some extent, and it made landfall about 30 miles west of here. We got 3 to 4 inches of rain and wind gusts of perhaps 80mph, but locally it was not as intense as Hurricane Juan of 2003 that did much more damage here, though there is damage over a much wider area this time. I emerged unscathed except that power has been off for 22 hours so far which is a pain. Our power utility here is notorious for frequent outages so this is no surprise.

Glad you found it not the worst of hurricanes. You'd not know that from the general media coverage. It's always cute seeing a youngster doing weather reports here on TV in the midwest with a broadcasting trade school course in how to talk weather on TV act like an expert on macro effects and about hurricanes, cause and behavior.

Our friends who had lived on Folly Beach in Charleston said this hurricane was not as drastic as it was hyped. In fact, His Folly Beach friends stayed in their house on the island. During The previous recent major hurricane a, was it Irma, the Folly Beach folks went to TN to their brother's home for the storm. They were invited to go to my friend's place in far upstate SC but went to relative's larger home.

ab348 · September 2019

We had similar problems here with media posting on FB/Twitter (and presumably TV which I couldn’t watch w/o power) not just yesterday but in the days prior. This storm seemed to flummox even usually reliable meteorologists both in its approach and then with its behaviour once it arrived. They kept switching its strength from Cat 1 to 2, going back and forth several times, and then after it made landfall warned that the worst was yet to come (it wasn’t). While I suppose nothing could match the buildup it received beforehand it really was nowhere near what the media would have you believe. That was made even worse by non-weather media folks taking a weather statement and then adding their own spin to it to make it more dramatic and dire. The unnecessary anxiety I’m sure that generated was not good. A newsreader or reporter shouldn’t be speculating without a basis in fact or training.

driver100 · September 2019

houdini2 said:
Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.

Well, it only costs $5000!

https://youtu.be/1xNb2n9igiA

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

houdini2 said:
Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.

Could this be what you’re thinking about?

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/ford-water-pump-class-action-lawsuit.shtml

Affected vehicles:

https://www.ktmc.com/ford-lincoln-water-pump-engine-failure?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyIGOiOHB5AIVT1qGCh1gdAcOEAAYASAAEgIV2_D_BwE

From what I’ve read Ford designed some engines with internal water pumps which if they failed trashed the engine with coolant. No warning since the pump was hidden.

What were they thinking?

Chrysler had the same issue with the 2.7L V6 and I recall a friend of my son having an 80s Caddy which blew an internal water pump wrecking the engine.

You’d think they’d learn.

kyfdx · September 2019

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:
Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.
Well, it only costs $5000!
https://youtu.be/1xNb2n9igiA

Hey, that's our local news!

driver100 · September 2019

kyfdx said:

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:
Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.
Well, it only costs $5000!
https://youtu.be/1xNb2n9igiA
Hey, that's our local news!

Hope it wasn't your car!

stickguy · September 2019

that's a Flex. XWESX is probably tracking it down right now to bring back to AK

imidazol97 · September 2019

Interesting fast market place where I get coffee.
Looked in my rear view mirror while drinking my coffee this morning, and I saw this.
Frequently see classics fueling up at this location.

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

This is the season for cruising those old cars. Many don’t have AC or the old systems don’t work. I often wonder what those owners have to do to run on unleaded ethanol gas.

roadburner · September 2019

oldfarmer50 said:
This is the season for cruising those old cars. Many don’t have AC or the old systems don’t work. I often wonder what those owners have to do to run on unleaded ethanol gas.

Worst case scenario is having to pull the head(s) and install hardened valve seats.

fintail · September 2019

Never could stand those mirrored headlights.

Fun fact about old MBs, they can take unleaded without conversion.

ab348 · September 2019

The unleaded usually isn't a problem unless you have a older engine under heavy load or turning high RPMs. The ethanol is a much bigger problem for old cars. It can degrade hoses internally, dissolve older seals and O-rings (or deposits that were sealing leaks!) and generally mess up older carbs.

The headlight shields are like spotlights - some people seem to thoink every cool car in the '50s/'60s had them. I am not a fan of either. But just as bad is the newer trend to install LED "angel-eye" sealed-beam equivalents which I really dislike.

ab348 · September 2019

Forgot to mention - power here is back on after just over 24 hours.

roadburner · September 2019

fintail said:
Never could stand those mirrored headlights.

Fun fact about old MBs, they can take unleaded without conversion.

Ditto for BMWs.

abacomike · September 2019

Today, I was a guest in a skybox at the Dolphins game - good thing my friend drove down to Miami because all I did was drink beer on tap and eat finger foods - the 59-10 romp by Baltimore left us with nothing else to do but get drunk and fat.

But I did get home early enough to see one of the best US OPEN Men’s Finals on ESPN. Nadal was great - but Medvedev came from behind to make it a 5 set match. Best ever!

sb55 · September 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

houdini2 said:
Did I see somewhere recently that it cost $15,000. to replace a water pump on certain Ford vehicles, or was that a joke.
Could this be what you’re thinking about?

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/ford-water-pump-class-action-lawsuit.shtml

Affected vehicles:

https://www.ktmc.com/ford-lincoln-water-pump-engine-failure?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyIGOiOHB5AIVT1qGCh1gdAcOEAAYASAAEgIV2_D_BwE

From what I’ve read Ford designed some engines with internal water pumps which if they failed trashed the engine with coolant. No warning since the pump was hidden.

What were they thinking?

Chrysler had the same issue with the 2.7L V6 and I recall a friend of my son having an 80s Caddy which blew an internal water pump wrecking the engine.

You’d think they’d learn.

My friend, Mike W., owns carcomplaints.com. He drives a Jeep and his wife drives a 4Runner. I don't troll that site, but it's useful when looking to buy.

ab348 · September 2019

Last from me on Hurricane Dorian: power outages today dropped below 200K accounts across Nova Scotia but those folks might be a while as the biggest/easiest ones were connected first. Now they are down to street blocks where trees took out poles and lines, so it will be a slog.

Last night a local real estate lady posted some pics on FB of Peggy's Cove at the height of the storm. They look like made up pics but I have reason to believe they are legit having seen shots like this from that location in the past.

bwia · September 2019

The Golden Ray, a cargo ship (built in 2017) capsized off the coast of Georgia. The ship was carrying approximately 4,200 vehicles. Does anybody know what type of vehicles it was carrying and are they salvageable?

According to Reuters, Hyundai and Kia vehicles were the cargo on board; the Korea Herald said the vehicles were headed to the Middle East for export and that some were Kia Motors cars while others were from "other global carmakers."

stickguy · September 2019

Always sad. I assume they are all a total loss.

sb55 · September 2019

ab348 said:
Last from me on Hurricane Dorian: power outages today dropped below 200K accounts across Nova Scotia but those folks might be a while as the biggest/easiest ones were connected first. Now they are down to street blocks where trees took out poles and lines, so it will be a slog.

Last night a local real estate lady posted some pics on FB of Peggy's Cove at the height of the storm. They look like made up pics but I have reason to believe they are legit having seen shots like this from that location in the past.

WOW. Some wave!

snakeweasel · September 2019

bwia said:
The Golden Ray, a cargo ship (built in 2017) capsized off the coast of Georgia. The ship was carrying approximately 4,200 vehicles. Does anybody know what type of vehicles it was carrying and are they salvageable?

According to Reuters, Hyundai and Kia vehicles were the cargo on board; the Korea Herald said the vehicles were headed to the Middle East for export and that some were Kia Motors cars while others were from "other global carmakers."

While I can't tell you what cars they were i can tell you they are not salvageable. #1. They are soaked in salt water. 2. They had to have suffered damage when they hit the sea floor. #3. I would hazard to say that at a depth of between 200 and 250 feet structural damage would start from the water pressure. and 4# the cost of recovering the vehicles would cost more than they could ever get for them.

suydam · September 2019

A bigger issue is rescuing the crew

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

stickguy said:
Always sad. I assume they are all a total loss.

They’ll be on CL next week as “extra clean”.

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

suydam said:
A bigger issue is rescuing the crew

They rescued all but 4 who were trapped in the hull. Of the 4 I understand 3 have been saved with one still trapped in the engine room but they’re hopeful he can be saved too.

Just heard that the coast crewman is rescued.

As to salvage, it looks like the ship is sitting on it’s side with over half the hull above water. As long as the cars didn’t break loose, some of them may be salvageable.

bwia · September 2019

In auto pilot mode, a Tesla driver is asleep behind wheel on the Mass Turnpike Route I-90 going at 60 mph. Well, here is your proof of concept. Auto pilot really works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQo-26k7Zbg

stickguy · September 2019

they got the last of the crew out. Now can deal with getting the ship out of there somehow.

snakeweasel · September 2019

oldfarmer50 said:

suydam said:
A bigger issue is rescuing the crew
They rescued all but 4 who were trapped in the hull. Of the 4 I understand 3 have been saved with one still trapped in the engine room but they’re hopeful he can be saved too.

Just heard that the coast crewman is rescued.

As to salvage, it looks like the ship is sitting on it’s side with over half the hull above water. As long as the cars didn’t break loose, some of them may be salvageable.

I didn't see pictures when I first posted, my question now is where were the cars stowed on the ship?

stickguy · September 2019

multiple decks, side to side.

snakeweasel · September 2019

looked it up it's a vehicle carrier which means that the cars were secured but likely secured for normal to heavy seas. A capsizing or in this case a partial capsize I would suspect a good number of cars broke from their tiedowns and many are under water. I would suspect that many are toast.

stickguy · September 2019

plus, they still have to get the ship towed to shore and stabilized (rotate it upright?) to even think about getting the cars out. stuff must be flying about all over in there doing that. Plus getting soaked.

they are not salvaging salable units out of that mess.

oldfarmer50 · September 2019

snakeweasel said:
looked it up it's a vehicle carrier which means that the cars were secured but likely secured for normal to heavy seas. A capsizing or in this case a partial capsize I would suspect a good number of cars broke from their tiedowns and many are under water. I would suspect that many are toast.

Probably the fire that occurred when the ship capsized was from tumbling cars bursting into flames. Toast indeed.

driver100 · September 2019

I read the cars were Hyundais....going to the Middle East.
Who would have thought one of those ships could carry 4000 cars!

stickguy · September 2019

that is a CRX. pull it out, and still probably get $2k out of it.

abacomike · September 2019

driver100 said:
I read the cars were Hyundais....going to the Middle East.
Who would have thought one of those ships could carry 4000 cars!

I had the privilege of being given a guided tour of a vehicle transport ship in Brunswick, GA, several years ago. The ship I toured had just recently arrived with s shipload of BMW’s. There were many decks - not very high from floor to roof of each deck. Cars were tied down with heavy chains to the floor. The capacity was well over 4500 vehicles. When cars are unloaded, they formed a circular chain bumper to bumper on the dock.

Amazing is all I can say!

snakeweasel · September 2019

driver100 said:
I read the cars were Hyundais....going to the Middle East.
Who would have thought one of those ships could carry 4000 cars!

According to Vessel finder she was on her way to Baltimore, MD. Maybe to pick up more cargo?

driver100 · September 2019

Fascinating to see how they load the cars on to a ship. They are 4 inches apart....driver can only open the door of the last car parked. Drivers are taken by van back to get more cars. Now there is a fun job! Worth 2 minutes to see how they do it.

https://youtu.be/u_OSnioeFjY

imidazol97 · September 2019

Speaking of cars... why is this BMW on the hook in midair?

It went swimming.

More pictures here. There was a swimmer in the pool. Swimmer was also hurt.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/photos-car-crashes-through-fitness-center-window-and-then-into-pool/ebxId2tZPYQLEAVeH8eZEM/

https://www.whio.com/news/local/reports-car-submerged-pool-after-crashing-into-centerville-fitness-location/SJLKo7L6JeS9TlrsHXI5QP/

driver100 · September 2019

Some of my tennis guys were talking about memory yesterday. This was something I was amazed at, but didn't think anyone else thought about it. We decided really good car salesmen have terrific memories!

I last saw my sales rep about 2 years ago. I saw him working at his desk when I was there for service, and I thought I would say hello, and I started to explain who I was and he said he knew who I was and he asked me how Mrs D was (by name). I would be terrible at being able to do that.

Mike....do you have a good memory for people's names? Are there some tricks you can use to recall who someone is?

imidazol97 · September 2019

Can anyone recognize what it says in the bumper stickers on the trunk of this BMW?
I only see them while it's in the pool; no other pictures show the trunk.

stickguy · September 2019

Driver, I’m lucky I remember names of my relatives. Their cars, those I remember.

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