Real-World Trade-In Values

steine13 · February 2020

Duh. Didn't even think of that...it's iffy but might fly...thanks guys!

explorerx4 · February 2020

You could probably snap it back into place with something 'L' shaped(small Allen wrench?

tifighter · February 2020

Well, all this action on the CCBA side made me look at the trade in values for the X for fun, and some of the numbers I'm seeing from KBB and NADA are silly. And Carvana won't even give a value at all. I found one used one on the west coast, with an asking price that was more than I paid for mine new. So, are there any auction comps for a 2018 Model X P100D, with ludicrous plus (most should have this), red over black five seater with 9k miles?

28firefighter · February 2020

To get what? You have probably the fastest SUV available...

kyfdx · February 2020

28firefighter said:
To get what? You have probably the fastest SUV available...

I don't think he needs an excuse...

qbrozen · February 2020

tifighter said:
Well, all this action on the CCBA side made me look at the trade in values for the X for fun, and some of the numbers I'm seeing from KBB and NADA are silly. And Carvana won't even give a value at all. I found one used one on the west coast, with an asking price that was more than I paid for mine new. So, are there any auction comps for a 2018 Model X P100D, with ludicrous plus (most should have this), red over black five seater with 9k miles?

There are comps, but they vary greatly. To be safe, I'd imagine you'd get offers in the $85k-$87k range. Won't Tesla buy it back?

explorerx4 · February 2020

Sometimes, it's 'I tried it, now I'm going to try something else'.

tifighter · February 2020

28firefighter said:
To get what? You have probably the fastest SUV available...

Probably?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ye7Vh-_b50&

stickguy · February 2020

I see 2 SUVs racing 2 hatchbacks.

tifighter · February 2020

qbrozen said:

tifighter said:
Well, all this action on the CCBA side made me look at the trade in values for the X for fun, and some of the numbers I'm seeing from KBB and NADA are silly. And Carvana won't even give a value at all. I found one used one on the west coast, with an asking price that was more than I paid for mine new. So, are there any auction comps for a 2018 Model X P100D, with ludicrous plus (most should have this), red over black five seater with 9k miles?
There are comps, but they vary greatly. To be safe, I'd imagine you'd get offers in the $85k-$87k range. Won't Tesla buy it back?

Thanks Q.

As some of you may recall, I got quite a deal on a demo last year. I was curious on value because as it sits, I could move on and pretty much match what I paid for it. A year of free use is always worth mulling over. I do think X values will take a hit when the Y comes out, as there will actually be an alternative on the market.

Oh, and yes, Tesla would be an option for trade, but they use the same values everyone else does.

stickguy · February 2020

Having to warm up for an hour before running? That is absurd.

At least the others will catch up at the first fuel stop!

tifighter · February 2020

I can always count on Stick to have something loaded up for any X post.

xwesx · February 2020

tifighter said:
Well, all this action on the CCBA side made me look at the trade in values for the X for fun, and some of the numbers I'm seeing from KBB and NADA are silly. And Carvana won't even give a value at all. I found one used one on the west coast, with an asking price that was more than I paid for mine new. So, are there any auction comps for a 2018 Model X P100D, with ludicrous plus (most should have this), red over black five seater with 9k miles?

Not sure that all that add-on stuff counts. You know that Tesla will just take it away from the buyer because "they didn't pay for it."

tifighter · February 2020

xwesx said:

tifighter said:
Well, all this action on the CCBA side made me look at the trade in values for the X for fun, and some of the numbers I'm seeing from KBB and NADA are silly. And Carvana won't even give a value at all. I found one used one on the west coast, with an asking price that was more than I paid for mine new. So, are there any auction comps for a 2018 Model X P100D, with ludicrous plus (most should have this), red over black five seater with 9k miles?
Not sure that all that add-on stuff counts. You know that Tesla will just take it away from the buyer because "they didn't pay for it."

It's okay, neither did I.

stickguy · February 2020

For a friend....

What would be a fair price on a CPO RDX? Looks like ex service loaner. 2020 AWD tech package. Gunmetal dark gray over espresso, 4,900 miles. Just serviced. I service date 10/4/19. In scenic S. Joisey.

28firefighter · February 2020

stickguy said:
For a friend....

What would be a fair price on a CPO RDX? Looks like ex service loaner. 2020 AWD tech package. Gunmetal dark gray over espresso, 4,900 miles. Just serviced. I service date 10/4/19. In scenic S. Joisey.

FYI - let your friend know that Acura now allows loaner leases with < 5000 miles. They don't look like BMW loaner leases but you never know - could be worth exploring...

stickguy · February 2020

Interesting. Thanks. I don’t think we plan to lease though. Would be buying to keep a long time. At least through the warranty. 6.5+ years on this one with CPO

qbrozen · February 2020

stickguy said:
For a friend....

What would be a fair price on a CPO RDX? Looks like ex service loaner. 2020 AWD tech package. Gunmetal dark gray over espresso, 4,900 miles. Just serviced. I service date 10/4/19. In scenic S. Joisey.

trading at auction for around $37k. Fair for CPO? ehhh... I guess $41k wouldn't kill anyone.

28firefighter · February 2020

stickguy said:
Interesting. Thanks. I don’t think we plan to lease though. Would be buying to keep a long time. At least through the warranty. 6.5+ years on this one with CPO

You? or a friend?

pensfan83 · February 2020

I would recommend your "friend" try out the touchpad interface as well, I've read mixed reviews on its integration.

stickguy · February 2020

If played with the touch pad a little. Need to have the wife try it too. Hopefully just a learning curve. Plus, I doubt she would use it too much but I need to explore more.

Looks like the $38,800 list price isn’t too bad! But it is at the dealer I hated when getting my car.

Different dealer in PA has same car in gunmetal lighter gray over grayscale, a more acceptable color combo for the boss, listed at about 40 even.

Sandman6472 · February 2020

Ouch! 40 large for a new vehicle is way way more than I'd ever want to spend. Going up to 30 large gives me the willies to be honest. That's why VW really needs to get their regular Golf SE over here so I can check it out. Wonder if Mini Cooper has demos to sell? Love the Countryman with certain alloys they have. Just absolutely blows me away!

stickguy · February 2020

it is a bit of a splurge, but we deserve it. The GTI will be under 30k for at least the basic models. Somehow I just don't think you would be happy with a mini.

nyccarguy · February 2020

Sandy

Have you ever driven a Civic Hatchback?

robbieg · February 2020

stickguy said:
it is a bit of a splurge, but we deserve it. The GTI will be under 30k for at least the basic models. Somehow I just don't think you would be happy with a mini.

If you look on Autotrader, there are 2019 GTI's for sale for 22 and change. Not sure if there are any incentives that you have to qualify for or not.

pensfan83 · February 2020

Helping a friend of mind find a new car for his parents after their Kia was totaled in an accident (not their fault).

Not sure what the CPO adds in value, but low miles. Thanks much!

https://www.southhillslincolnofpittsburgh.com/certified/Lincoln/2017-Lincoln-MKZ-in-Pittsburgh-PA-4e8db0ba0a0e0ae87ce6a9d6b4a7fc42.htm?searchDepth=1:14

qbrozen · February 2020

pensfan83 said:
Helping a friend of mind find a new car for his parents after their Kia was totaled in an accident (not their fault).

Not sure what the CPO adds in value, but low miles. Thanks much!

https://www.southhillslincolnofpittsburgh.com/certified/Lincoln/2017-Lincoln-MKZ-in-Pittsburgh-PA-4e8db0ba0a0e0ae87ce6a9d6b4a7fc42.htm?searchDepth=1:14

IIRC, they wanted $800 to CPO my Lincoln, but that was a LONG time ago. Worth somewhere in the mid-16s. Prob safe to assume they are in it for about $17.5k, so the $20k asking is pretty fair.

They have been sitting on it since early Nov, though, so could be they are into it for even more, but past sales don't dictate current market.

robbieg · February 2020

pensfan83 said:
Helping a friend of mind find a new car for his parents after their Kia was totaled in an accident (not their fault).

Not sure what the CPO adds in value, but low miles. Thanks much!

https://www.southhillslincolnofpittsburgh.com/certified/Lincoln/2017-Lincoln-MKZ-in-Pittsburgh-PA-4e8db0ba0a0e0ae87ce6a9d6b4a7fc42.htm?searchDepth=1:14

Washington Ford has a few of these in stock for comparison. Keeping in mind what Q said, it seems as if they are priced pretty good.

xwesx · February 2020

Hertz has gobs of these in their rental fleets. I was standing outside of one for a good five or six minutes in Columbus last fall. They have a nice appearance and look incredibly comfortable inside.

corvette · February 2020

I had one as a rental in Seattle a couple years back. I was very underwhelmed with the V6. Maybe the turbo four is more responsive?

explorerx4 · February 2020

The best part in the winter are the 3 buttons at the bottom of the center stack.
Heated seat buttons on each side and heated steering wheel button in the middle.

corvette · February 2020

explorerx4 said:
The best part in the winter are the 3 buttons at the bottom of the center stack.
Heated seat buttons on each side and heated steering wheel button in the middle.

That silver one doesn't appear to have the heated steering wheel. Could be the lighting, but the paint on the driver's rear door and quarter panel looks to be a different shade.

explorerx4 · February 2020

@corvette,
You're right about it not having a heated steering wheel.
I looked at the sticker and it's a base model Premiere with no options.
Did see the rear door color seeming different, but wasn't sure if it was the pictures.
Carfax doesn't show any accidents(may be accurate) and it wasn't titled until about 4k on it.

roadburner · February 2020

corvette said:

That silver one doesn't appear to have the heated steering wheel. Could be the lighting, but the paint on the driver's rear door and quarter panel looks to be a different shade.

My wife's cars have had heated steering wheels going back to her E39 528i. For some reason her E84 X1 only has heated seats- it's optioned pretty well, but no CWP or H-K. At least the GTS has both.

tjc78 · February 2020

My wife loves her heated steering wheel and I've noticed she actually makes sure she holds the leather part. On our Enclave the wood 1/3 at the top doesn't get heated.

Must have been a common complaint. On our 2015 Enclave it had the top 1/3 of wheel wood and about a 1/6 of the very bottom as well.

The 2017 which is virtually identical only has the top.

stickguy · February 2020

I don't think I used the heated wheel for the first 2 years I had the sonata, then finally put it on once just to say I did. then I was sorry I did not use it before that. I loved that feature. Unfortunately it was the only car we have had that did have one. Next car, that is going to be a, if not required, highly desired feature.

too bad it tends to be a higher end option. So on something like a CRV, you have to spring for the Touring trim. And who knows about the BMW how that would be optioned! at least the Santa Fe limited has everything imaginable thrown in, included heated wheel and ventilated seats!

explorerx4 · February 2020

I don't like wearing gloves when I drive, so heated steering wheel is great.
Usually only put it on for a couple of minutes, then turn it off.

corvette · February 2020

My Murano had one. I could easily feel it even through gloves! The heated seats were weak by comparison.

roadburner · February 2020

The new X1s I drove at work had heated steering wheels that would get very hot.

corvette · February 2020

I got the impression it's one of those things you use for a few minutes on a cold morning, and then turn off for the rest of the drive.

stickguy · February 2020

yes. but those few minutes are just glorious!

28firefighter · February 2020

We used the heated steering wheel in our X1 for as long as we could before we incurred burns. It got very warm.

kyfdx · February 2020

My wife's X3 has the heated wheel. She loves it.

mfish · March 2020

I have a 2017 Honda Accord LX with 35,500 miles. Manual 6 speed transmission. New tires. Some bumper dents/scuffs/damage. Nothing too crazy. Carvana is saying $13,500. Any chance you guys can give me a trade in number i should be shooting for?

Thanks much
Mark

qbrozen · March 2020

mfish said:
I have a 2017 Honda Accord LX with 35,500 miles. Manual 6 speed transmission. New tires. Some bumper dents/scuffs/damage. Nothing too crazy. Carvana is saying $13,500. Any chance you guys can give me a trade in number i should be shooting for?

Thanks much
Mark

Color inside and out? 2 or 4 doors? Any previous paintwork? In which state do you live?

Michaell · March 2020

My sister and her son have found this 20+ year old 4Runner - thoughts as to what she should offer? She's thinking to start at $4500, with a cap at $5000:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listingImages/258072576/

Michaell · March 2020

Michaell said:
My sister and her son have found this 20+ year old 4Runner - thoughts as to what she should offer? She's thinking to start at $4500, with a cap at $5000:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listingImages/258072576/

Whoops, that's the list; here is the specific vehicle:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listing=258072576

explorerx4 · March 2020

@Michaell,
That one is 2WD, so it's a Faux-Runner.

Michaell · March 2020

explorerx4 said:
@Michaell,
That one is 2WD, so it's a Faux-Runner.

In SoCal, no real reason to get 4WD, but I like your word play.

qbrozen · March 2020

Michaell said:

Michaell said:
My sister and her son have found this 20+ year old 4Runner - thoughts as to what she should offer? She's thinking to start at $4500, with a cap at $5000:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listingImages/258072576/
Whoops, that's the list; here is the specific vehicle:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listing=258072576

Trade-in values mean nothing on such a vehicle. Buyer needs to decide what he/she is willing to pay. A dealer would only pay maybe $1500 for it, if that. Of course, that is a dealer. $4k?

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