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qbrozen · March 2020

wildcat is pretty cool for the $$.

If they consider the interior of that R32 clean, I'd hate to see what they consider dirty.

omarman · March 2020

When I was in jr high there was a HS senior named Randall with a 2 door version of that Wildcat. Great daily driver back then. I like the 4 door HT too. Somebody wants it.

qbrozen · March 2020

some cool stuff at their website, though. I actually really like this. Looks like a shrunken Bentley. ha.

https://youtu.be/S4Q8JB6hGoM

color on this is gorgeous.

https://youtu.be/3ebeN7EbfeU

fintail · March 2020

If the 442 is a local car and has been cared for, I'd wager there's no real rust.

My driver's ed car was a blue Acclaim almost identical to that Spirit. It was nearly new then.

Looks like the Ford pickup and 240D automatic might have sold, deleted already.

qbrozen · March 2020

Now you've got me poking around for imports again.

Can't really say why, but I think I'd dig having one of these. https://www.duncanimports.com/used/Toyota/1991-Toyota-Century-f63b8c2b0a0e08ba63cbe05598e7141b.htm

nice colors on this one. https://www.duncanimports.com/used/Toyota/1991-Toyota-Century-1d30eefb0a0e08bd791b55ac9f3c80f4.htm

fintail · March 2020

I like the Century too, a lot of car for the money.

IIRC in 2 years the V12s will be available for import, might be worth waiting for, and the prior ones will become even cheaper.

qbrozen · March 2020

is the v12 really the way to go?
4.0 v8 seems to be the way to go, no? Is that any relation to the 4.0 v8 used in the LS400 here? Because that thing is bulletproof.

fintail · March 2020

It's a Toyota, it has to be flawless, right?

I don't think it is the LS engine.

With the prices on these, you'll probably be able to get both for 20K combined.

fintail · March 2020

FB marketplace suggested this project for me, all I can think is "good gawd". Seller's feed might also hint at a little delusion.

tjc78 · March 2020

This is pretty nice, but am I being critical that the wiring under hood looks a little scary. Lots of crimp connects, etc.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-jeep-grand-wagoneer-32/

qbrozen · March 2020

I like it. But $35k of work? Man, they saw him coming!

I can't imagine paying more than $15k for it, frankly. But I'm sure the BAT crowd will surpass that big time. I'll take a WAG that the bidding goes to $25k or so.

explorerx4 · March 2020

Those Wagoneer's have a following.
Here is a place in Texas that specializes in them.
Be firmly secured to your chair if you decide to click the link.

https://wagonmaster.com/collections/vehicles

ab348 · March 2020

Here is a strange one, and on Hemmings auctions no less. They started the auction site as a clear competitor to BaT but don't seem to be attracting much interest. Having cars like this doesn't help them much.

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1970-oldsmobile-cutlass

It's a '70 Cutlass according to the VIN. It has been modified to be a 4-4-2 "tribute", which I always found distasteful but whatever, lots of people do things like that. Of course that is just cosmetic in this case as it still has the 350 under the hood. But wait, there's more!

The VIN says 1970, but that is a '71 front clip and hood. So is the rear end and taillights. The outside mirrors are '71 also, as the '70 version were different and hard to find. The interior is a mishmash of 1970, '71, and '72 bits. And the engine is not a 1970 either according to the cylinder heads.

Apparently this car has been offered on FB Marketplace for $25K with no takers obviously. It appears to be a nice enough rebuild but who really knows what it is other than a real Frankenstein?

sda · March 2020

I don’t recall any 70-72 Cutlass without ac not having vent blanks where the ac vents would have been. It is also lacking the rounded chrome strip trim that went the length of the upper dash. Aftermarket replacement?

ab348 · March 2020

For '71/'72 at least some of them without AC had a dash like the one shown without blanks. I don't recall ever seeing one without the plastichrome strip though. It is available repro too, so maybe the guy forgot to order one.

sda · March 2020

That plastichrome strip always irked me on mom’s 72 Cutlass Supreme. It sagged in places and didn’t fit tightly. The glove box door on my grandmother’s 68 Cutlass S and mom’s 72 Cutlass both fit poorly to the dash, with one corner always ticking out. This was when they were new. Thankfully that type of poor fit is rarely seen today. Otherwise they were both fine cars and fondly remembered.

explorerx4 · March 2020

Not a huge fan of vinyl roof cars, that one looks pretty nice, depending on how the auction and an inspection goes.

tjc78 · March 2020

South Jersey Craigs... Fintail Style

Fox
Diesel Tax
Nova
Great deal for cheap wheels
Nice, but wrong venue
Need to be much braver than me
Overpriced a bit?
Interesting top
Package Deal

texases · March 2020

Instant Edsel collection! Of course, no idea what you'd be getting for that $4000...2 photos for 3 cars???

kyfdx · March 2020

I like the Audi, but that is a boat load of miles.

omarman · March 2020

Along with the "Diesel Tax" seller could list it on BaT and leave nothing on the table!

Click on this old newspaper link and scroll down to see this ad:

fintail · March 2020

Those old diesels are getting a cult. Price is ahead of market, but maybe not insanely so.

Edsels are done, parts now, but low demand, so expensive parts.

Audi would be Russian roulette - you might win. By this point, everything that can fail (which is about 90% of the parts on one of these, right) must have been replaced.

Mustang could be fair given it is a manual.

Unless it has dexcool issues (did they exist that year?), old Buick is a steal of course.

stickguy · March 2020

I would be willing to give the Mustang a look. But that is way up in N. Jersey, not down here in S. Jersey!

fintail · March 2020

As the Project Cars thread is also one for high priced cars, here are some from the recent Retro Classics event in Stuttgart. First, a nice low mileage (~30K miles) 220S - 57.5K Euro:

Nice 300SE, I think the price is 89K Euro:

And offered by the MB Classic Center, a top quality low grille 280SE 3.5 coupe in an amazing color. Yes, that big number is the price:

sda · March 2020

I’ll take the blue one, awesome!

omarman · March 2020

That blue car is beautiful but the fine print below the Big Number warns: "Dashboard Bobblehead Not Included."

stickguy · March 2020

holy moley. $380,000 for that? wow.

fintail · March 2020

I think only sedans have bobbleheads

380K Euro, so just north of $400K USD. That's for a virtual 100 point car restored by the factory, effectively better than new (and they price high anyway).

fintail · March 2020

This thing has popped up in a local estate sale listing. 69K indicated miles, no other info, could be a good car for someone, looks properly equipped:

qbrozen · March 2020

grab it

tjc78 · March 2020

That's the holy grail 03-04. Definitely retail spec, hard loaded and unless the wheels were changed it has the handling package. That is rarely seen on 03+.

Mine had all the goodies, but no handling package.

I'm not a fan of the exterior color, but wouldn't snub my nose at it.

fintail · March 2020

I wonder what it will go for. I thought the wheels and interior looked good, and I'm a sucker for a digital dash.

Maybe I should email the estate company and try to get a price. They just updated the listing - it's an 04.

Not much else at the sale I'd remotely want.

tjc78 · March 2020

Even better that it's an 04. 2003 had the soft axles.

I would say it's worth $5,000 to someone.

fintail · March 2020

I have nowhere to keep it and shouldn't spend the money, but that car is tempting somehow - I think I've been watching too many YouTube videos.

ab348 · March 2020

Wouldn't hurt to find out the price.

fintail · March 2020

I sent the seller a message just for kicks. I suspect it's either a bargain or they want the moon for it - I've seen both on estate cars.

tjc78 · March 2020

I like that one, but there is something about the 95 on BAT right now that @stickguy posted in CCBA.

fintail · March 2020

Got a price on that Grand Marq. They claim the tires are new new, doesn't have a ding or a chip etc. They are "asking" $5800 "OBO" for it, although in the local chaos around here and for the fact that these estate companies need to get rid of everything, I bet it could be had for a bit less at the end of the sale, assuming it doesn't sell.

tjc78 · March 2020

So, I was pretty close on my 5k value. Well worth it IMO.

xwesx · March 2020

tjc78 said:
So, I was pretty close on my 5k value. Well worth it IMO.

Well done, fanboy.

fintail · March 2020

I bet if I showed up with 45 C-notes, I could drive away in it. Seems like a lot of car for the money.

qbrozen · March 2020

Dealer would list that for $8k easy in these parts.

fintail · March 2020

Quick 20th century CL browse:

Real truck

Another real truck

Strongly downsized survivor

Cool flashback, unfortunate clearcoat fail probably means not a local car

Supercharged

Little Kia

Cool, venue couldn't be more wrong

Flamboyant

It's in the right neighborhood, one would think they'd not use a 1980 film camera

It'll be stolen

Manx Cat Frankencar

Seems reasonable these days

Someone else babied one

4 something 4 something 2 something else

Just right for Del Boca Vista

Clattery non-parallel lines, has to be rare

Short one

Long one

Ultra Vista

tjc78 · March 2020

Aerostar is such an oddity to see in that condition

Baby Caddy, why do they always seem low in the rear? Blah colors

442 - love it awesome color

BMW .. sure go for it. I’m sure that handles great with that boat anchor now up front

Love the TC same combo as my 89. Cloth in 95 is rare.

qbrozen · March 2020

Love the 442, but appears to have been repainted, which doesn’t align with the “barn find” claim. Unless the author meant “we once found it but have since messed with it.”

Lots of questions about that Delta. Can’t understand if seller is claiming that is an ACTUAL winning racecar.

benjaminh · March 2020

I like that Cadillac. Lotta car and luxury for the money. Low miles. Looks garaged and well taken care of. I realize why I like it so much—it's very similar to my 1988 Oldsmobile 98.

ab348 · March 2020

The '68 4-4-2 not only appears to have been repainted, but the engine raises many questions. The seller's claim that it has the "original 455" is wrong, as '68s came with a 400 ci engine. Also the picture shows it to have blue paint, which means either someone repainted it incorrectly or that it is a later engine that was swapped in. That may not be a bad thing as the '68/'69 400 engine is a bit of a dog and are often replaced with 425s and 455s, but it is not the original.

The colors on the car are nice though and in a combination not often seen.

kyfdx · March 2020

240Z is an automatic...

sda · March 2020

benjaminh said:
I like that Cadillac. Lotta car and luxury for the money. Low miles. Looks garaged and well taken care of. I realize why I like it so much—it's very similar to my 1988 Oldsmobile 98.

That is a handsome interior. Too bad it has the 4.1 V8. I had an 89 Seville with the 4.5. It was a better engine and powered that car nicely.

fintail · March 2020

For some reason, the diesel Fleetwood is the most interesting thing to me from the list. That 85 has to be one of few survivors these days, I remember many of those were looking sad 20 years ago.

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