Real-World Trade-In Values

Michaell · March 2020

qbrozen said:

Michaell said:

Michaell said:
My sister and her son have found this 20+ year old 4Runner - thoughts as to what she should offer? She's thinking to start at $4500, with a cap at $5000:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listingImages/258072576/
Whoops, that's the list; here is the specific vehicle:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=92127&showNegotiable=true&sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip&distance=75&endYear=2002&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d290&startYear=All Years#listing=258072576
Trade-in values mean nothing on such a vehicle. Buyer needs to decide what he/she is willing to pay. A dealer would only pay maybe $1500 for it, if that. Of course, that is a dealer. $4k?

OK, thanks @qbrozen - I'll advise my sister accordingly.

Toyota and SoCal tax, perhaps? Or, first amendment rights with the asking price?

Sandman6472 · March 2020

Yep NY, I have but it's a bit too low for me and hate the egress/ingress part of the equation. And not a lover of Honda audio systems either.

corvette · March 2020

"1997 Toyota 4Runner 4 Dr STD SUV - $5,990"

Price would depend on whether that's something that will clear up with some antibiotics...

andres3 · March 2020

Michaell said:

explorerx4 said:
@Michaell,
That one is 2WD, so it's a Faux-Runner.
In SoCal, no real reason to get 4WD, but I like your word play.

Big Bear is in SoCal, and there's some excellent off-road trails for cars there. The Alltrack explored some of them and did well, but 2WD would not have done well through the muddy melted snow low spot puddles (that were pretty deep).

Michaell · March 2020

andres3 said:

Michaell said:

explorerx4 said:
@Michaell,
That one is 2WD, so it's a Faux-Runner.
In SoCal, no real reason to get 4WD, but I like your word play.
Big Bear is in SoCal, and there's some excellent off-road trails for cars there. The Alltrack explored some of them and did well, but 2WD would not have done well through the muddy melted snow low spot puddles (that were pretty deep).

I've been to Hungry Valley a number of times when I lived in CA. I doubt that my nephew would take it on anything more challenging than an unpaved road.

dad23 · March 2020

Can I get an idea on this one, driving it as we speak

2003 4Runner SR5 RWD
Auto
Gray/gray
171,000 miles
80138
Asking $6500

Thanks!

qbrozen · March 2020

dad23 said:
Can I get an idea on this one, driving it as we speak

2003 4Runner SR5 RWD
Auto
Gray/gray
171,000 miles
80138
Asking $6500

Thanks!

RWD in Colorado? Is that even legal? This is a v6, I assume?

Geesh, it would have to glow in the dark to even fetch $2500 at the block, so I wouldn’t go a penny more than $5k retail if it needs absolutely nothing.

Michaell · March 2020

qbrozen said:

dad23 said:
Can I get an idea on this one, driving it as we speak

2003 4Runner SR5 RWD
Auto
Gray/gray
171,000 miles
80138
Asking $6500

Thanks!
RWD in Colorado? Is that even legal? This is a v6, I assume?

Geesh, it would have to glow in the dark to even fetch $2500 at the block, so I wouldn’t go a penny more than $5k retail if it needs absolutely nothing.

Could be a transplant from a warm weather state...

dad23 · March 2020

Michaell said:

qbrozen said:

dad23 said:
Can I get an idea on this one, driving it as we speak

2003 4Runner SR5 RWD
Auto
Gray/gray
171,000 miles
80138
Asking $6500

Thanks!
RWD in Colorado? Is that even legal? This is a v6, I assume?

Geesh, it would have to glow in the dark to even fetch $2500 at the block, so I wouldn’t go a penny more than $5k retail if it needs absolutely nothing.
Could be a transplant from a warm weather state...

The CARFAX says it’s a Colorado, one owner car. One of the boys was with me and drove it home to show mom. Heard a lot of squealing (brakes?) when accelerating and braking and some sort of clanking noises hitting dips, pulling into driveway. It’s a one price dealer, @Michaell is familiar with them, so no negotiating.

woodyww · March 2020

What is the appeal of this vehicle, exactly? The RWD in Colorado? The squealing (brakes?) & clanking noises? The 171K miles? For $6500??? Q. says $2500 "if perfect" at auction, & this thing ain't perfect.

dad23 · March 2020

woodyww said:
What is the appeal of this vehicle, exactly? The RWD in Colorado? The squealing (brakes?) & clanking noises? The 171K miles? For $6500??? Q. says $2500 "if perfect" at auction, & this thing ain't perfect.

That’s correct, looks great inside and out but that was it. We politely passed, even after we were told it wouldn’t last the weekend, like that’d make me a buyer.

qbrozen · March 2020

dad23 said:

That’s correct, looks great inside and out but that was it. We politely passed, even after we were told it wouldn’t last the weekend, like that’d make me a buyer.

One could interpret that to mean it will die before the weekend is over.

corvette · March 2020

Possible, but more likely that some sucker will pay that price for it.

dad23 · March 2020

Hope I'm not coming to well too often, I'll pace myself, I promise!

2007 4Runner SR5 4WD
White/Gray
V6/Auto
156k miles
Private party - 80138

dillydill · March 2020

Private party in Massachusetts

2013 Subaru Impreza hatchback sport premium
Automatic CVT
90K miles
All service up to date
heated seats/mirrors/wiper de icer
remote start
Weathertech floor mats
Yakima roof rack bars
Black/Black

Asking $9K

What do you think?
Thank you.

qbrozen · March 2020

dad23 said:
Hope I'm not coming to well too often, I'll pace myself, I promise!

2007 4Runner SR5 4WD
White/Gray
V6/Auto
156k miles
Private party - 80138

Condition condition condition.

If it glows in the dark, you could go $8k on it private party. If it has needs, start deducting.

qbrozen · March 2020

dillydill said:
Private party in Massachusetts

2013 Subaru Impreza hatchback sport premium
Automatic CVT
90K miles
All service up to date
heated seats/mirrors/wiper de icer
remote start
Weathertech floor mats
Yakima roof rack bars
Black/Black

Asking $9K

What do you think?
Thank you.

That's quite a good price. About an $8k auction car if no runs/hits/errors.

dad23 · March 2020

qbrozen said:

dad23 said:
Hope I'm not coming to well too often, I'll pace myself, I promise!

2007 4Runner SR5 4WD
White/Gray
V6/Auto
156k miles
Private party - 80138
Condition condition condition.

If it glows in the dark, you could go $8k on it private party. If it has needs, start deducting.

Thanks @qbrozen, won't know true condition until we go look/drive it this evening

xwesx · March 2020

Clunking on bumps is often a sign of bad bushings, which is not surprising at all for a car with 150K+ miles and/or 15+ years old. On most cars, these are all still original and most people never condition the rubber. It is not a major issue, though it is one that should be addressed.

Aging shocks can also increase the severity of the symptom if they are not quick on the recovery. It always amazes me how far people will let shocks go beyond their prime. I find no auto maintenance activity more satisfying than replacing worn shocks; it is almost like buying a new car.

dillydill · March 2020

qbrozen said:

dillydill said:
Private party in Massachusetts

2013 Subaru Impreza hatchback sport premium
Automatic CVT
90K miles
All service up to date
heated seats/mirrors/wiper de icer
remote start
Weathertech floor mats
Yakima roof rack bars
Black/Black

Asking $9K

What do you think?
Thank you.
That's quite a good price. About an $8k auction car if no runs/hits/errors.

Thank you Q!

jmonroe · March 2020

kyfdx said:
My wife's X3 has the heated wheel. She loves it.

xwesx said:
Clunking on bumps is often a sign of bad bushings, which is not surprising at all for a car with 150K+ miles and/or 15+ years old. On most cars, these are all still original and most people never condition the rubber. It is not a major issue, though it is one that should be addressed.

Aging shocks can also increase the severity of the symptom if they are not quick on the recovery. It always amazes me how far people will let shocks go beyond their prime. I find no auto maintenance activity more satisfying than replacing worn shocks; it is almost like buying a new car.

Yeah, kinda better than buying a new battery or 4 new tires. :@

jmonroe

cynic · March 2020

Hi Q,

Can you please let me know what I can expect in a trade in value for 2017 Honda Pilot EXL AWD, Modern Steel/ Grey
1 Owner, 34k, maintenance up to date, good condition in MN?

Thank you in advance!

qbrozen · March 2020

cynic said:
Hi Q,

Can you please let me know what I can expect in a trade in value for 2017 Honda Pilot EXL AWD, Modern Steel/ Grey
1 Owner, 34k, maintenance up to date, good condition in MN?

Thank you in advance!

About $25k

ariaz · March 2020

Can you tell me the trade in and retail on 2014 Lexus GS350. No F sport FWD with 84k miles. Interior is in great shape, some minor scratches on the exterior, no mechanical issues, all services up to date. New tires and battery.

Michaell · March 2020

ariaz said:
Can you tell me the trade in and retail on 2014 Lexus GS350. No F sport FWD with 84k miles. Interior is in great shape, some minor scratches on the exterior, no mechanical issues, all services up to date. New tires and battery.

What is your location?

ariaz · March 2020

Fort Worth, Texas

ariaz · March 2020

Michaell said:

ariaz said:
Can you tell me the trade in and retail on 2014 Lexus GS350. No F sport FWD with 84k miles. Interior is in great shape, some minor scratches on the exterior, no mechanical issues, all services up to date. New tires and battery.
What is your location?

Fort Worth, texas

qbrozen · March 2020

ariaz said:
Can you tell me the trade in and retail on 2014 Lexus GS350. No F sport FWD with 84k miles. Interior is in great shape, some minor scratches on the exterior, no mechanical issues, all services up to date. New tires and battery.

Isn’t the GS RWD?
Anyway, mid $16k range as a trade. About $20k-$21k fair retail.

ariaz · March 2020

qbrozen said:

ariaz said:
Can you tell me the trade in and retail on 2014 Lexus GS350. No F sport FWD with 84k miles. Interior is in great shape, some minor scratches on the exterior, no mechanical issues, all services up to date. New tires and battery.
Isn’t the GS RWD?
Anyway, mid $16k range as a trade. About $20k-$21k fair retail.

Yes, it's RWD

steine13 · March 2020

Hey guys,
It's been quiet here lately. For your entertainment, I'll tell you how come I didn't have a car to drive yesterday morning.... when ten days earlier, I had nominally five to choose from.

Our 2018 Cruze hatch was returned 150 miles shy of the 20k limit last week. This will be instructive, since the last time I returned a leased car early, they never got back to me and 'forgot' to charge me the turn-in fee. It was a cheap Cruze LS that I prepaid on my credit card to simplify negotiations. And I turned it in 6 months early with the miles all used up, and our daughter heading to college.
This time, I made the remaining two payments, and we'll see.

Michigan is still open for business, but gatherings > 50 are verboten by executive order. My workplace is still operating, but anyone who can is told to work from home. Had a zoom meeting with 80 invitees and 30+ participants and did that from home, and it worked beautifully. The technology & bandwidth boggles the mind of one who can remember listening to the sound of modems connecting

So with more restrictions looming, I figured I'd better sell my winter beater while I still can. Took $5 for a craigslist ad and four hours.
2007Mazda6
There *is* a market for cheap cars that actually don't need a ton of work, even if they have sloppy ball joints, snow tires, and cloudy headlights. I really enjoyed driving it, and it's why I bought a Ford Fusion stablemate for the kid. I'm leaving the ad up for now as a stick in the eye for the yahoos who are trying to get $3 for their basket cases. We hates them.

BTW, that spot at the Lab, with the clean-looking, simple brick background, with shade on a sunny day, has sold a few cars for me over the years. Terry of blessed memory clued me in to the lighting thing.

I hadn't been on craigs for several years, and the text messages saying "send an email to [gmail acct]" were a surprise. Had a half dozen immediately, and no doubt it's a scam, but I don't know what they want. Had a few grownups call on the phone, usually after making contact with text message, disclosed stuff and 'lost' few customers, until one came, saw, drove, and handed me $950 cash. We hand sanitized, elbow bumped, and the money is quarantined in the basement. Interesting times.

Got the '17 Grand Caravan out of storage yesterday, and we're waiting for the weather to clear up. Nearly -10 degrees socialist this morning. Until then, I'm writing pointless stories on the internet that don't go anywhere. Like the time I went to Shelbyville. I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time...

cheers -mathias

stickguy · March 2020

nice ad. Other than the rust on the rear fender lip, looks nice and clean. Steep miles but if it starts without a cloud of smoke, and drives and stops normally, great deal for that price.

steine13 · March 2020

It was sold two years earlier by a local used-car dealer for $2... it needs tires, headlights, and a grand of suspension work.... it really isn't worth much... but it''s driveable as is, which is a big deal.

"A thousand dollar car ain't gonna roll
until you throw another thousand down the hole
you put your money in it, and there you are
owner of a two thousand dollar, thousand dollar car"
[the bottle rockets]

Doogins03 · March 2020

Hello,

Looking to get an idea of what I can expect in a trade in value for 2018 Dodge Durango GT Blacktop Pkg RWD, Redline Red Exterior with Performance Hood. I have attached the window sticker as well for reference.

Vehicle in Maine...1 Owner, 28.6k, maintenance up to date, Very Good condition, was bought in Texas and always garaged. I just moved back to Maine so its only seen one winter season, but still garaged.

Thank you in advance!

stickguy · March 2020

Might get more money net taking it back to Texas.

tjc78 · March 2020

Yeah, going to take a hit in Maine for RWD.

qbrozen · March 2020

I don't think I can answer requests right now. Mannheim has ceased most operations, and a Durango hasn't crossed the block in 9 days. My info would be severely outdated in this climate, and it would be a disservice to mislead people.

Michaell · March 2020

qbrozen said:
I don't think I can answer requests right now. Mannheim has ceased most operations, and a Durango hasn't crossed the block in 9 days. My info would be severely outdated in this climate, and it would be a disservice to mislead people.

That's no bueno, but I completely understand, given the current economic climate.

stickguy · March 2020

I keep getting emails from the dealers that they are doing deals online and will deliver, but I have not seen any mention about trade ins!

Sandman6472 · March 2020

Not sure I'd feel comfortable buying from home and having them bring it out. I'd like to see their whole selection and drive a few to make sure I was getting the right model personally. So much easier if they have the exact model in stock and you've driven it before this insane nonsense began.

stickguy · March 2020

These days quality is overall so good and consistent I don't worry about trying out the specific unit. I did make sure to look at build date and pick the freshest one (which just happened to be the one we test drove anyway). certainly take a look at it before accepting though.

our car actually had a 2/2020 build date, and we first test drove it on 3/7. Had not been prepped and actually only had the delivery gallon of gas, so my wife had to stop for gas before the test drive. And since it only had 5 miles, including our test drive, I know it was fresh!

nyccarguy · March 2020

Michaell said:

qbrozen said:
I don't think I can answer requests right now. Mannheim has ceased most operations, and a Durango hasn't crossed the block in 9 days. My info would be severely outdated in this climate, and it would be a disservice to mislead people.
That's no bueno, but I completely understand, given the current economic climate.

Things are bad. I know a guy in CO who went to Target for bagels

jmonroe · March 2020

nyccarguy said:

Michaell said:

qbrozen said:
I don't think I can answer requests right now. Mannheim has ceased most operations, and a Durango hasn't crossed the block in 9 days. My info would be severely outdated in this climate, and it would be a disservice to mislead people.
That's no bueno, but I completely understand, given the current economic climate.
Things are bad. I know a guy in CO who went to Target for bagels

I'd rather just stick with conventional toast. I have standards ya know.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · March 2020

jmonroe said:

nyccarguy said:

Michaell said:

qbrozen said:
I don't think I can answer requests right now. Mannheim has ceased most operations, and a Durango hasn't crossed the block in 9 days. My info would be severely outdated in this climate, and it would be a disservice to mislead people.
That's no bueno, but I completely understand, given the current economic climate.
Things are bad. I know a guy in CO who went to Target for bagels
I'd rather just stick with conventional toast. I have standards ya know.

jmonroe

You strike me as an avocado toast kind of guy

andres3 · March 2020

stickguy said:
These days quality is overall so good and consistent I don't worry about trying out the specific unit. I did make sure to look at build date and pick the freshest one (which just happened to be the one we test drove anyway). certainly take a look at it before accepting though.

our car actually had a 2/2020 build date, and we first test drove it on 3/7. Had not been prepped and actually only had the delivery gallon of gas, so my wife had to stop for gas before the test drive. And since it only had 5 miles, including our test drive, I know it was fresh!

Where do you find the "build date?" Is it on the sticker, or some other stamp on the car?

sda · March 2020

andres3 said:

stickguy said:
These days quality is overall so good and consistent I don't worry about trying out the specific unit. I did make sure to look at build date and pick the freshest one (which just happened to be the one we test drove anyway). certainly take a look at it before accepting though.

our car actually had a 2/2020 build date, and we first test drove it on 3/7. Had not been prepped and actually only had the delivery gallon of gas, so my wife had to stop for gas before the test drive. And since it only had 5 miles, including our test drive, I know it was fresh!
Where do you find the "build date?" Is it on the sticker, or some other stamp on the car?

It’s typically located in the bottom of the driver’s door jamb. It is a small placard with VIN and manufacturer the info. Often it’s next the the tire inflation/tire size placard.

stickguy · March 2020

yup. that is where it is. does not have the day, but gives month and year.

tjc78 · March 2020

Avocado toast isn't all that bad if you add two sunny side up eggs on top, some bacon crumbles, cheese and salsa.

Of course by then any healthy aspects of it are long gone!

jmonroe · March 2020

tjc78 said:
Avocado toast isn't all that bad if you add two sunny side up eggs on top, some bacon crumbles, cheese and salsa.

Of course by then any healthy aspects of it are long gone!

My favorite food is non-health food. I grew up on that stuff. Life was better when we didn't know what we didn't want to know.

jmonroe

Sandman6472 · March 2020

This whole thing sucks! Sucks big time!!

Sandman6472 · March 2020

Thanks JMonroe! "Life was better when we didn't know what we didn't want to know."!!

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