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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,200
    My neighbor still has the Venza they bought new... Maybe 10 years old?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,118
    When we bought the Outback in 2015, we briefly toyed with the idea of getting a Venza. The Toyota and Subaru dealers were next to each other, so on the way to test drive the OB, we swung through the Toyota dealer for a look. Drove past one - the wife took one look at it and said "nope".

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,031
    That might be the first Subaru ever sold on the basis of styling. :laughing:

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    I always called the Venza a Camry wagon - it wasn't bad looking at all. New one is kind of derpy, as one expects from the brand these days. Gotta have that C-pillar beltline upkick for "character", "dynamism" and to reduce visibility for a driver demographic who needs all the help they can get.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,118
    ab348 said:

    That might be the first Subaru ever sold on the basis of styling. :laughing:

    If it hadn't priced out at $10k more, we both liked the Volvo XC70.

    The Outback has aged well, in my eyes. The new iteration isn't all that different looking.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    I saw a copy of the 2021 E-class dealer ordering guide - the "luxury" trim package (traditional grille, hood star) is being dropped for the facelift. Maybe this car will be the one I buy - I greatly enjoy the hood ornament.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    fintail said:

    I saw a copy of the 2021 E-class dealer ordering guide - the "luxury" trim package (traditional grille, hood star) is being dropped for the facelift. Maybe this car will be the one I buy - I greatly enjoy the hood ornament.

    I noticed what seemed like a Saab/MB/Audi junk yard car lot in Borrego Springs desert and unforgiving sun. A few of the MB's were thought worthy of a car cover, but the sun beats down on everything, and that hood ornament is usually the first breaking point in a car cover, and most of them were sticking out as it creates a stress/tension point in the car cover, which is where it'll fail first under the hot sun.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    On that note, I cover my old car, and remove the hood ornament before covering it. Not to preserve the cover (which isn't very tight), but to preserve the hood ornament spring - I've had a floppy hood ornament before, it is irritating, and somehow I remember it being a pain to replace.
    andres3 said:



    I noticed what seemed like a Saab/MB/Audi junk yard car lot in Borrego Springs desert and unforgiving sun. A few of the MB's were thought worthy of a car cover, but the sun beats down on everything, and that hood ornament is usually the first breaking point in a car cover, and most of them were sticking out as it creates a stress/tension point in the car cover, which is where it'll fail first under the hot sun.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Can't wait to see this on the road, what is it, an Edsel-Lexus hybrid?

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    I guess some stylists defected from Lexus.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,118
    I think we should all remember, with some fondness, the grief Acura got for their "beak"...

    If this is the new corporate look for all BMW's going forward, count me out...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    That is just godawful. And the rest of the car looks so good!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    New BMW grille, Doubles as a waffle iron! :D
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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,686
    Perhaps it will get the Acura beak reaction, and a change will be swifter than Acurs's was. Vote with your wallet!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    It keeps getting better:

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    The canards lol, and look under the grille and try not to see a mouth, it has a face.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,852
    Awful grill and black wheels, what’s not to love?

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,685
    I saw a new NSX yesterday. Maybe the second I've seen. They can't be selling many, I live all of 3 miles from an Acura dealer.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,031

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,852
    edited June 2020
    Wow... that's now a Nissan RAV4. Pure and total knock off, even the interior

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    Nice Hyundai nose on it!

    But, overall, I actually like it. Vast improvement over the old model.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,031
    stickguy said:

    Nice Hyundai nose on it!

    But, overall, I actually like it. Vast improvement over the old model.

    The looks immediately reminded me of a bulked-up Hyundai Venue.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Yeah, the Hyundai is comically apparent. But the prior one was so old, something needed to be done.

    It'll be interesting to see how an assumed decrease in fleet sales hurts the brand in the short term.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,852
    I can see some Hyundai in the front for sure, but there is a lot of current gen RAV as well.

    Can’t blame them, the RAV is selling well

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    tjc78 said:

    I can see some Hyundai in the front for sure, but there is a lot of current gen RAV as well.

    Can’t blame them, the RAV is selling well

    However, the RAV 4 is known for being able to withstand anything the world, nature, or mankind can do to it, and still run reliably.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Also one of those cars I might give a wide berth in traffic - around here seems to have a knack for either loaf ing along at 5 under or making a random wild unsignalled turn from the far lane.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    Could be an interesting lease option a year from now!

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    edited June 2020
    I wish Actuarial data was made public by Insurance companies. How is it Geico can charge $600+ per 6 months for collision coverage on my TTS with 1,000 dollar deductibles and only 6K miles per year, while another company only upcharges less than $200? Of course, Geico's base price is $600 less so they win; I just self insure on the TTS and get Comprehensive protection only, along with a whopping $3,500 in uninsured property protection. The same $3,500 that existed 20 years ago. You'd think someone in government would have used an inflation calculator by now!!!!! :angry:
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    I swear a Model Y just drove by my window. Kind of like a 3 but more egg/potato-like.

    Saw a couple CT5 on a car hauler along with some kind of 2er and leviathan X7.

    Not new, also saw an SLS Roadster with commercial plates, which made me think "brave tax-dodging bootstrapper" (such plates are not for rentals here).
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,031
    A walkaround and sit-in (no driving impression) of the 2021 Hyundai Elantra:

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/videos/the-2021-hyundai-elantra-is-a-bold-move

    The reviewer is a bit of an apologist but even at that his comments about the styling themes and resultant trade-offs re headroom and visibility are worth noting. I just dunno about this one...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    Just a few from my trip to Ohio and back since Thursday.

    Merc GLB. Looks better than the pictures. Can't say the same for the driver. Hung on my rear left for too long after I pulled over to let them pass, so I pulled back left and they got to find out how their auto braking worked.
    Hopefully they knew it was a feature. Didn't bother me after that.

    New Escape, was surprised how much the back looked like the previous gen other than the rear lights.
    If you only look at the read lights, it looks like a RAV 4.

    A red Stelvio, Red was not Italian enough is all I can say.

    My favorite, an SL55 AMG. Poking along behind a 18 wheeler on I-81. Driver had a huge cigar in his mouth.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    In a neighbors driveway, a new MB GLS. Long SUV. At least has clean styling, looks like a suburban. Probably roomy inside, but the rear doors were super long. Looked abnormal, like they were stretched. Could get ugly when kids start shooting them open in a parking lot.

    Quite the barge.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,200
    stickguy said:

    In a neighbors driveway, a new MB GLS. Long SUV. At least has clean styling, looks like a suburban. Probably roomy inside, but the rear doors were super long. Looked abnormal, like they were stretched. Could get ugly when kids start shooting them open in a parking lot.

    Quite the barge.

    450 or 580?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    450. In white. Was parked next to an Audi Q5 and made it look like a Dinky toy.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,200
    stickguy said:

    450. In white. Was parked next to an Audi Q5 and made it look like a Dinky toy.

    I always thought those were Tahoe sized, more or less.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    Just looked it up. 205” long. So right around Tahoe length, but interestingly on a much longer wheelbase. Still big.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    Those MB SUV's are really that big. There are several in our neighborhood.
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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 6,953
    edited July 2020
    See them all over South Florida but MB's and BMW's are very popular down here. Audi's, not so much, but starting to see more of them. Or A3 now has around 55K and except for wanting an extra quart of oil very now and then, has been flawless. Sure, it's already had two batteries replaced under warranty and a new set of sneakers, but much more trouble free then my Golf has been. Part of me wants to just take it over once she wants to trade it in but not sure I really would want a sedan to be honest. I want a new hatchback but now that the current oil leak is fixed, holding on a bit even though the axle boots are both in need of repair. But to buy something new when my commute is down to 21 miles/week just doesn't make sense right now. Even though it's a great time to buy if one does have the $!! Love the 0% financing to be honest and the delayed 1st payment period but what to buy is the question.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,686
    Two Maserati QPs (current) within 5 minutes yesterday. Perhaps a 2 for 1 sale at the local dealer?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    A Cadillac XT6. Front looks distinctive, rest is pretty generic.
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    So here's a funny one, I saw a Dacia Duster truck just outside of Seattle when I was coming back from Mt. Rainier yesterday. I didn't get a chance to see the plates, but I'd like to know what it was doing here.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Dacia Duster exists in Mexico as a Renault Duster, maybe MX plates? Or a diplomat car from one of the few embassies that isn't there to flaunt money, or maybe a testing car?

    I've seen several Mexican plated cars in WA before.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,118
    fintail said:

    Dacia Duster exists in Mexico as a Renault Duster, maybe MX plates? Or a diplomat car from one of the few embassies that isn't there to flaunt money, or maybe a testing car?

    I've seen several Mexican plated cars in WA before.

    I see quite a few in CO, as well.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Saw my first new Defender actually on the road, this one had the 'look at me' sidemounted luggage (pannier for cars?).

    I wonder if they are carrying an ADM - the bootstrapping bougie once a year skier occasional hiker (prefers paved trailheads) rough and tumble eastsider outdoorsperson set around here should be lining up right now,
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,686
    97 sunny degrees today. So, naturally my thoughts turned to wandering closed on Sunday new car lots, local MB/Porsche/Acura/Audi. On the Audi lot, two new E-Tron Sportbacks. My initial thought? Looks like a pregnant A7 on stilts. YMMV.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    Down in expensive house land (jersey shore, sadly we can only afford to rent). Car spotting heaven. A few black walk, many newer 6 figure cars. Pretty e450 convertible. Lots of other big MB. pretty M4 convertible. Range rovers dime a dozen.

    One house had a new Bentley SUV and a drop dead gorgeous newer Bentley convertible. Dark blue with brown top. I figure the 2 card alone were close to 400k sticker.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Spotted a new style G-Wagen towing a little Airstream trailer today.

    Maybe 1:10000 G-Wagen on this continent actually do more than visit a gallery mall/office building/questionably purchased house, so maybe 1:100000 new ones.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,852
    stickguy said:

    Down in expensive house land (jersey shore, sadly we can only afford to rent). Car spotting heaven. A few black walk, many newer 6 figure cars. Pretty e450 convertible. Lots of other big MB. pretty M4 convertible. Range rovers dime a dozen.

    One house had a new Bentley SUV and a drop dead gorgeous newer Bentley convertible. Dark blue with brown top. I figure the 2 card alone were close to 400k sticker.

    See my post if C&C. Was in Margate today. Expensive iron everywhere. Lambo and Ferrari land.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,439
    Saw that. Sounds like SH. my son saw something about a house listed cheap. Lowest price single on the island. I think small, needs work. Listed at something like $1.2mill. The cars are no surprise.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,118
    Drove past my neighbors house yesterday, and found 2 McLarens parked in the driveway. I guess he alternates between them to keep the miles down.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,031
    A rather glowing review of the new Toyota Venza on Roadshow today. I will need to be convinced on the hybrid drivetrain, but I like what I see otherwise, especially the interior.

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2021-toyota-venza-preview/

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