Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

corvette · September 2020

Michaell said:
I wouldn't mind the C30, but the fact that he didn't do the timing belt annoys me.

There have been so many cars, I can't keep track. Was there a sticker indicating a recent-ish service on that one?

Michaell · September 2020

corvette said:

Michaell said:
I wouldn't mind the C30, but the fact that he didn't do the timing belt annoys me.
There have been so many cars, I can't keep track. Was there a sticker indicating a recent-ish service on that one?

I can't remember, but a lot of comments on the ad noted that.

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

stickguy said:
Hoovie has a lot nicer stuff. Compared to him, JR is running a BHPH lot in a bad neighborhood.

Yeah, but if you buy something off Hoovie and it breaks down (likely), you have to pay Johnny or Wizard to fix it. JR will probably fix it for free in your driveway.

ab348 · September 2020

Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

ab348 · September 2020

xwesx said:

stickguy said:
Oh, I’m sure I would hate it. But it’s so cheap, and probably the perfect spare car.

Did I mention cheap?
That has proven to not be a good enough reason on past deals. Oh, you end up getting them, but then it is just pick, pick, pick....

Well, it is like a long-running TV series that eventually starts to recycle the same script ideas from the early seasons to keep the franchise alive once the writers have run out of gas. Lather, rinse, repeat. At least it gives us something to ~~watch~~ read...

kyfdx · September 2020

ab348 said:

xwesx said:

stickguy said:
Oh, I’m sure I would hate it. But it’s so cheap, and probably the perfect spare car.

Did I mention cheap?
That has proven to not be a good enough reason on past deals. Oh, you end up getting them, but then it is just pick, pick, pick....
Well, it is like a long-running TV series that eventually starts to recycle the same script ideas from the early seasons to keep the franchise alive once the writers have run out of gas. Lather, rinse, repeat. At least it gives us something to ~~watch~~ read...

Are you saying this series has "jumped the shark"?

ab348 · September 2020

More like the famous line "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

stickguy · September 2020

Would have to see that Elantra in person to decide. But an N line manual could be interesting!

stickguy · September 2020

I’d be real interested in this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAtsuQnihw8

graphicguy · September 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:
I guess Mustang owners don't need a crowd in order to crash:

https://www.grandtournation.com/cars/ford-mustang-interrupts-photoshoot-crashes-immediately/?fbclid=IwAR0yktrbN2C0MVrzSUrMTQxH1EBDvrCefmIt3RFKoBjY9Hb1ffAotVL2OPA
That’s just sad.

And stupid! How do you crash a car in an empty parking lot? By being stupid.

Michaell · September 2020

kyfdx said:

ab348 said:

xwesx said:

stickguy said:
Oh, I’m sure I would hate it. But it’s so cheap, and probably the perfect spare car.

Did I mention cheap?
That has proven to not be a good enough reason on past deals. Oh, you end up getting them, but then it is just pick, pick, pick....
Well, it is like a long-running TV series that eventually starts to recycle the same script ideas from the early seasons to keep the franchise alive once the writers have run out of gas. Lather, rinse, repeat. At least it gives us something to ~~watch~~ read...
Are you saying this series has "jumped the shark"?

Bonus trivia question - which series introduced us to this term?

corvette · September 2020

I can't remember, but I do remember it was a very neat website which was bought out by TV Guide (I think) and now no longer exists. Television Without Pity was also a great website for summaries, but is now defunct.

kyfdx · September 2020

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

ab348 said:

xwesx said:

stickguy said:
Oh, I’m sure I would hate it. But it’s so cheap, and probably the perfect spare car.

Did I mention cheap?
That has proven to not be a good enough reason on past deals. Oh, you end up getting them, but then it is just pick, pick, pick....
Well, it is like a long-running TV series that eventually starts to recycle the same script ideas from the early seasons to keep the franchise alive once the writers have run out of gas. Lather, rinse, repeat. At least it gives us something to ~~watch~~ read...
Are you saying this series has "jumped the shark"?
Bonus trivia question - which series introduced us to this term?

Since I brought it up, I'll sit this one out.

andres3 · September 2020

Would I be nuts to bid $7K on this:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9nXWQdLn/1992-acura-legend-sedan

andres3 · September 2020

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:
I guess Mustang owners don't need a crowd in order to crash:

https://www.grandtournation.com/cars/ford-mustang-interrupts-photoshoot-crashes-immediately/?fbclid=IwAR0yktrbN2C0MVrzSUrMTQxH1EBDvrCefmIt3RFKoBjY9Hb1ffAotVL2OPA
That’s just sad.
And stupid! How do you crash a car in an empty parking lot? By being stupid.

I'd wager a healthy combination of BOTH stupidity and incompetence behind the steering wheel.

kyfdx · September 2020

andres3 said:
Would I be nuts to bid $7K on this:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9nXWQdLn/1992-acura-legend-sedan

Only if you really want it... and, you won't get it for $7K anyway.

I sold an identical model (except for color) with just 36K miles in 2013... and got $5K for it.

28firefighter · September 2020

I'd buy it for $7k and daily drive it. Throw an updated headunit in with bluetooth and you're off to the races. Thing will last forever.

EDIT: Agree with @kyfdx as well - you won't get it for $7k anyway.

stickguy · September 2020

Happy days. The Fonz water skiing.

stickguy · September 2020

Legend would be going for double if it was a manual!

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

Hyundai has a knack for making the sides of their cars look interesting. I hope the interiors are nicer than the 2020s.

stickguy · September 2020

The sport was way nicer than what you likely had as a base rental spec

fintail · September 2020

Holy DLO fail, entire fake rear quarter window there, might even beat the 2012 Camry.

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

andres3 said:
Would I be nuts to bid $7K on this:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9nXWQdLn/1992-acura-legend-sedan

Yes but if sanity was a requirement, this board would be empty.

mb_enthusiast · September 2020

So...my 2017 Porsche Cayenne S is due for service today. According to the maintenance booklet (and on-board computer), she is only due for an engine oil and oil filter change. Since she is at 28k miles, I could conceivably do the spark plugs. But, according to the booklet, that isn't due until 30k miles and four years of service. She is going to be at three years of service on October 30th. I have an appointment at the Porsche Exchange in Highland Park, Illinois this afternoon for this and to resolve an issue that they caused months ago with the fuel pumps (they broke the clips on the rear bench seat in the process of replacing them).

I called ahead and was quoted $825 by the Exchange. I then called Napleton Porsche Westmont (Westmont, IL) and Loeber Porsche (Lincolnwood, IL), which quoted me $1,400 and $495, respectively. The Exchange specifically stated that it wasn't a major service and therefore was "only" $825. Napleton told me that their $1,400 included oil and spark plugs. Aren't these people trying to rip me off before I even step foot in the dealership?

Michaell · September 2020

stickguy said:
Happy days. The Fonz water skiing.

Ding ding ding.

I saw an article recently about Henry Winkler watching the show with his grandkids, having to explain to them his character.

ronsteve · September 2020

mjfloyd1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:
heck, if it was dark blue and had a stick, I would take it!
Stop trying to steal my wife’s cars!
Alright, here you go. Gets 50% of what you asked for. ;b
https://sutherlinnissanmallofga.com/vehicle-details/used-2008-bmw-3-series-convertible-328i-WBAWL13518PX20390
Why would a dealer drop the price $1700 in this market. Red flag.
I don’t think that they dropped the price. They just got it and want someone to think that they are getting a great deal by slashing through higher prices

This! Dealers around here are notorious for that.

xwesx · September 2020

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

That's a whole lot of 'yuck.' Hyundai cannot seem to rid themselves of the instinct for ugly, even though they curtailed it for a number of years.

xwesx · September 2020

mb_enthusiast said:

I called ahead and was quoted $825 by the Exchange. I then called Napleton Porsche Westmont (Westmont, IL) and Loeber Porsche (Lincolnwood, IL), which quoted me $1,400 and $495, respectively. The Exchange specifically stated that it wasn't a major service and therefore was "only" $825. Napleton told me that their $1,400 included oil and spark plugs. Aren't these people trying to rip me off before I even step foot in the dealership?

Well, at least they detailed what the service includes! Just a la carte it and do what you're comfortable with them doing (and the amount you're spending).

Hopefully they don't keep it for a month only to decide that it doesn't need any service/repair after all! That's what happened with my Q7 this past month. /sigh

au1994 · September 2020

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

ab348 said:

xwesx said:

stickguy said:
Oh, I’m sure I would hate it. But it’s so cheap, and probably the perfect spare car.

Did I mention cheap?
That has proven to not be a good enough reason on past deals. Oh, you end up getting them, but then it is just pick, pick, pick....
Well, it is like a long-running TV series that eventually starts to recycle the same script ideas from the early seasons to keep the franchise alive once the writers have run out of gas. Lather, rinse, repeat. At least it gives us something to ~~watch~~ read...
Are you saying this series has "jumped the shark"?
Bonus trivia question - which series introduced us to this term?

Happy Days. Fonzie actually jumps sharks.

mb_enthusiast · September 2020

xwesx said:

mb_enthusiast said:

I called ahead and was quoted $825 by the Exchange. I then called Napleton Porsche Westmont (Westmont, IL) and Loeber Porsche (Lincolnwood, IL), which quoted me $1,400 and $495, respectively. The Exchange specifically stated that it wasn't a major service and therefore was "only" $825. Napleton told me that their $1,400 included oil and spark plugs. Aren't these people trying to rip me off before I even step foot in the dealership?
Well, at least they detailed what the service includes! Just a la carte it and do what you're comfortable with them doing (and the amount you're spending).

Hopefully they don't keep it for a month only to decide that it doesn't need any service/repair after all! That's what happened with my Q7 this past month. /sigh

My 2015 GL63 AMG misfired while getting groceries and my indie found oil in the engine wiring harness. Has been gone for two and a half weeks. I'm picking it up this afternoon after Zurich shelled out over $4k for the repair. That VSC has nearly paid for itself with this one incident.

Regarding the Porsche, I should be able to get the oil changed for $200, I would think. Since the dealership damaged the clips, it's going to be interesting to see what happens when I explain to them that I am not going to be paying them $825 for an oil change!

Update: My dad will be discharged from his sub-acute rehab on October 1st. I have not seen him in months due to Illinois' draconian (but defensible) COVID-19 lockdown policies. This has been an incredibly long journey. When I first joined this thread, he was on the verge of death, and that cliff was approached a few more times over the past year-plus. I feel so lucky to be able to see him go home to live mostly independently after all of these trials.

28firefighter · September 2020

Great news about your dad, @mb_enthusiast. Prayers for his continued recovery.

In other news I posted my i3 on leasehackr. Got tons of interest via private message. But I can’t bring myself to get rid of it. I like it too much.

fintail · September 2020

I have a friend with a 14 E550 who recently had the same issue, even provided a pic of a wiring connector with oil coming out of it. Fortunately he was still under CPO warranty. Crazy, faults nobody would ever think of.

mb_enthusiast said:

My 2015 GL63 AMG misfired while getting groceries and my indie found oil in the engine wiring harness. Has been gone for two and a half weeks. I'm picking it up this afternoon after Zurich shelled out over $4k for the repair. That VSC has nearly paid for itself with this one incident.

tifighter · September 2020

mb_enthusiast said:

My 2015 GL63 AMG misfired while getting groceries and my indie found oil in the engine wiring harness. Has been gone for two and a half weeks.

Shaking my head doesn't even begin to cover this.

andres3 · September 2020

The Acura Legend has July 2020 registration CA plates.

Anyone here such a CCBA they are a DMV expert? I have a feeling late fees, penalties, and more will be inflicted painfully upon a buyer who lives in California too. Or am I over-worried?

stickguy · September 2020

How exactly does oil get in the wiring harness?

Andre, can’t see how that matters. A problem for the current owner. If you buy it, need to register new anyway.

mb_enthusiast · September 2020

stickguy said:
How exactly does oil get in the wiring harness?

Andre, can’t see how that matters. A problem for the current owner. If you buy it, need to register new anyway.

I don't understand it either. I've only heard of it on Mercedes-Benz engines and trucks (perhaps Mercedes too).

mjfloyd1 · September 2020

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:
I guess Mustang owners don't need a crowd in order to crash:

https://www.grandtournation.com/cars/ford-mustang-interrupts-photoshoot-crashes-immediately/?fbclid=IwAR0yktrbN2C0MVrzSUrMTQxH1EBDvrCefmIt3RFKoBjY9Hb1ffAotVL2OPA
That’s just sad.
And stupid! How do you crash a car in an empty parking lot? By being stupid.

That’s the problem. He thought it was an empty parking lot and didn’t notice the light poles with concrete bases because of all the tire smoke!

andres3 · September 2020

mb_enthusiast said:

stickguy said:
How exactly does oil get in the wiring harness?

Andre, can’t see how that matters. A problem for the current owner. If you buy it, need to register new anyway.
I don't understand it either. I've only heard of it on Mercedes-Benz engines and trucks (perhaps Mercedes too).

In CA I'm used to getting the remainder of the 12-mo period for a negligible $15 "transfer" fee or something. The DMV does not reimburse or give refunds on registration costs, for example, my A4 had until January when I recently sold it to Vroom. I won't see a penny.

However..... when Keystone Audi sold me the A4, they said I'd be getting a "NEW" registration. However, I bought in July, and in January, the DMV wanted the full boat of another year's registration. Thankfully, Keystone Audi refunded me nearly half of my prepaid DMV fees from the CPO purchase. I say "nearly" half because I'm suspicious some of my fees went to Late/Overdue/penalty fees and expenses.

kyfdx · September 2020

mjfloyd1 said:

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:
I guess Mustang owners don't need a crowd in order to crash:

https://www.grandtournation.com/cars/ford-mustang-interrupts-photoshoot-crashes-immediately/?fbclid=IwAR0yktrbN2C0MVrzSUrMTQxH1EBDvrCefmIt3RFKoBjY9Hb1ffAotVL2OPA
That’s just sad.
And stupid! How do you crash a car in an empty parking lot? By being stupid.
That’s the problem. He thought it was an empty parking lot and didn’t notice the light poles with concrete bases because of all the tire smoke!

Reminds me of my high school parking lot when snow covered. A whole lot of damage done there.

sda · September 2020

Hopefully they don't keep it for a month only to decide that it doesn't need any service/repair after all! That's what happened with my Q7 this past month. /sigh

You've got to be kidding! I would be less than happy.

andres3 · September 2020

Anyone know if the legendary Acura Legend's used 91 or 87 octane? Might go 7050.

kyfdx · September 2020

andres3 said:
Anyone know if the legendary Acura Legend's used 91 or 87 octane? Might go 7050.

Premium

28firefighter · September 2020

Even if it didn't, I'd put premium in.

greg128 · September 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

Hyundai has a knack for making the sides of their cars look interesting. I hope the interiors are nicer than the 2020s.

Very unattractive...I could never own a car that looked like that

andres3 · September 2020

kyfdx said:

andres3 said:
Anyone know if the legendary Acura Legend's used 91 or 87 octane? Might go 7050.
Premium

Dang it. you guys were right $7,099 is not enough.

mjfloyd1 · September 2020

greg128 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

Hyundai has a knack for making the sides of their cars look interesting. I hope the interiors are nicer than the 2020s.
I could never own a car that looked like that

That is a bizarre look with an arrow on the door. That would be a body shop nightmare but smart for Hyundai since they would just replace panels. Such an ugly design

breld · September 2020

andres3 said:

kyfdx said:

andres3 said:
Anyone know if the legendary Acura Legend's used 91 or 87 octane? Might go 7050.
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Dang it. you guys were right $7,099 is not enough.

C'mon - go for it! Just a few hundred more...

ab348 · September 2020

mjfloyd1 said:

greg128 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:
Pictures of the 2021 Elantra:

Hyundai has a knack for making the sides of their cars look interesting. I hope the interiors are nicer than the 2020s.
I could never own a car that looked like that
That is a bizarre look with an arrow on the door. That would be a body shop nightmare but smart for Hyundai since they would just replace panels. Such an ugly design

The bigger problem is that given the model they will sell a lot of strippo models, so your eyes will be assaulted by this design everywhere.

breld · September 2020

breld said:

andres3 said:

kyfdx said:

andres3 said:
Anyone know if the legendary Acura Legend's used 91 or 87 octane? Might go 7050.
Premium
Dang it. you guys were right $7,099 is not enough.
C'mon - go for it! Just a few hundred more...

Okay - maybe a bit more than a few hundred.

Wouldn't surprise me if it gets to $10-12k. It's not that it's necessarily worth that, but that's a palatable amount of money to spend on a car like that Legend with so few miles.

EDIT: Okay, $9,000.

xwesx · September 2020

The price of owning a Legend....

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