Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!

Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

1219121922194219621973117

Comments

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373

    Speaking of the good old days:

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dodge-charger-12/

    A little crusty and the wrong engine but might be nice to cruise around in.

    318 CI V8 with a 3 speed automatic and a whopping 230 horsepower? 0 - ...

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    45

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    58

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    59

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    not a bad looking old car. No, not fire breathing, but for cruising around on a nice Sunday or doing a local cars and coffee, perfectly fine. The 318 isn't that much of a dog, at least compared to the slant 6 it also came with!

    and if you want to spruce it up, easy to do (to that engine, or drop in the monster of your choice).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    15+ months until the Tundra lease ends (possibly six months longer if I'm offered an extension), and I'm already brainstorming replacements. Leasing another Tundra is a definite possibility, if they're still leasing as well. I'd also consider something well-used but in good condition, like a Land Cruiser (like @au1994 ) / Sequoia / LX570, or a 4Runner (like @dad23 ) / GX470.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,254
    @corvette,
    I guess you are into nostalgia. ;)
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    there is a new Tundra in the works. Not sure if it will be out by then though, or close enough to make the deals good on the dinosaur version!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    I just have an aversion to replacing one car with a newer version of the same thing. Might as well keep the old one! And if it is a lease, it should be a law that you have to try something new!

    and I don't count replacing the old RDX with a new RDX as that, since it was a complete clean-sheet redesign, and only the badge was the same.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236

    @corvette,
    I guess you are into nostalgia. ;)

    There are things about my 2009 Tahoe that I still miss.
    stickguy said:

    there is a new Tundra in the works. Not sure if it will be out by then though, or close enough to make the deals good on the dinosaur version!

    The redesign is supposed to arrive in 2021 as a 2022 model, I think. I doubt there will be any leftover 2021s by the time my lease is up, but hopefully, there will be good deals available on the new ones.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    are you driving a 1960s beetle with a compression issue?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    Your definition of winter beater and mine are different. Unless it sells for the current $300 bid.
    Not terribly far from me. Maybe I'll be bold and throw a grand at it. :)

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    whoops.


    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    qbrozen said:

    whoops.


    buy it, fix it all up, then let me know when you get tired of it so I can buy it from you.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    got bored, so did some browsing (online of course) at one of my regular spots. Lots of recent new inventory.

    I like this one. If it just had a 5 speed (and I know that it is probably better suited to the automatic but I have my standards!) I might really look at it to buy. Looks really clean for one of these, and miles reasonable.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2000-ford-ranger-supercab_126_wb_xl-used-1ftyr14v5ytb07365.html

    This one is gorgeous. I got real excited to see it, ready to run up there tomorrow, until seeing the deal breaker. One of these with a slushbox, should be against the law.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-mazda-mx~5_miata-2dr_convertible_automatic_grand_touring-used-jm1nc26f370133690.html

    and finally, no pictures, and seems a bit pricey (though quite likely the MSRP was way higher than I would expect) , but this could be a cool thing to have.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2015-mini-cooper_s_countryman-all4-used-wmwzc5c50fwt37886.html

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    I’m seriously tempted in the $7k-$9k range. I bet it goes for way more, though.
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    stickguy said:

    got bored, so did some browsing (online of course) at one of my regular spots. Lots of recent new inventory.

    I like this one. If it just had a 5 speed (and I know that it is probably better suited to the automatic but I have my standards!) I might really look at it to buy. Looks really clean for one of these, and miles reasonable.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2000-ford-ranger-supercab_126_wb_xl-used-1ftyr14v5ytb07365.html

    This one is gorgeous. I got real excited to see it, ready to run up there tomorrow, until seeing the deal breaker. One of these with a slushbox, should be against the law.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-mazda-mx~5_miata-2dr_convertible_automatic_grand_touring-used-jm1nc26f370133690.html

    and finally, no pictures, and seems a bit pricey (though quite likely the MSRP was way higher than I would expect) , but this could be a cool thing to have.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2015-mini-cooper_s_countryman-all4-used-wmwzc5c50fwt37886.html

    That MINI seems a lot like my daughters, option wise. Hers stickered for something like $36-37K.

    It's a 2014 with just over 40,000 miles, and her dealer sent a buy bid of $8600 a few weeks ago. $18K for one year newer and 16,000 less miles seems way overpriced.

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

    2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    I’m seriously tempted in the $7k-$9k range. I bet it goes for way more, though.

    For the 114k-mile, decade-old X3? $7k? Really? I think you are saying that only because it is 3500 miles away and you'll never actually have to follow through. LOL.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    stickguy said:

    got bored, so did some browsing (online of course) at one of my regular spots. Lots of recent new inventory.

    I like this one. If it just had a 5 speed (and I know that it is probably better suited to the automatic but I have my standards!) I might really look at it to buy. Looks really clean for one of these, and miles reasonable.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2000-ford-ranger-supercab_126_wb_xl-used-1ftyr14v5ytb07365.html

    This one is gorgeous. I got real excited to see it, ready to run up there tomorrow, until seeing the deal breaker. One of these with a slushbox, should be against the law.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-mazda-mx~5_miata-2dr_convertible_automatic_grand_touring-used-jm1nc26f370133690.html

    and finally, no pictures, and seems a bit pricey (though quite likely the MSRP was way higher than I would expect) , but this could be a cool thing to have.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2015-mini-cooper_s_countryman-all4-used-wmwzc5c50fwt37886.html

    Stick - forget about the whole “Miata with an automatic equals revocation of one’s man card” for just a minute. It’s “your” color combination & its $12K. Maybe less. If you drive it for a year or 2, you’ll loose what? $2K at the most? Maybe $3K?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    I like what I like!
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    nyccarguy said:

    Speaking of the good old days:

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dodge-charger-12/

    A little crusty and the wrong engine but might be nice to cruise around in.

    318 CI V8 with a 3 speed automatic and a whopping 230 horsepower? 0 - ...
    Well, I did say it was the wrong engine. I had a ‘69 Plymouth twin to the Charger with the same engine. It was the 320 ft.lbs. of torque that mattered. It would never be a threat to a 440 or even a 383 but I ruined many a tire with burnouts.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    As I've said before, I have trouble keeping a beater, I've fixed a few cosmetic issues on the Clubman because I hate to look at cracked or faded trim- I even bought a used ISOFIX cover on eBay to replace a missing door on one of the mounts.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    stickguy said:

    got bored, so did some browsing (online of course) at one of my regular spots. Lots of recent new inventory.

    I like this one. If it just had a 5 speed (and I know that it is probably better suited to the automatic but I have my standards!) I might really look at it to buy. Looks really clean for one of these, and miles reasonable.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2000-ford-ranger-supercab_126_wb_xl-used-1ftyr14v5ytb07365.html

    This one is gorgeous. I got real excited to see it, ready to run up there tomorrow, until seeing the deal breaker. One of these with a slushbox, should be against the law.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-mazda-mx~5_miata-2dr_convertible_automatic_grand_touring-used-jm1nc26f370133690.html

    and finally, no pictures, and seems a bit pricey (though quite likely the MSRP was way higher than I would expect) , but this could be a cool thing to have.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2015-mini-cooper_s_countryman-all4-used-wmwzc5c50fwt37886.html

    I would like that Ranger but near $6k for a 20 year old 100k+ mile truck seems a bit much. Alas those go for the craziest of money.

    Yeah, a Miata without a stick is a waste.

    I drove a Mini the other day and they are the roomiest small car made. Sharp handling but I didn’t think it was terribly fast. Also a car that probably is best with a stick.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    nyccarguy said:

    stickguy said:

    got bored, so did some browsing (online of course) at one of my regular spots. Lots of recent new inventory.

    I like this one. If it just had a 5 speed (and I know that it is probably better suited to the automatic but I have my standards!) I might really look at it to buy. Looks really clean for one of these, and miles reasonable.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2000-ford-ranger-supercab_126_wb_xl-used-1ftyr14v5ytb07365.html

    This one is gorgeous. I got real excited to see it, ready to run up there tomorrow, until seeing the deal breaker. One of these with a slushbox, should be against the law.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-mazda-mx~5_miata-2dr_convertible_automatic_grand_touring-used-jm1nc26f370133690.html

    and finally, no pictures, and seems a bit pricey (though quite likely the MSRP was way higher than I would expect) , but this could be a cool thing to have.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2015-mini-cooper_s_countryman-all4-used-wmwzc5c50fwt37886.html

    Stick - forget about the whole “Miata with an automatic equals revocation of one’s man card” for just a minute. It’s “your” color combination & its $12K. Maybe less. If you drive it for a year or 2, you’ll loose what? $2K at the most? Maybe $3K?
    I don't even know if that price for a 2007 is good or not. But, I don't want a sportscar with an automatic, so even if it won't depreciate much, what's the point? Not like it has any practical value!

    It isn't a "man card" issue. I wouldn't want one if I was a woman either!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    though if it comes down to $8,995 during a Christmas week snowstorm, I could be persuaded to change my mind. I could always flip it to one of my kids!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    I sent the link to my son to tease him. I know he can't buy it now, and doesn't need another car for a year or so until his lease runs out. But one of his concepts was getting a fun sports car along with a truck of some sort for carrying crap and winter duty.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,190
    stickguy said:

    this popped up on cars and bids. I love it. Already doing well, and I suspect it will end up getting to be quite a bit higher. Looks super clean. An old guy near me has one, but it is a red base model (5 speed though) and looks really worn and beat. But still funky.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9aQPb67m/1994-honda-civic-del-sol-si

    Had a 1993 del Sol in the family (my now-ex-wife was the primary driver) back in 2001-02... really fun and unique little car!
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    edited November 2020

    2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,221
    stickguy said:

    I just have an aversion to replacing one car with a newer version of the same thing. Might as well keep the old one! And if it is a lease, it should be a law that you have to try something new!

    and I don't count replacing the old RDX with a new RDX as that, since it was a complete clean-sheet redesign, and only the badge was the same.

    I suspect the Tundra will be a fresh design. The current one has been around for a long time.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    qbrozen said:

    I’m seriously tempted in the $7k-$9k range. I bet it goes for way more, though.

    For the 114k-mile, decade-old X3? $7k? Really? I think you are saying that only because it is 3500 miles away and you'll never actually have to follow through. LOL.
    I'm thinking $11K-$13K

    Edmunds Price Checker
    Edmunds Lease Calculator
    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236

    As I've said before, I have trouble keeping a beater, I've fixed a few cosmetic issues on the Clubman because I hate to look at cracked or faded trim- I even bought a used ISOFIX cover on eBay to replace a missing door on one of the mounts.

    Same, and that's one of the things that makes leasing attractive to me. With a used car, I figure spending at least a few hundred fixing cosmetic issues right out of the gate, plus things I discover later.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    au1994 said:
    I may be wrong, but I think that is still the N54 engine, in which case near 140k miles is a nonstarter, IMHO.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    edited November 2020
    kyfdx said:

    qbrozen said:

    I’m seriously tempted in the $7k-$9k range. I bet it goes for way more, though.

    For the 114k-mile, decade-old X3? $7k? Really? I think you are saying that only because it is 3500 miles away and you'll never actually have to follow through. LOL.
    I'm thinking $11K-$13K
    I did not realize that is a dealer who bought the car at auction. Seriously? That site just lost a TON of cred, IMHO. Anyway, dealer paid $6200 for it.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    edited November 2020
    Decided I had to post a comment on the auction. I wonder what kind of storm I started for myself

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    you see quite a few dealers there. usually try and position it as having recently bought from original owner or some such. Definitely want you to assume they are someone like chasing classic cars that finds something privately and brings it back to recommission before selling.

    just running your used car lot auction hoopties, that is what craigslist is for!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    Oh, sure, I know there are dealers. But I agree it should be those who seek out special cars from owners and can give the background on them and provide records. Buying from auction and reselling immediately is just garbage.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    qbrozen said:

    au1994 said:
    I may be wrong, but I think that is still the N54 engine, in which case near 140k miles is a nonstarter, IMHO.
    This dealer seems to specialize in rare BMW Wagons. Not too long ago they had a 330xi Wagon that had an original sticker price of over $70K.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    qbrozen said:

    au1994 said:
    I may be wrong, but I think that is still the N54 engine, in which case near 140k miles is a nonstarter, IMHO.
    Yes, last year for the N54 I believe.

    2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    That is really disappointing regarding the X3 having been picked up at auction a couple weeks ago. There was a time where this particular seller was excellent about finding these rare cars and restoring them cosmetically and mechanically to near-new shape. No chance that happened over the course of 2 weeks.

    Regarding the E61 535, yes it is an N54 - I'd look for an 06-07 E61 with the N52 - won't be as fast, but much less to go wrong.
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    Anyone looking for a project car? I'm sure you could knock out its entire list of needs in a weekend. :D
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    corvette said:

    Anyone looking for a project car? I'm sure you could knock out its entire list of needs in a weekend. :D

    Lol, yeah. Just pop down to the Autozone on the corner and they’ll have everything you need.

    2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • sdasda Member Posts: 6,936
    corvette said:

    Anyone looking for a project car? I'm sure you could knock out its entire list of needs in a weekend. :D

    As nice as those were, sadly a money pit.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    edited November 2020
    Hoovie needs to bid on it. The Weezard would make enough off fixing it to finish his yacht.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rJzZmNaX/1998-volvo-v90-wagon

    I really like this. Shame it sounds like the airbags might not work, plus the "unknown battery drain" issue. I love the OE look, but traction has to be a huge issue if it's putting down LS power to those 205/55/16 tires.
  • sb55sb55 Member Posts: 616
    au1994 said:
    I had a 2010 E61. So same car but mine was automatic. This one looks sweet, but high miles. I'm glad that mine was CPO, because it spent some quality time at the dealer!

    2021 Toyota Venza Limited Hybrid, 2022 Ram 2500 Laramie 6.4 Hemi, 2007 Mazda MX-5 Miata PRHT

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    corvette said:

    Hoovie needs to bid on it. The Weezard would make enough off fixing it to finish his yacht.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rJzZmNaX/1998-volvo-v90-wagon

    I really like this. Shame it sounds like the airbags might not work, plus the "unknown battery drain" issue. I love the OE look, but traction has to be a huge issue if it's putting down LS power to those 205/55/16 tires.

    I like it. Definitely sounds like a Chevy under that hood with all the squeaking and vibrating. LOL. I'm not saying that in a negative way, necessarily. Just a very familiar sound to me having grown up in a Chevy household. I'll keep an eye on that one, but shipping from Texas will hold me back, I'm sure.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    @qbrozen - you could make some nice coin acquiring these offline (not through auction sites), fixing them, driving them for a bit, and then flipping them...you basically do it unofficially now, no?
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    @qbrozen - you could make some nice coin acquiring these offline (not through auction sites), fixing them, driving them for a bit, and then flipping them...you basically do it unofficially now, no?

    Oh, I've pondered it. Have no time for my own cars, though. LOL. And the wife shot me down on starting a car biz previously.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    I mean - they'd still be your cars, you'd just flip them more often :-)
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
Sign In or Register to comment.