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Overall, they built 77,932 hardtop coupes and 10,033 convertibles. So, if the same proportioning applied to the 2+2, that would probably only be around 202 2+2 convertibles, and 1566 hardtops. So, either way, a pretty rare car!
For Tempos being bad, I think they were hit and miss in terms of build quality and longevity. Some had a 5 digit odometer for a reason, others soldiered on. Ours didn't get quirky until 150K miles or so (electrical hiccups here and there, and a leaking valve cover gasket), but for a 1985 domestic car. that's not bad.
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https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/1967-pontiac-22
P.S. ab348--I bet a '62 Bel Air bubbletop with any engine BUT a 409 now would be far-rarer than a '67 2+2, LOL!
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I'd like that turquoise one a lot better if the owner hadn't added the GTO parking lights in the grille!
I guess the Catalina was sort of stuck in a rough spot where it had to be the cheapest Pontiac, and appeal a bit on price, but at the same time, give you some reason for moving up from a Chevy. So, you'd get a nicer dash (most years, although I guess you can debate this one depending on your preferences) and a bigger standard engine, but give up a bit on seats and door panel trim.
I love the '65 Pontiac dash, but if you didn't get the Bonneville or Grand Prix, you got black vinyl in a whole lot of the dash no matter the color of the rest of the interior. Same with the '66, and in fact, same with the '66 Olds Eighty-Eights too.
But most other years, Pontiac dash gave you woodgrain which most people equated to luxury at the time.
I didn't think much of the car at the time, but fast forward to 1996, when I was going through an expensive divorce and taking on a second job delivering pizzas to keep from going bankrupt, I started thinking that hey, too bad I didn't give them $600 for that car. It would've been better for delivering pizzas than a 300,000 mile '68 Dart V8 that was lucky to get 13 mpg. Although, who knows...a lot could have happened between 1991 and 1996, so it's not a guarantee that Tempo would have still been around.
Interestingly, even in 1994, the Tempo wasn't a bad seller. About 145,000 sedans and 35,000 coupes. I imagine a lot of that was due to the low price. In contrast, the replacement Contour, for 1995, only moved 178,832 total. The Contour did a bit better in '96, with 186,263, but that was where it peaked, and it was gone after 2000.
I lost count how many times I would get a call from them somewhere in between Richmond and our farm to rescue them, the Datsun had broken down. How they managed to get to a phone amazes me, no cell phones then. Dad would get it repaired but it was seriously tired at 156k when dad finally cut bait.
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In that last pic, the one with the '51 (I think) Ford, there's a car under a cover. That one's a '63 Chevy.
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I was in Columbus yesterday, getting my first shot at a drug store on Parsons Avenue. Sketchy neighborhood but a smooth event. Visited daughter and husband in Grove City afterward.
Two-and-a-half hours from where I live, but Ohio just started giving age 60-64 people shots Thursday and I could get right in at that store. Nothing up here.
I like on the '51 how they chromed that crease on the rear quarters that helps define the shape of the taillights.
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Wonder what he is going to ask for this Lincoln when he sells it?
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The later 86+ were extremely reliable and they were the first full size domestics with sequential fuel injection.
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With a 60 Ford wagon being a hen's tooth as it is, I wonder how many 60 Meteor wagons survived. Google search brings up only one apparent modern day photo.
With the Electra, they said that it didn't handle and ride as well as they'd hoped for, and also didn't have high hopes for its reliability. Probably a good call there, as it took a few years to get the bugs worked out of these. With the 5th Ave, it got marked down mainly because it was a midsized car that guzzled like a full-size. They also got irritated by things like the power seat adjustments being hard to reach, because there wasn't much room between the side of the seat and the door. Also, the thick C-pillars, and small-ish, oddly shaped trunk.
Here's the review, in all its glory: https://www.angelfire.com/ca/mikesspot/85CR.html
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I always liked the old-skool chromed power window and door lock buttons GM used then. I detested when in later years, these buttons were cheesier-looking.
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Of course, had it been up to me, I'd have ordered the checkerboard aluminum wheels on that Monte.
Exteriors in silver back then were seldom good, though. Prior to the advent of clearcoat paints, it seemed silver cars always oxidized very quickly and left the owner with a very dull finish.
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In '72, Chevy offered a 'pewter' colored cloth interior on the Caprice, and it was a two-page spread in the brochure. I liked that.
I guess in the '80's, which is when cars started going the more in-your-face plasticky looks inside, is when gray started turning me off.
I'm really not a huge fan of gray or silver exteriors, probably because they're so common these days. Once upon a time, silver seemed like more of a luxury car color. It used to be hard to pull off, with a domestic car, because it would clash with all the chrome, but as cars de-chromed over the years, I guess it was easier to do.
I think that Monte Carlo pulls off the look pretty well, though. I might be a bit biased, because the '86 Monte Carlo I got from my Mom was a 2-tone, gray over silver. It had a burgundy interior. When it was new, it was pretty sharp. But by the time I had it, it was pretty faded. The gray on the hood and roof took the worst of it, while the silver on the decklid held up a bit better.
Car paints have definitely improved over the years, though. My Dad's '03 Regal will be 19 years old soon, as it has a 6/2002 build date. Yet the silver paint still looks new. Even in the couple of places where it has dents, the paint has held up. It never got weak and cracked. However, the car was carported for much of its life, from roughly summer of 2004 through spring of 2017. My old 2000 Intrepid was also silver, and was still nice and shiny at the age of 10 years old, when it got totaled. The headlights were starting to seriously glaze over, though. So I guess you win some battles, and lose some battles.
One of my great-aunts had a Monte Carlo, around an '84 or so. It was white, with a blue interior. Nice car, too. She had gotten into an accident with it, and it was totaled out. She ended up with a new Intrepid. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think it was a 2001. She didn't have that one long though, because the sloping roofline messed with her beehive hairdo, so she traded for an Impala. It must be nice, to have enough money that you can just swap cars to suit your fashion taste!
I had an 04 Focus in that Light Tundra color. Fun car, larger 2.3 engines, 5 speed stick, moonroof and heated cloth seats. I just got tired of larger vehicles trying to intimidate me while driving it.
It also had somewhat dull paint, I assume a non-clearcoat?