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I’ve dealt with polls/surveys in the political realm and I know a voluntary survey open to all is rarely-if ever-accurate. In the case of CR, the only people counted are CR subscribers who choose to respond. That’s not anywhere close to a statistically significant sample.
That said, a good pollster can get a accurate result from a very small group if that group is chosen carefully. A friend who is a pollster conducted a poll two weeks before the 2018 primary and I believe he polled less than 1,000 people. I didn’t find out until after the election but the poll had me up by 3 points with a margin of error of +/- 3 points.
Seems that some pollsters got the general election in 2016 wrong well beyond the margin of error. Sample size corrects a lot of errors.I won by 5 points, and he nailed every other country race as well.
@driver100 - most drivers could easily swap their internal combustion cars for an EV considering the 250-300 mile range of many new EV introductions. I would have purchased a Tesla if I had a source of electricity to charge it - but I don’t because my condo has no access for charging.
@abacomike I'd like 500 miles if it is going to take me 20 minutes or more to charge......and 500 miles will probably be more like 400 miles if I use the a/c and radio - maybe going up hills uses more power, I don't know. One review I just read was for a Soul electric....which starts at almost $40k btw....and they made it so you can just have heat for the driver to save power....are those things I even want to have to think about?
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2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My theory on that was that, moreso than any past election, folks were secretive of their voting to avoid confrontation.
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Sample size is meaningless if the sample doesn't represent the whole population. Say you are doing a political poll and the likely voters are 55% of party 'A' and 45% of party 'B' and your sample size is 60% party 'B' your results will be way off regardless of the sample size.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My question with the Soul is how much power is actually saved by just providing heat for the driver? Will it extend my range by just a few miles or 20 or more miles? And will that really make a difference in my normal driving?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Now the people who watch her and make her rich....I can’t say the same for them.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSFRbeRdUOI
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
My theory on that was that, moreso than any past election, folks were secretive of their voting to avoid confrontation.
True. I also think many didn't bother to vote because almost all of the polls predicted the same winner.
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One of the issues brought up was that the sample size had an over representation of one of the political parties which led to errors in the polls.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
That is a hard one to answer. The range on the Soul is 243 miles. The vent can blow just on one seat to save power. A good explanation is here, but I don't think they know how much savings there will be, but when you have to start doing all this stuff to add a few miles it concerns me.
https://blog.consumerguide.com/long-term-update-kia-soul-ev-3/
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2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
https://blog.consumerguide.com/long-term-update-kia-soul-ev-3/
It would concern me too but not for the same reasons. I would be more concerned about lack of planning from the driver more than anything else. Much like running out of gas. Lets be honest 243 miles is more than plenty of range for the daily driver. Anything that long or longer usually is known in advanced and can be planned for. I could likely drive that car to and from work all week with both the A/C and the heater working full blast fighting it out, the radio going full blast with all the lights on going uphill with a head wind both ways and still have power left at the end of the week.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
After 2020, some of the pollsters seem to just throw up their hands and admit they don’t know. Others (and I tend to agree with this theory) think that there is a certain segment of the population which does not trust government, nor the media. And for d___ sure not the pollsters. So they just flat aren’t going to take part in any polls or surveys. And if a significant part of the population refuses, absolutely, to take part in any polling, then how are you going to have an accurate poll?
While I myself am not a part of that segment of the population who trusts no one, it would be very difficult for anyone to get my responses to a poll. I have no landline, I often do not answer the cell phone if I don’t recognize the number. And when I do answer the call, and they say, “We’re doing a survey”, I immediately hang up as I know the odds are 100 or 1000 to 1 that they are just trying to sell me something that I don’t want.
Given all of that, how can pollsters expect to get accurate results in this day and age?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Here is the problem with respect to election polling: the pollster needs an accurate method to determine who are likely voters and then he/she must select the correct percentage of Democratic, Republican, and Independent voters that will reflect the actual turnout.
Now, if you want to release a confirmation poll you select a much larger percentage of voters from the demographic that is giving you the answers you want. Pollsters get away with this manipulation because no one-least of all the media-ever checks the crosstabs.
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PUG at Costco is $3.05.9 a gallon which is 45 cents less than the next closest price at a gas station within a 4 mile radius. That’s why I maintain my $65.00 yearly membership. It pays for itself after 7 tankfuls of fuel. I fill up twice a month, on average - so by May of each year, the membership fee is reimbursed in the form of savings on gasoline.
I rarely shop at Costco - only when they have a sale going on for coffee, cheese, and certain meats like roasted chicken.
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PUG at Costco is $3.05.9 a gallon which is 45 cents less than the next closest price at a gas station within a 4 mile radius. That’s why I maintain my $65.00 yearly membership. It pays for itself after 7 tankfuls of fuel. I fill up twice a month, on average - so by May of each year, the membership fee is reimbursed in the form of savings on gasoline.
I rarely shop at Costco - only when they have a sale going on for coffee, cheese, and certain meats like roasted chicken.
Mike…I agree. Well worth the membership fee for the gas savings alone. I do shop in the store, too. I love their Kirkland Vitamin Water. I also love their Organic fish and beef. They always seem to have a good selection of Campbell’s soups, that I enjoy, too. Few other things I like…..their roasted whole chickens are the best…better than I make at home and cheaper, too.
Plus, when I travel (like down to the land of @kyfdx and @roadburner), they have liquor stores that offer some mighty fine spirits at a very good price.
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What are the odds that if you showed those guide lines to that nitwit she wouldn’t be able to read it?
jmonroe
Same here (even further now) so BJ’s will have to do. Why on earth they aren’t in Deptford I’ll never know.
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Personally, I wouldn't answer a survey about who I am voting for....with some of the whackos out there it could be a way to find out some information about me.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
It's not a random suggestion:
What are the odds that if you showed those guide lines to that nitwit she wouldn’t be able to read it?
jmonroe
PUG at Costco is $3.05.9 a gallon which is 45 cents less than the next closest price at a gas station within a 4 mile radius. That’s why I maintain my $65.00 yearly membership. It pays for itself after 7 tankfuls of fuel. I fill up twice a month, on average - so by May of each year, the membership fee is reimbursed in the form of savings on gasoline.
I rarely shop at Costco - only when they have a sale going on for coffee, cheese, and certain meats like roasted chicken.
That’s good for premium. The gouge is on up here with prices going up a nickel every 12 hours. That’s interesting since the affected pipeline ends in Linden NJ.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8R7kZGvAUk
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Oh that's going to spill like you wouldn't believe.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I am afraid we are getting close to the great filter.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Well, she was double bagging so what’s the problem?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Finally got the car back and all is well. Made a connect call to Genesis and it worked perfectly. I tried roadside assistance and that worked. So now I get to enjoy my new car. 🤓😇
2021 Genesis G90
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