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23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Getting back to the theme of the thread, when I told the dealer I was going to pass on the Touareg he was nice but certainly persistent. They offered me $45k for my Model3, which after factoring in the tax credit I received from Colorado, is more than I paid for it 9 months and 10,500 miles ago.
@qbrozen: Did this 2020 M2C go through the auctions?
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Thanks!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks. Probably a wild goose chase as it’s at the BMW Store in Cincinnati and they are usually quite proud of their inventory and tend to really lowball trades.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
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I tried Carvana but it's too new, however I do see a few used ones starting to show up here and there. Overpriced for sure but depending on what they are going for at auction I may be enticed to try one as a hold over until the Rivian arrives.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
FYI, based on what I’m seeing used ones priced at, you can get one far cheaper new. 18-20% off sticker plus another $2k if costco member and another $500 for affiliate/penfed.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
>> 2012 FORD FUSION SEL
>> V6 FWD 93k, light blue over tan leather.
>> Clean, maintained & no accidents per carfax
>> No roof, automatic (she'll complain), alloys, OK tires.
This car has now 108k, a recent crack in the rear bumper cover, and is otherwise clean... call it B minus on the outside, and A minus indoors.
@qbrozen had opined recently, assuming a car without issues and 104k -- thanks for that!
>> No real comps but looks to me like $7k is still a decent number [fair retail].
I had figured on a quick craigslist sale, list at $5,900 and take what i can get.
Yesterday I took the afternoon off and went to the largest and sleaziest car dealer in the area, Sundance Chevrolet ("Yee-Haw!") and asked for a quote. I knew they'd be hungry for decent merchandise. We wandered from 4,200 to 4,500, then shook at $4,750. So net of taxes, $150 to drive 18 months and fifteen thousand miles; 2021 is a wondrous year in the used-car business. Meanwhile I'm glad to not have to deal with all the craigslist flakes; my last outing had cranks outnumbering real folks at least five to one. Can't imagine it's gotten better.
Just checked -- the car is already listed on their website for the low low price of $7,900.
I'm loving the Impreza. A much more likeable car than the Outback. Not exactly sporty, but much less ponderous. Took me half a second to get used to the manual transmission. It is the korrekt way to drive. Next are some light modifications.. the base steering heel is truly nasty and will be covered with Wheelskins leather pronto.
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FYI, based on what I’m seeing used ones priced at, you can get one far cheaper new. 18-20% off sticker plus another $2k if costco member and another $500 for affiliate/penfed.
Thanks, that's what I was thinking as well. This would be a temporary vehicle until I get the Rivian, so maybe 6 - 9 months? It's not something I'd look to make money on but as long as I didn't lose a ton, which based on the used pricing I saw it seemed possible but obviously it's a huge unknown.
Unfortunately I let my Costco membership lapse when I got the Tesla, as a single guy I really only used it for gas, wish I had it now.
But curious where you're seeing 18 - 20% off sticker? The three dealers here aren't showing any discounts on their websites but as @michaell and @breld and I were chatting about last night, one local dealer has 30 in stock and I can't imagine they're flying off lots.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I have no idea whether that's true. But I did bring up the subject with a group of younger people at work, about 2 or 3 years ago. There were about 12 or 15 people present, average age late 20s, and I asked how many of them could drive a standard transmission car. The answer was discouraging. Not a single one of the women, and only 2 or 3 men.
That was encouraging (though it won't make any difference in the end).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
So the day I take delivery of an Impreza, Honda announces a non turbo hatch stick. Grrr.
Still not a fan of pushbutton e brakes and digital dashboards...
Edit: Weirdly, I think both Edmunds and C&D have reported worse performance numbers for the turbo in the new model, compared to the old turbo, despite it having more power and very little weight gain.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I drive lots of one and two-mile trips. No good w a small turbo engine, esp. with subzero nights in winter. And yes, gen 10 was turbo only w the stick.
I can’t really drive a manual. I mean… I can and have in a pinch but not with any regularity that I consider myself proficient at it.
Put another way … You can boil pasta but that doesn’t mean you can cook.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
"Sir, please explain to the jury just how you came to total out your car and kill 7 innocent people."
"Well, it's like this. A Van Halen song came on and I was trying to pump up the volume and ...."
and I would assume, since it is all electronic and computer controlled, that it would not allow you to shift into reverse at speed. Regardless of what you did with the dial.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Not many people are going to spend $1,900 to fix a very small oil leak on a car with 163k miles. Back when I drove used Cadillacs, there were people who highly criticized the Northstar engine for oil leaks. The oil leaks were really minor, did not cause most owners to add oil between changes. But it highly upset some people with spotless garage floors.
@28firefighter got a much better Wrangler deal than I did.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Maybe. Washington taxes on the rebate ($787) and registration (another $700) ate up a lot of my discount discount. I’m quite happy and don’t have any plans to flip.
Right now, Carvana has dropped their price for my X1 down to $25k (think it was as high as $26k or so). Am not getting impression dealers will offer much more. I can sell in this silly market to capture equity but then I need to also overpay in this silly market. How inflated is the 2019 RDX base AWD at $33k? 30% or so like the rest of the market?
Maybe I just buy the BMW and wait out the market and then try to swap for RDX in next 12-24 months? Should I try getting a better deal on the RDX at auction through an auction guy to avoid the dealer juice? Many thanks for any insight.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Lots to unpack here.
BMW is being a bit of a PITA with 3rd-party buyouts right now. Just takes a little more work on your part but can be done.
Is it really worth $10k more to get a vehicle that is minimally larger (12” longer, from what I see)? It is only 1 yr newer. Seems like a failing proposition, IMHO.
In any case, as to the numbers, $33k is pretty cheap since that is what they are doing at auction. But $25k for yours is low, provided it is an xdrive with monroof (at a minimum) and no bad history. If you continue to consider this, make sure you get other bids.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Kind of a false economy, though. That’s like saying “I got my paycheck today, so my groceries were free.”
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Maybe I am wrong but I was looking at it like this. This was a lease takeover so I put nothing down. I was paid to take it over, actually. I can buy the car for $23k which is below current market levels but not normal. That equity will disappear once the market rationalizes. If I sell it now, I have a window to cash in on the equity which will not last. Since I didn’t buy the car or put any down to start the lease that equity feels like “free” equity to me if I unlock it, no?
Maybe I am wrong but I was looking at it like this. This was a lease takeover so I put nothing down. I was paid to take it over, actually. I can buy the car for $23k which is below current market levels but not normal. That equity will disappear once the market rationalizes. If I sell it now, I have a window to cash in on the equity which will not last. Since I didn’t buy the car or put any down to start the lease that equity feels like “free” equity to me if I unlock it, no?
I agree... of course, if the market is having you "overpay" for the Acura, as well. And then it rationalizes, you won't be any farther ahead. But, as @qbrozen noted, that's auction value for the Acura, so if you want/need it, it seems like a good deal.
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You can rationalize it any way you want. Haha.
But it most definitely is not free because you made monthly payments. So it is like getting a bit of a refund. That refund is YOUR money, however. Using it on a new vehicle is taking YOUR money out of YOUR pocket. It just doesn’t feel that way because it is money you weren’t counting on. Doesn’t make it any less valuable, however.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Now all sides of the market seem pretty crazy, and I would hate to be trying to replace a really old vehicle right now.
They're asking $53,900 which is about $3,500 over the original MSRP