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Most likely when the old chips were cheap and plentiful they had no incentive to modernize and upgrade. Now, they do!
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Since you’re still around, I’m sure you’re right.
jmonroe
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Remember a time before lots of processors and chips? BX remembers…
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Citroen, that is. BX is the model.
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I also remember reading a few years back that the wiring was the most expensive component in a new car, costing more than the engine or the transmission. I assume "wiring" would include the computer chips. So designing and implementing a new electrical or electronics system, complete wiring harness, computers, etc, would be roughly equivalent to designing an entirely new car. Not something to be undertaken lightly.
And I remember reading that the chips which are in such short supply for automobiles are old and "simple", which would mean "cheap", and would mean the chip foundries would not be interested in ramping up production. So yes, redesigning your cars to use more modern computers could alleviate the shortage, but how long does it take to design a new car model and bring it into production? Because that is pretty much what they would be doing.
While working through the final steps to list the auction this caught my eye:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDWXQvMa/1990-eagle-talon-tsi-awd
I always liked these, great styling (IMO) and the 5-speed AWD combo seems like it would be fun.
I didn't overhear all of the convo about the title, but $108k sounds like that has to be a nice profit. Is the delay due to financing and the need to put a lien on the title? It would be tempting to try to find a short term unsecured loan (or combination of them) to just pay cash, get the title, sell to CarMax, and just pay off the loan(s).
I just don't like driving around with temp tags.
If someone looks at that thing and doesn’t know it’s a Citroen, they shouldn’t be hanging out on car forums. Mon dieu!
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I like the Talon. Nice bonus that it’s already in CO. Maybe you can see it ahead of the close?
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Tesla's Austin factory alone has the capacity to make 1 million vehicles a year when it gets up to speed. A big car factory from other companies can make about a quarter of a million a year, and so this one plant by itself is equal to four big factories.
If GM and others can solve their chip problems in a year or two, and start running their factories at full tilt, the pent-up demand might mean record vehicle sales in a couple of years.
Annual vehicle sales in the US topped 17 million from 2015-2019, but it seems like this year we'll be lucky to make it to 14 million.
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/usa-auto-industry-total-sales-figures/
Could 2024 top 18 million? Could 2025 reach 19 million? Ford's CEO was recently predicting an EV price war in a few years, and I think he could be right.
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If they got that info from Elon, it is probably more like 250k anyway. ;b
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If they got that info from Elon, it is probably more like 250k anyway. ;b
Also, the Toyota plant in KY has a capacity of 500K vehicles a year, and the Honda plant in Ohio builds more than 400K Honda and Acura vehicles a year.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
The next closest to me 1st generation TSX with a 6 -Speed has 140K miles on it and they are asking $10,295 on Car Gurus 91 days w/ 5 owners). The next lowest mileage car has 97.5K miles on it and they are asking $13,899 (on Car Gurus 68 days w/ 1 owner).
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Honda plant in Indiana has a capacity of 250K/yr.
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2,100 miles per year? Almost too low. Great car though. Silver over black would be a turn off. As is that price!
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Obviously things were a bit different this time last year when I bought the Defender but I looked and it took Colorado 3 months to send the title for it so we'll see if things are any faster this time.
@xwesx I too don't like driving with temp tags, I can't really say why but it just bugs me which is a bit of a pain for a CCBA.
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2,100 miles per year? Almost too low. Great car though. Silver over black would be a turn off. As is that price!
The stock photo shows silver over black. In the description it is Arctic Blue with Black guts.
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Only because Subaru gets the balance of the capacity in Indiana.
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That’s when Mitsubishi (who actually made these cars in the U.S. with the then Chrysler Corp) built some really good cars…Galant (with the same drivetrain as the Tallon/Eclipse), Montero, and even a luxury car called the Diamanté.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
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I'm not sure what this means?
Toyota has a truck plant in Indiana that produced 425K vehicles, last year.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
3000GT goes without saying.
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2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
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Toyota has a truck plant in Indiana that produced 425K vehicles, last year.
I thought the Subaru plant in Indiana was shared with another brand. Could be Toyota, since the two companies share development (BRZ/GT86 and Solterra/bZ4X).
Memory seems not to be as good as when I was younger.
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Memory seems not to be as good as when I was younger.
When it was built, it was with Isuzu. Not sure if they have anyone else, now. It's in Lafayette.
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They did some Camry assembly under contract from Toyota until 2016 when that was phased out. Just Subie products coming out of there now.
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Different times. People still liked cars then. I’m too lazy to look it up but SUVs and trucks must make up well over 75% of the market now. Back then it was probably much less
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Found this article (link below) I was close it’s now 80% trucks and SUVs. In 2010 it was 52%, so I’m guessing in the early 90s it was maybe 40%.
https://jalopnik.com/trucks-and-suvs-are-now-over-80-percent-of-new-car-sale-1848427797/amp
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Different times. People still liked cars then. I’m too lazy to look it up but SUVs and trucks must make up well over 75% of the market now. Back then it was probably much less
So true. Just like today where every car company has different flavors of SUVs or (I really hate this term) Crossovers, back then manufacturers had different coupes.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I just walked thru a parking garage that links two buildings. Sedans, coupes were the exception, probably 9 of 10 were CUV/SUVs, trucks. I think I was writing this as tjc78 posted his. Sadly seems consistent.
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
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Are you trying to say Elon provided those numbers?
jmonroe
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I like this.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3LEqJQE0/1996-ford-f-150-eddie-bauer-4x4
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