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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464

    stickguy said:

    stickguy said:

    I should go and buy this one. The museum where the auction is is less than 20 minutes from my new house.

    https://www.saratogaautoauction.org/vehicles/2088/1976-triumph-tr6

    I think they moved the auction over to near the Racino this year. That’s a shame since in the past they held it at SPAC right behind the museum.

    You should go even if you don’t want to sit through the auction. All the cars are displayed.
    I did not realize. but I know where that is. could be fun if you don't need to buy a ticket or anything. I am sure the wife will love it, as long as I take her to Druther's after (or maybe before!)
    The past few times I’ve attended I think there was a $20 admission fee but that was offset by the full color brochure which itself was worth it for the photos and descriptions. Just stay away from the $5 hot dogs and you’ll have enough money left over to gamble at the casino.
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    That’s a bargain compared to what you’ll pay for a dog to watch a sporting event here in the Burgh:

    $7.50 at PNC Park to watch the hapless Pirates trying to play Major League Baseball.

    $6.09 at Acrisure Stadium (formerly Heinz Field) to watch the struggling Steelers play football.

    jmonroe
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333

    @breld said:
    I think I’m just gonna take the approach of providing a recap of my punches once a year. :)

    Don’t do that! How do we live vicariously?

    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,221
    edited September 2022

    @breld said:
    I think I’m just gonna take the approach of providing a recap of my punches once a year. :)

    You could never give an accurate annual recap of vehicle purchases. We need an hourly play by play 🤣😂

    Curious why you would sell the Rivian. It seems like money in the bank with MSRP going up. But I guess it could depreciate wildly if they go belly up, better battery technology/ range, etc.

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,698
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @breld said:

    I think I’m just gonna take the approach of providing a recap of my punches once a year. :)

    You could never give an accurate annual recap of vehicle purchases. We need an hourly play by play 🤣😂

    Curious why you would sell the Rivian. It seems like money in the bank with MSRP going up. But I guess it could depreciate wildly if they go belly up, better battery technology/ range, etc.


    Yeah, that’s exactly why I sold it quickly…bird in hand and all that. I figure as more Rivians become available and the next EV thing comes out, the premium folks will pay will just flatten. It’s already done that since they were first released. As it stands, the MSRP went up by $15k, I was able to sell it for $25k more than original MSRP, so win-win. Someone got one early for a $10k premium, and if I choose to turn around and get another Rivian (SUV), at least I still am $10k better.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,665
    @nyccarguy …thought of you while watching this last night….

    https://youtu.be/kyHiN_po__w
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    Sunday we went to the Homearama new home show. On the way we checked out the BMW and M-B lots for interesting vehicles, neither had anything I'd want- unless I had a $100k acquisition budget. BMW did have an older couple checking out an F83 M4 to wear- I'd bet the farm that both of them thought the car had a V6...

    This year Homearama was held at Norton Commons- showcasing big houses on zero clearance lots. Ugh. There were ten houses, and only one had a four car garage. Another had the only decent HTS out of the 10- a 7.1 configuration with a 4k projector. Most all of the others had only a small soundbar and an equally undersized subwoofer- and I can only imagine what those "professional installations" cost. Meh.

    On the way home we ran through a fairly significant downpour(I was of course cheating almost certain death by driving my RWD M235i). Granted, 60 mph was about the maximum safe speed but of course several appliance drivers chose to stay in the left lane driving 45 mph-or below-with their emergency flashers activated. My wife was even more exasperated by it than I was. Unbelievable.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729

    Sunday we went to the Homearama new home show. On the way we checked out the BMW and M-B lots for interesting vehicles, neither had anything I'd want- unless I had a $100k acquisition budget. BMW did have an older couple checking out an F83 M4 to wear- I'd bet the farm that both of them thought the car had a V6...

    This year Homearama was held at Norton Commons- showcasing big houses on zero clearance lots. Ugh. There were ten houses, and only one had a four car garage. Another had the only decent HTS out of the 10- a 7.1 configuration with a 4k projector. Most all of the others had only a small soundbar and an equally undersized subwoofer- and I can only imagine what those "professional installations" cost. Meh.

    On the way home we ran through a fairly significant downpour(I was of course cheating almost certain death by driving my RWD M235i). Granted, 60 mph was about the maximum safe speed but of course several appliance drivers chose to stay in the left lane driving 45 mph-or below-with their emergency flashers activated. My wife was even more exasperated by it than I was. Unbelievable.

    I hate left lane campers in the rain.

    I hate left lane campers in the sun.

    I hate left lane campers in the shadows.

    I hate left lane campers in the night.

    Good start to a children's book here.

    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    edited September 2022
    2018 OG M2 sounds 100% better with one of the best 6 cylinder exhausts I've heard over the M2C '19+ which sounds "meh." My S4 and TTS both sound "meh" too, to be fair.

    The Macan Turbo is indeed of interest to me. I got to test drive a black one nearby. The 3.6 does fit the Macan way better than a measly 3.0 or 2.9. It has more power more of the time. The torque starts from zero as the 3.6 can propel the SUV no matter the boost (or lack of boost). The top end flattens out over 5K on the way to 7K redline, but it's still good. You don't really feel the 400 HP until you look down and your going 110 MPH on your test drive (in Mexico for the record). The Macan hides your speed really well.... something the TTS is good for I suppose; less tickets; you feel like your flying at 100 in the TTS. The Macan just felt like it was loafing about and dawdling; even at triple digits.

    This model does what you want in a speedy bigger/heavier vehicle; which is to have an engine that "hides" the weight well. While the new 2.9 has a zesty and fiery top end, it struggles to motivate 4,450 pounds otherwise.

    CAUTION: There is a sticker that says M&S top speed 150 MPH. This is your warning that you have SUV tires.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,221
    edited September 2022

    @andres3 said:
    I hate left lane campers in the rain.

    I hate left lane campers in the sun.

    I hate left lane campers in the shadows.

    I hate left lane campers in the night.

    Good start to a children's book here.

    But do you like green eggs and ham?

    I do not like them, Sam (or @andres3) I am.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,103
    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,103
    nyccarguy said:

    andres3 said:

    2018 OG M2 sounds 100% better with one of the best 6 cylinder exhausts I've heard over the M2C '19+ which sounds "meh." My S4 and TTS both sound "meh" too, to be fair.

    The Macan Turbo is indeed of interest to me. I got to test drive a black one nearby. The 3.6 does fit the Macan way better than a measly 3.0 or 2.9. It has more power more of the time. The torque starts from zero as the 3.6 can propel the SUV no matter the boost (or lack of boost). The top end flattens out over 5K on the way to 7K redline, but it's still good. You don't really feel the 400 HP until you look down and your going 110 MPH on your test drive (in Mexico for the record). The Macan hides your speed really well.... something the TTS is good for I suppose; less tickets; you feel like your flying at 100 in the TTS. The Macan just felt like it was loafing about and dawdling; even at triple digits.

    This model does what you want in a speedy bigger/heavier vehicle; which is to have an engine that "hides" the weight well. While the new 2.9 has a zesty and fiery top end, it struggles to motivate 4,450 pounds otherwise.

    CAUTION: There is a sticker that says M&S top speed 150 MPH. This is your warning that you have SUV tires.

    Most test drives are maybe 4 right turns? You made it all the way to Mexico? and back?
    50 miles south will get him to Mexico, then right turn, right turn to head north again.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,103
    Just to prove my point about the cost of used cars, I thought I'd look up something that has had my interest since it was released - Honda Accord 2.0T Sport, with the manual transmission.

    Nationwide search, under 40,000 miles.

    12 matches.

    Lowest price was $21,495, highest was $37,990. Average price is $31,293.

    Weren't they about that much, new?

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236

    @roadburner said:
    Norton Commons

    You misspelled “Stepford.” Also, I thought that subdivision had been completely built out by now.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,255
    The town in CT I recently moved from has a newer street named Wisteria Lane.
    I wonder how many people living on the street got the joke?
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    Michaell said:

    Just to prove my point about the cost of used cars, I thought I'd look up something that has had my interest since it was released - Honda Accord 2.0T Sport, with the manual transmission.

    Nationwide search, under 40,000 miles.

    12 matches.

    Lowest price was $21,495, highest was $37,990. Average price is $31,293.

    Weren't they about that much, new?

    RARE 6-SPEED!

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333

    @Michaell said:
    Just to prove my point about the cost of used cars, I thought I'd look up something that has had my interest since it was released - Honda Accord 2.0T Sport, with the manual transmission.

    Nationwide search, under 40,000 miles.

    12 matches.

    Lowest price was $21,495, highest was $37,990. Average price is $31,293.

    Weren't they about that much, new?

    $32,130 new depending on what accessories it came with from the port.

    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    nyccarguy said:

    andres3 said:

    2018 OG M2 sounds 100% better with one of the best 6 cylinder exhausts I've heard over the M2C '19+ which sounds "meh." My S4 and TTS both sound "meh" too, to be fair.

    The Macan Turbo is indeed of interest to me. I got to test drive a black one nearby. The 3.6 does fit the Macan way better than a measly 3.0 or 2.9. It has more power more of the time. The torque starts from zero as the 3.6 can propel the SUV no matter the boost (or lack of boost). The top end flattens out over 5K on the way to 7K redline, but it's still good. You don't really feel the 400 HP until you look down and your going 110 MPH on your test drive (in Mexico for the record). The Macan hides your speed really well.... something the TTS is good for I suppose; less tickets; you feel like your flying at 100 in the TTS. The Macan just felt like it was loafing about and dawdling; even at triple digits.

    This model does what you want in a speedy bigger/heavier vehicle; which is to have an engine that "hides" the weight well. While the new 2.9 has a zesty and fiery top end, it struggles to motivate 4,450 pounds otherwise.

    CAUTION: There is a sticker that says M&S top speed 150 MPH. This is your warning that you have SUV tires.

    Most test drives are maybe 4 right turns? You made it all the way to Mexico? and back?
    It was a Mexican Macan of course! :expressionless:

    Actually, almost all of my test drives lately have been solo. Either it's a COVID betterment leftover, or they just trust a guy that leaves an Audi in the parking lot while on his test drive. BMW came along for the ride in the OG M2, and Honda with the used 240i. Hyundai, and other dealerships have been letting me "have at it" including CarMax.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,103
    andres3 said:

    Actually, almost all of my test drives lately have been solo. Either it's a COVID betterment leftover, or they just trust a guy that leaves an Audi in the parking lot while on his test drive. BMW came along for the ride in the OG M2, and Honda with the used 240i. Hyundai, and other dealerships have been letting me "have at it" including CarMax.

    On my trip to SD last month, my sister and I had a mixed bag of test drive experiences:

    Jag/LR dealer let us go alone with the X1 and Corsair.
    Volvo dealer accompanied us on the XC60 test drive.
    Lexus dealer accompanied us on the XC40 test drive (the one she ultimately bought).

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    edited September 2022
    Michaell said:

    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


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    This particular line caught my eye.

    Unfortunately, the industry currently seems incapable of (and sometimes disinterested in) increasing output

    I have been wondering about this exact thing. Do the car manufacturers really want to increase production, or do the present circumstances suit them? It has become increasingly obvious to everyone that the new car dealerships love things exactly the way they are. But I kept assuming that the manufacturers would do everything in their power to increase production. But after all this time, I'm really beginning to wonder about that.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,103
    henryn said:

    Michaell said:

    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


    Full article


    This particular line caught my eye.

    Unfortunately, the industry currently seems incapable of (and sometimes disinterested in) increasing output

    I have been wondering about this exact thing. Do the car manufacturers really want to increase production, or do the present circumstances suit them? It has become increasingly obvious to everyone that the new car dealerships love things exactly the way they are. But I kept assuming that the manufacturers would do everything in their power to increase production. But after all this time, I'm really beginning to wonder about that.

    Good point.

    I suspect there were some bean counters at HQ advocating just this, but nobody wanted to be the first company to slash output to raise per unit profits.

    The pandemic and the resulting supply chain issues forced everyone to do exactly that, at the same time.

    We may never return to what we considered "normal".

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    My #1 reason for GM to exist is/was to "flood" the market with car fodder. Now they can't even do that! :blush:
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,538

    @Michaell said:
    Just to prove my point about the cost of used cars, I thought I'd look up something that has had my interest since it was released - Honda Accord 2.0T Sport, with the manual transmission.

    Nationwide search, under 40,000 miles.

    12 matches.

    Lowest price was $21,495, highest was $37,990. Average price is $31,293.

    Weren't they about that much, new?

    Sounds exactly like the GTI market.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    edited September 2022
    Michaell said:

    henryn said:

    Michaell said:

    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


    Full article


    This particular line caught my eye.

    Unfortunately, the industry currently seems incapable of (and sometimes disinterested in) increasing output

    I have been wondering about this exact thing. Do the car manufacturers really want to increase production, or do the present circumstances suit them? It has become increasingly obvious to everyone that the new car dealerships love things exactly the way they are. But I kept assuming that the manufacturers would do everything in their power to increase production. But after all this time, I'm really beginning to wonder about that.
    Good point.

    I suspect there were some bean counters at HQ advocating just this, but nobody wanted to be the first company to slash output to raise per unit profits.

    The pandemic and the resulting supply chain issues forced everyone to do exactly that, at the same time.

    We may never return to what we considered "normal".

    I fear the same thing as well. A recession and the accompanying recovery would probably fix that. Not that I am hoping or advocating for a recession.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    edited September 2022
    Michaell said:

    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


    Full article

    For what it’s worth we’re seeing a big increase in inventory at our wholesale lot. That means a bunch of cars will be showing up at car dealers soon. Not a lot of specialty cars although we do have BMWs, Audis, Volvos and a few Subarus.

    Too bad we’re keeping most of them until 60k miles these days. Still, it might cause some downward pressure on prices.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    sda said:

    I know this is anti-CCBA and as much as I’d like to buy something newer I am doing my best to maintain our current vehicles to avoid paying today’s overinflated prices.

    Ditto but it’s making me sad.😭

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    Michaell said:

    henryn said:

    Michaell said:

    Nobody should hold their breath regarding used car prices:

    Despite some heartening news in terms of wholesale valuations, Black Book (another Cox property) still expects used cars to be valued 30 to 40 percent above their pre-COVID levels for the next 12 to 24 months. That’s great news if you’re planning on selling and a nightmare if you’re looking to buy.

    "We are in this elevated price environment for the foreseeable future," Yurchenko said. "The main reason is inventory. We're not going to have the same level of used inventory coming back to the market in the next several years."


    Full article


    This particular line caught my eye.

    Unfortunately, the industry currently seems incapable of (and sometimes disinterested in) increasing output

    I have been wondering about this exact thing. Do the car manufacturers really want to increase production, or do the present circumstances suit them? It has become increasingly obvious to everyone that the new car dealerships love things exactly the way they are. But I kept assuming that the manufacturers would do everything in their power to increase production. But after all this time, I'm really beginning to wonder about that.
    Good point.

    I suspect there were some bean counters at HQ advocating just this, but nobody wanted to be the first company to slash output to raise per unit profits.

    The pandemic and the resulting supply chain issues forced everyone to do exactly that, at the same time.

    We may never return to what we considered "normal".

    well, it can only last (at least for mainstream brands) until the first company decides to go for market share. Some company like Hyundai could crank out product and steal all the sales from the companies that are trying to do everything via orders and no stock units on the lot.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,029
    I know some people love alarmist conspiracy theories, but this one really doesn’t hold up. Manufacturers have massive investments in fixed assets that they need to be productive in order to pay for them. If they do not, the markets will begin to punish their stock price.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,499
    edited September 2022
    Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

    Next thing you know, you're going to actually keep the vehicle you acquire. It's as if the thing is supposed to be useful and take you places. . . for more than six months.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435

    sda said:

    I know this is anti-CCBA and as much as I’d like to buy something newer I am doing my best to maintain our current vehicles to avoid paying today’s overinflated prices.

    Ditto but it’s making me sad.😭
    hasn't slowed Breld down any.

    In some ways it is like buying a house recently. yeah, the new place costs more, but your trade is also worst more so it should be a wash.

    like a wise man once said, the only difference, is the difference.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333

    @cdnpinhead said:
    Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

    Next thing you know, you're going to actually keep the vehicle you acquire. It's as if the thing is supposed to be useful and take you places. . . for more than six months.

    This isn’t where I parked my car.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    that rememinded me to check on my 2022 Hybrid order. so just shot an Email to the dealer to check on that. It seems to be confirmed now (as much as anything with Ford ever is) that if you have not been assigned a Vin and build date yet, your order is being rolled over to 2023 MY. But Ford does not bother to actually let you know when it happens.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,190

    @sda said:
    I know this is anti-CCBA and as much as I’d like to buy something newer I am doing my best to maintain our current vehicles to avoid paying today’s overinflated prices.

    Depending on what you have and what you want to buy, it might actually be a good time to buy! All about the delta.

    Not a good time to add a car, I’ll admit.

    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    edited September 2022
    It seems to be all over the map with the inventory situation. Listening to the Maverick order stories matches what I see on the Jeep forums about order times. @oldfarmer50 reports from the frontlines that inventories are going up in his world. It looks like my MiL might have to stop driving soon but the buy offers on the Outback I just found for her are terrible. I know I overpaid in this market but they are really bad.

    When I shop the local lots, there’s still not a lot of new inventory. It gets difficult to keep up with since most of the dealers count in transit inventory as on the lot. And I would guess most of those are sold.

    We’d like to replace the X1 but are not going to do something crazy. It fits the bill fine and is only sitting at 50k miles but my wife would just like to have fresh and new. I know we all understand that!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435

    I’m not changing any time soon. Wife wanted no part or replacing her car and that was more of. Space thing. I’ll reorganize the garage this weekend and see if I can fit both.

    My car only if I traded out for a hybrid and that depends on whether I can trade the old one in for top dollar.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,665
    Michaell said:

    Just to prove my point about the cost of used cars, I thought I'd look up something that has had my interest since it was released - Honda Accord 2.0T Sport, with the manual transmission.

    Nationwide search, under 40,000 miles.

    12 matches.

    Lowest price was $21,495, highest was $37,990. Average price is $31,293.

    Weren't they about that much, new?

    Accords, especially the upper trims (Sport and Touring) are tough gets right now. Even the lower trims, while out there, are in the “few” category at the dealerships I looked at. That’s for new. I would imagine the used market for these cars is even scarcer.

    Want a 2.0T Sport, or a Touring Hybrid? Fuhgeddaboutit!
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    stickguy said:

    I’m not changing any time soon. Wife wanted no part or replacing her car and that was more of. Space thing. I’ll reorganize the garage this weekend and see if I can fit both.

    My car only if I traded out for a hybrid and that depends on whether I can trade the old one in for top dollar.

    If it’s any consolation, salt covered cars rust slower if kept outside in cold weather.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435

    stickguy said:

    I’m not changing any time soon. Wife wanted no part or replacing her car and that was more of. Space thing. I’ll reorganize the garage this weekend and see if I can fit both.

    My car only if I traded out for a hybrid and that depends on whether I can trade the old one in for top dollar.

    If it’s any consolation, salt covered cars rust slower if kept outside in cold weather.
    Going to be harder up here, but my method is never take the car out in salt. Avoids the problem. And usually I have the winter car if it has to go. Not sure which that is now! Also debating getting snow tires for the RDX.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236


    The Audi made it slightly over three weeks in my care before having an electrical gremlin. The MMI is stuck on this screen and I have no backup cam or infotainment. I’m going to restart it in a bit and check for codes with the BlueDriver.

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    corvette said:



    The Audi made it slightly over three weeks in my care before having an electrical gremlin. The MMI is stuck on this screen and I have no backup cam or infotainment. I’m going to restart it in a bit and check for codes with the BlueDriver.

    If the restart doesn’t work. is there a fuse you can pull? Disconnecting the battery is probably a PITA.

    2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236



    It lives! For now…

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    My mav did that once, but it’s because I was uploading a software update and it had not finished when I shifted into reverse. Once I shut down and restarted the update finished and all was fine b

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,686
    I've had MMI moments in my A7, too. Rebooting, including shutting down and literally getting out of the car and closing the door usually resolves. Once I had to do a factory reset as the aforementioned highly technical attempt didn't work.
    Happened the other day, but rebooted itself as I was driving away, perhaps it was getting an OTA update when I started the car.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    au1994 said:

    corvette said:



    The Audi made it slightly over three weeks in my care before having an electrical gremlin. The MMI is stuck on this screen and I have no backup cam or infotainment. I’m going to restart it in a bit and check for codes with the BlueDriver.

    If the restart doesn’t work. is there a fuse you can pull? Disconnecting the battery is probably a PITA.
    The early model Ford Sync systems would often go nuts requiring a hard reset. A "hard reset" meant either disconnecting the battery cable or pulling the fuse. I got so fed up with it that I was going to install a switch under the dash to do the job, but instead I just traded off the truck.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    edited September 2022
    I was about to leave a shopping center when it happened (and wanted the backup camera to work, darn it!) and tried turning it off once, locking the car, and then getting in again, but that didn't cure it. Second time's a charm?

    My reading of the Audi boards was that, other than the five regional nav maps, there are no OTA updates on that model, but I may have misunderstood or gotten incorrect info. I think people said that the dealers could update firmware under warranty but only if it was to fix a specific issue which had been diagnosed and documented--it wasn't something that happened automatically when the car goes to the dealer, nor if the customer generically requested that they update the firmware.
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