Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

qbrozen · September 2022

nyccarguy said:

Something I consider as my ride on the leasing merry go round might eventually come to an end. As much as I romanticize about a Civic Si, Elantra N, WRX, or an Integra with a 6-Speed as my daily driver, my wife does need to drive my car occasionally. I can't justify having 2 cars in a fleet of 3 that have 3 pedals.

I used to worry about that, but I'm kind of over it. If she can't be bothered to learn, that's her problem.

roadburner · September 2022

@qbrozen said:
That is very important. When one is in the shop, you don't want to have to pay for a rental, right? Wife's Volvo just went in for bodywork today. She can't drive the WRX, and she is scared to drive the Charger, so she still has the Fiat to tool around in, unless she needs to get groceries or carry more than 1 passenger, in which case she has the Sprinter. Bullet dodged! ;b

Four cars is as low as I’m prepared to go. The plan is to swap both the X1 and Clubman for a CPO Cooper S Clubman All4 in a couple of years.

tifighter · September 2022

nyccarguy said:
Having an extra car does come in handy.

It's a slippery slope.

Michaell · September 2022

Three years now with only the Outback shared between the wife and I. She's driven it probably less than a dozen times; either I drive her or she rides with the daughter in the MINI.

I did test a 2021 V60 CC at the local CarMax last week. White over beige, Momentum trim, Polestar tune on it. 16,000 miles, but a $48K price tag. It's a nice car, but I don't think it had a whole lot of tech that isn't already on the Outback. I did determine that the dog kennel fits in the back, which was something I was concerned about.

28firefighter · September 2022

I will remind you, @nyccarguy, that the Elantra N has a very very good DCT. Better than the GTI, WRX, or Integra offerings.

stickguy · September 2022

I think since she doesn’t drive much I should decide what the 2nd car is. But still Not winning the battle about swapping out “her car”.

Michaell · September 2022

stickguy said:
I think since she doesn’t drive much I should decide what the 2nd car is. But still Not winning the battle about swapping out “her car”.

And I'm hoping that, whenever the time comes, I'll get to choose our next car.

Just haven't decided if that will be something fun for me, or a more upscale replacement for the Outback.

stickguy · September 2022

Get yourself something fun. Life’s short. Enjoy it.

And yes that is my elevator speech for when I bring home something ridiculous.

My wife actually does not care what I get but reserves the right to not ride in it. As long as she has her nice car to use. I would just have to take that when we were together if she hated my car.

Good thing she seems to find the ford comfy. Just not happy with lack of XM

sda · September 2022

I would have to pry the car away from my wife if I bought a stick. She loves them and had a Nissan 240 SX 5 sp when I met her. She's a keeper.

jmonroe1 · September 2022

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

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Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · September 2022

ab348 said:

Michaell said:
Awww, no pictures of the red interior?

That is a great looking car.
It really is handsome despite the oversized grille, but that works better here than on other models from Lexus. I love the Lexus Atomic Silver paint.

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I agree. That Atomic Silver sure beats the hell outta old mans gray.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · September 2022

tommister2 said:

@xwesx said:

That sig line is looking a bit like @qbrozen's! Tommister's Used Cars. " alt="" height="20" />

My “excuse” is that we have 5 drivers in the house right now, so we need two spare vehicles just to make sure there is always something for someone to use. Yeah, that makes sense…

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Plus, it never hurts to have a rolling spare.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · September 2022

28firefighter said:
I will remind you, @nyccarguy, that the Elantra N has a very very good DCT. Better than the GTI, WRX, or Integra offerings.

Also remind me that with a good set of winter tires, modern traction control, stability control, as well as ABS, would make the Elantra N an excellent winter car. Now the only question; doe the goalie equipment fit?

nyccarguy · September 2022

Speaking of hockey practice, check two very cool cars (SUVs) that I saw at practice. Yes the LR is a diesel and a stick.

pensfan83 · September 2022

@nyccarguy said:
Something I consider as my ride on the leasing merry go round might eventually come to an end. As much as I romanticize about a Civic Si, Elantra N, WRX, or an Integra with a 6-Speed as my daily driver, my wife does need to drive my car occasionally. I can't justify having 2 cars in a fleet of 3 that have 3 pedals.

Thought of you this weekend when I saw this sitting out on the lot. I'm amazed it's around long enough to warrant photographs, unless that "Call for Price" is code for here's a $5K ADM lolz.

https://www.deanhonda.com/auto/new-2022-honda-civic-si-pittsburgh-pa/69496913/

nyccarguy · September 2022

pensfan83 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Something I consider as my ride on the leasing merry go round might eventually come to an end. As much as I romanticize about a Civic Si, Elantra N, WRX, or an Integra with a 6-Speed as my daily driver, my wife does need to drive my car occasionally. I can't justify having 2 cars in a fleet of 3 that have 3 pedals.

Thought of you this weekend when I saw this sitting out on the lot. I'm amazed it's around long enough to warrant photographs, unless that "Call for Price" is code for here's a $5K ADM lolz.

https://www.deanhonda.com/auto/new-2022-honda-civic-si-pittsburgh-pa/69496913/

Love the Black, but it even looks dirty in the pictures. LOL @ Call for price is code for $5K ADM. Although I don't see an extra sticker next to the Moroney.

28firefighter · September 2022

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:
I will remind you, @nyccarguy, that the Elantra N has a very very good DCT. Better than the GTI, WRX, or Integra offerings.
Also remind me that with a good set of winter tires, modern traction control, stability control, as well as ABS, would make the Elantra N an excellent winter car. Now the only question; doe the goalie equipment fit?

It's got a decent sized trunk but I'm not a sportsball expert, so couldn't tell you for sure what it'll hold.

qbrozen · September 2022

@sda said:
I would have to pry the car away from my wife if I bought a stick. She loves them and had a Nissan 240 SX 5 sp when I met her. She's a keeper.

So you kept the 240? Did the wife stick around, too? ;b

nyccarguy · September 2022

28firefighter said:

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:
I will remind you, @nyccarguy, that the Elantra N has a very very good DCT. Better than the GTI, WRX, or Integra offerings.
Also remind me that with a good set of winter tires, modern traction control, stability control, as well as ABS, would make the Elantra N an excellent winter car. Now the only question; doe the goalie equipment fit?
It's got a decent sized trunk but I'm not a sportsball expert, so couldn't tell you for sure what it'll hold.

I'll have to find out for myself one of these days.

JustinS · September 2022

jmonroe1 said:

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

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Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe

No change in gas mileage

jmonroe1 · September 2022

JustinS said:

jmonroe1 said:

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

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Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe
No change in gas mileage

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Thanks for confirming what I thought I already knew. Should have know that was just sales talk.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · September 2022

pensfan83 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Something I consider as my ride on the leasing merry go round might eventually come to an end. As much as I romanticize about a Civic Si, Elantra N, WRX, or an Integra with a 6-Speed as my daily driver, my wife does need to drive my car occasionally. I can't justify having 2 cars in a fleet of 3 that have 3 pedals.

Thought of you this weekend when I saw this sitting out on the lot. I'm amazed it's around long enough to warrant photographs, unless that "Call for Price" is code for here's a $5K ADM lolz.

https://www.deanhonda.com/auto/new-2022-honda-civic-si-pittsburgh-pa/69496913/

“Call for price” on a new car? Shouldn’t the price be a readily available MSRP? I think you’re right about a $5k ADM. When I see that statement instead of a price I make sure to never call. That’s a store that doesn’t want my business.

sda · September 2022

So you kept the 240? Did the wife stick around, too? ;b

Of all things her house was struck by lightning and her car burned with it. She ended up with a 97 Altima GXE 5sp which she hated. After we married we traded the Altima for a new 99 Passat 1.8t 5sp which she loved. 24 years in Feb.

corvette · September 2022

I did a thing... I now have an order for a 2023 Maverick XLT FWD hybrid with CoPilot 360 in Hot Pepper Red Metallic. Looks like $26,759 out the door plus whatever price increases Ford decrees before the sticker gets printed.

sda · September 2022

corvette said:
I did a thing... I now have an order for a 2023 Maverick XLT FWD with CoPilot 360 in Hot Pepper Red Metallic.

Excellent! Hybrid or 2.0t? Love the color.

corvette · September 2022

Thanks! Hybrid. Edited my earlier post for clarity.

tommister2 · September 2022

I have officially ordered a 2023 Maverick too. XLT hybrid in Atlas Blue Metallic. Dealer had 36 orders. Most were Area 51 or cactus grey, although I could only see the first 20 on his screen.

They had percentages on constraint items. He would not let me take a picture but chances are someone has has posted it online somewhere. I know spray in bedliner was 34%.

And now, we wait (or some of you continue to wait).

nyccarguy · September 2022

@corvette said:
I did a thing... I now have an order for a 2023 Maverick XLT FWD hybrid with CoPilot 360 in Hot Pepper Red Metallic. Looks like $26,759 out the door plus whatever price increases Ford decrees before the sticker gets printed.

So now you have 2 Mavericks on order?

stickguy · September 2022

I will have been waiting for 11 months next week. You get used to it.

andres3 · September 2022

stickguy said:
I will have been waiting for 11 months next week. You get used to it.

I'd rather just get a used car than wait 11 months. Unless I knew it was the perfect and greatest thing.

Michaell · September 2022

stickguy said:
I will have been waiting for 11 months next week. You get used to it.

Coming up on 5 months on the ID.4, for us. What's odd is that folks who submitted a reservation after we did are moving forward in the production queue faster than we are. I don't get it.

kyfdx · September 2022

I like the idea of ordering a car that I'll never get. Cheaper. Maybe a nice Cayman S.

stickguy · September 2022

well, it sounds worse than it really is, since I have had a "practice" one for the last 9 months. Even better than a filler used car!

ronsteve · September 2022

@stickguy said:
I think since she doesn’t drive much I should decide what the 2nd car is. But still Not winning the battle about swapping out “her car”.

That’s the problem here too. I haven’t pushed the business case yet, but I put more miles on the Jetta than she does.

She has made a couple of comments about wanting to upgrade but I think she might still be too attached to the Jetta. And right now a 19 TLX is coming in at a similar price point to a new Jetta.

stickguy · September 2022

Though maybe it is better if this one never shows up. By next summer I can start shopping for something fancier!

stickguy · September 2022

I have had both (including my daughters 2019 Jetta that I drove fairly often), The Acura is definitely nicer! though the Jetta was quite roomy and got great MPG too.

corvette · September 2022

tommister2 said:
They had percentages on constraint items. He would not let me take a picture but chances are someone has has posted it online somewhere. I know spray in bedliner was 34%.

Congrats! Alto Blue was my second choice after red, but Atlas Blue was a strong contender. Easier to avoid ordering factory options which may be constraints (like the bedliner, mats, tonneau, etc.) and just add them aftermarket, IMO. You're correct about the chart being posted. I think they are planning on 65% EcoBoost and 35% hybrid for 2023 and 40% with CoPilot360, and 20% with the CoPilot360 Assist Plus, which is only available on Lariat trims.

@nyccarguy - yes, I have a 2022 XL EcoBoost AWD on order with an October build date and a 2023 XLT Hybrid FWD on order.

I also have a tentative prediction, in the event I receive both of them: I will decide I prefer the powertrain of the XL EcoBoost but the interior and features of the XLT Hybrid, and go on to order a 2024 XLT EcoBoost.

xwesx · September 2022

nyccarguy said:
Having an extra car does come in handy. Especially since loaners are scarce. Very easy to have my wife meet me somewhere in the evening and do a night drop. My wife can always drive the other car and I could theoretically spend some time with my beloved Prelude. Alas the Prelude is not currently road worthy. So I'll either make and appointment and wait or rent.

I missed that invite for some wrenching time.

xwesx · September 2022

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

Something I consider as my ride on the leasing merry go round might eventually come to an end. As much as I romanticize about a Civic Si, Elantra N, WRX, or an Integra with a 6-Speed as my daily driver, my wife does need to drive my car occasionally. I can't justify having 2 cars in a fleet of 3 that have 3 pedals.
I used to worry about that, but I'm kind of over it. If she can't be bothered to learn, that's her problem.

AMEN, BROTHER!

jmonroe1 · September 2022

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:
Having an extra car does come in handy. Especially since loaners are scarce. Very easy to have my wife meet me somewhere in the evening and do a night drop. My wife can always drive the other car and I could theoretically spend some time with my beloved Prelude. Alas the Prelude is not currently road worthy. So I'll either make and appointment and wait or rent.
I missed that invite for some wrenching time.

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I’m sure if you talk nice he’ll gladly find time for a traveling wrench poster buddy to show up in his driveway.

jmonroe

stickguy · September 2022

I miss having car dealers having actual cars to look at and try to deal on.

cdnpinhead · September 2022

stickguy said:
I will have been waiting for 11 months next week. You get used to it.

Future perfect -- gotta love it.

qbrozen · September 2022

@andres3 said:
I'd rather just get a used car than wait 11 months. Unless I knew it was the perfect and greatest thing.

Of course, you can get a used car WHILE waiting for the new order

nyccarguy · September 2022

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:
Having an extra car does come in handy. Especially since loaners are scarce. Very easy to have my wife meet me somewhere in the evening and do a night drop. My wife can always drive the other car and I could theoretically spend some time with my beloved Prelude. Alas the Prelude is not currently road worthy. So I'll either make and appointment and wait or rent.
I missed that invite for some wrenching time.

I've got the majority of the parts sitting in my garage on a shelf. You are more than welcome. I don't want anything for free and I am more than willing to pay.

nyccarguy · September 2022

28firefighter said:

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:
I will remind you, @nyccarguy, that the Elantra N has a very very good DCT. Better than the GTI, WRX, or Integra offerings.
Also remind me that with a good set of winter tires, modern traction control, stability control, as well as ABS, would make the Elantra N an excellent winter car. Now the only question; doe the goalie equipment fit?
It's got a decent sized trunk but I'm not a sportsball expert, so couldn't tell you for sure what it'll hold.

I really like the Black with the Red Trim on the bottom

graphicguy · September 2022

JustinS said:

jmonroe1 said:

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

VERYH NICE! Congrats. Count me as someone who would LOVE to see pics on that red interior, too!
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Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe
No change in gas mileage

graphicguy · September 2022

graphicguy said:

JustinS said:

jmonroe1 said:

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

————————————————
Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe
No change in gas mileage

VERY NICE. Big Congrats! Count me as another who would LOVE to see pics of that RED interior!

xwesx · September 2022

nyccarguy said:

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:
Having an extra car does come in handy. Especially since loaners are scarce. Very easy to have my wife meet me somewhere in the evening and do a night drop. My wife can always drive the other car and I could theoretically spend some time with my beloved Prelude. Alas the Prelude is not currently road worthy. So I'll either make and appointment and wait or rent.
I missed that invite for some wrenching time.
I've got the majority of the parts sitting in my garage on a shelf. You are more than welcome. I don't want anything for free and I am more than willing to pay.

Ah, man. I'm seriously bummed. We should have discussed it a few weeks ago, and I surely could have fit in the time. At this point, I won't be able to make it because we're leaving in a week, and we have my MIL's celebration of life on Sunday (so my wife has me fully booked from now until then).

However... if you still have those parts stacked up in 11 months.... we're on!

JustinS · September 2022

graphicguy said:

graphicguy said:

JustinS said:

jmonroe1 said:

JustinS said:

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:
@sda @JustinS just bought an LC 500. Traded his Santa Cruz for it.
Wow; that's not a big change or anything!
I loved the Santa Cruz (had it just shy of a year and put 12,500 miles on it). But I found this 2019 LC 500 with only 1,100 miles on it in the exact color combination I've dreamed of owning, so I wanted to take advantage of the higher-than-normal trade value of the Hyundai to get into this.

It's been a blast to own so far. I had it ceramic coated a week after getting it.

————————————————
Wow, that’s a nice looking car alright. I have question for you…I’ve heard that those ceramic coatings are so slick that they can even increase your gas mileage. Have you noticed a bump, or is that just snake oil talk?

In any case enjoy it and give us a couple progress updates.

jmonroe
No change in gas mileage

VERY NICE. Big Congrats! Count me as another who would LOVE to see pics of that RED interior!

Thanks! Here are some interior shots...

corvette · September 2022

Mass email from Chapman Ford of Horsham just went out stating they have earned a grand total of 11 Maverick allocations for MY 2023 (despite selling/ordering approximately 300 in MY 2022). The spreadsheet they attached isn't clear, and I'm hoping that's for dealer stock and that customer orders don't count against that.

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