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Ford Focus Hatchback - ZX3 - Part V
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Comments
Likes:
1)the fun handling and percise sterring
2)shift knob and sterring wheel - my fingers fit exactly in the grooves
3)the wheel arch flairs
4)the overall exterior design
5)THE HUGE storage area in the trunk (it has more usable space than my flareside Ranger did)
6)the huge access area to the trunk
7)the position of the antenna
8)the stereo (it rocks)
9)the attention it gets
10)I could afford it
DISLIKES
1)the horror stories with customer service from this message board
2)the plasticky feel of some of the interior parts
3)the cheap feel of the overhead visor
4)the engine needs more power
5)the rear end looks a little jacked up
6)the turning radius could be shorter
7)four doors would be nice
8)there are no pockets behind the front seats or in the trunk area
9)the door handles should be color coordinated with the color of the car
10)it takes too many cranks to unroll the window
Just hope I never run into one of those monstrosities in my little hatchback.
With regard to my own previous "Top 10" posting, I would add another contender for the number one spot: the ZX3 makes driving fun again for me! I love the way my hatchling feels and looks, and I gotta admit, now when I tool down the highway, all the other cars (especially SUVs) all just seem so, well ... BORING!!! Is it just me, or can any of you other Foci owners relate?
My BMW dealer didn't have the chrome tailpipe accessory. I'll try somewhere else. Is it true that the Ford tailpipe accessory is a royal pain to install? I'd rather avoid that, if possible. Any other ideas, friends?
Now, about the comparison to the Protege and Echo: I briefly sold Mazdas and Porsches during my student days (way back when!), and while I was not totally unimpressed with the Protege, it never had the good, solid feel that I have in my ZX3. Safety data notwithstanding, I feel like I am in a solid, safe automobile in my Focus. This is not a feeling I have ever had in a Toyota or Mazda of any model or vintage (with the exception of the dear, departed RX7 -- another hatchback classic!) As for the Porsche....another story entirely, but I'd rather be able to buy a car AND a boat for the same money (or a house, for that matter)!
Happy driving, comrades. See you on the road -- I'll be the one with the Malibu Blue hatchling and the excellent moonroof (and if I pass you, don't take it personally--it's just that it is once again so much fun to drive!)
Calico1
instead i saw E004. the same as somebody else got.
anybody else with this outcome?
MP10 - LOL, you are bidding on the very same parking sign i'm bidding on! I'm jedimaster6 on Ebay. That's ok, there are several of them.
Hugoz - thanks for explaining the rear seats!
Anyone - I have a single CD in my ZX3, but I want to get a CD changer. What kind do you recommend and where should I put it, in the dash or in the trunk? I also work for Panasonic, I might try to see if I can get one from them at a discount (I get 10% below dealer cost)
And my top likes and dislikes:
Likes: I love the gas mileage! I get anywhere from 28 to 35 mpg.
Very smooth handling and a nice ride, very fun to drive.
A lot of room for me in the hatchling! (I'm 6"2).
Very affordable cost!
Dislikes: Lower torque and horsepower than I would have liked (although it does soar at the high speeds, I outran a Mustang GT the other day!)
The window crankshaft! I'm definitely getting power windows when they become available.
Terrible Ford representatives who know nothing about the car or anything I ask them!
I really really want that Ford watch, I wonder if I have to do anything...I have already registered at www.ownerconnection.com. Will I get mine in a month or so?
Clint
I am still waiting for parts for my Focus,,,,the dealership is waiting on rear bearing assemblies for the right rear wheel (result of an accident). Parts and the resulting repair delay time are definitely the BIGGEST issue for this car. Maybe that is why we get a G-Shock watches ... so we can accurately measure our waiting time for repair of our beloved Foci.
We can phone 'customer service' (I use that term loosely) and say I have waited 40 days, 6 hours, 32 minutes, and 11.11 seconds for the repair of my Focus. What the heck is Ford going to do about it? The predicted 'customer service' response....I am sorry....we cannot help you! (at least they say sorry...but I just want MY car fixed!!)
So when you need a new part for your Focus...just start the timer on your G-shock. You will be shocked how long you'll have to wait.
Sorry....but I am very critical of FORD! All is great about the car, but there is a 'shocking' flaw.
Ladies and Gentlemen...start your G-Shocks!!!!
NorwayDoug
Slightly damaged Sangria Red ZX-3
I'm glad I finally got my watch though. Bought the car Jan 7th , got the yellow box March 16th. It's a little too big for comfort so I'm just going to keep it in the car. The frame is crap, they could have at least made it plastic. I had been bugging my dealer about the watch and they had no idea about it even after they said they called around. So when I did get mine, I went in and showed it off to my dealer. They were surprised. Which goes to show the lack of communication within the Ford Corporation.
Anyway, I have to go, have to catch my bus.
I wonder what some of that other stuff in that gauge is? (seems to be about 25-30 different things) I did see one that displays the current battery voltage though.
later,
Gabe
You are forgetting Newtons laws about power. The more power you get, the worse your gas mileage. I can go up long steep grades without a problem and I don't need to hit my brakes going down them either. If you want real power in a Ford, get a Mustang Cobra or a F-150 Lightning. I'd rather take the gas mileage.
Ford Parts is getting bad. A host of parts are on backorder. This includes older vehicles too. Sheet metal is really bad. Ford has switched prediction systems (they order the parts a few times a year rather than on the fly) and are working out the bugs.
One of the reasons why our dealership (I work at one)is lacking in certain knowledge is that our Focuses are on deep backorder (as in wait four months). The dealership has maybe seen 4 ZX3s since they came out and maybe 20 sedans (the lower models mostly) and 5 wagons.
Hold tripmeter reset button while starting car and release it when the word "TEST" appears.
1. TEST GAGE - Tests the analog gauges.
2. 888.8 - Unknown function.
3. bULb - Tests the indicator lamps.
4. r 20 - Unknown function.
5. E005 - Unknown function.
6. d?c NONE - Unknown function. (? = incomplete "E" w/o top horizontal bar.)
7. 000.0 - Digital speedometer (MPH).
8. 000.0 - Digital tachometer (RPM).
9. F163 - Unknown function.
10. 073C - Unknown function.
11. 6182 - Unknown function. (Measurement)
12. Ab-L - Unknown function.
13. Eb-L - Unknown function.
14. 1L-L - Unknown function.
15. Cr-H - Unknown function.
16. A-6C - Unknown function. (Measurement)
17. b-08 - Unknown function.
18. C-C1 - Unknown function.
19. d-3F - Unknown function.
20. 0182 - Unknown function. (Measurement)
21. 1255 - Unknown function.
22. 2016 - Unknown function. (Measurement)
23. 3255 - Unknown function.
24. 4164 - Unknown function. (Measurement)
25. 5000 - Unknown function.
26. 6000 - Unknown function.
27. 7000 - Unknown function.
28. P117 - Unknown function.
29. P200 - Unknown function.
30. P300 - Unknown function.
31. P400 - Unknown function.
"Measurement" indicates that the number in the display varies (like it is measuring something). Can anyone help me interpret all of the "unknown functions"? I would also be interested in seeing what values others may see, if different from these.
MP10: I called the toll-free Owner Connection number about the recall and they referred me to a dealer who didn't know anything about it. I too have not received anything in the mail from Ford.
JEDIMASTER1: I purchased a modular interface from Soundgate which connects my CD changer (mounted under the passenger seat) to the CD changer jack on the back of the factory stereo. It was a very easy installation and it works and sounds great. The only special tool you will need is a radio removal tool which I purchased from Crutchfield for about $3.
I wonder, just wonder, if the magic word could be "Attorney General - Consumer Affairs Division"? Could that get some of these dealers off their posteriors? Especially if some of you guys could get together. There is power in numbers.
Pat
Your right when I stop and think about it. Maybe that's why the dealers are not pushing the Focus like we all think they ought to be. They already know the problem and are in a self-imposed holding pattern, rather than getting a lot of vehicles out there and not being able to service them. Would be good for their customer relations. The dealers apparently know more about this problem than we give them credit for.
Pat
Also, how much did this device run you, and were you able to pick out any changer you wanted...?
reason some of us do like to live in a faithful
paranoia with some car manufacturers(say only ford
,or only dodge,or only vw).
What for? Car manufacturers are not so faithful
with us and we all now it.
If you'll decide to buy cars from one manufacturer
only ,you should be rewarded for your loyalty with
discount,every next car you'll buy should be 10%
off from it's market price.
Example:
1-st car =regular market price
2-nd car =10% off reg. market price
3-rd car =20% off reg. market price
4-th car =25% off reg. market price
5 and every next car =30% off reg. market price.
That would be a pay-off for loyalty!!!
Mean time you can say ,only ford or only vw and
you can buy 5 cars in-a-row from them,and they will
treat you like... anyone else.
Just a thought.
I leased for three years, not knowing what state the Focus will be in by that time. If things are going good, i might buy another, if not going good, I can get out with minimal loss.
Sure hope all goes better soon.
My only slight dissapointments are sure to be solved soon by after market companies. One is the power situation. The car could really use about 20 more horsepower to impress me. That would match the Dodge Neon ACR (now discontinued) and the Saab 900s.
A turbo Focus pushing 180 horsepower, with rear disk brakes and leather seats would be hot hot hot. (any body at Ford listening?). Perhaps it is my experience with Saab, but I know that turbo hatchbacks can be good cars. A Turbo Focus could easily be done under $18,000 and blow the doors off a lot of BMWs and VW Golf GTi's.
If anybody here can point me in the direction of custom performance parts for the Focus, post it here.
My biggest disappointment is in the gas mileage. I have yet to get my 30 MPG with mostly highway driving. Maybe I should attribute this to the break-in period, but I was spoiled by my Dodge Colt getting 35Mpg.
Something I learned recently at the Ford dealership is that Ford is actually raising the prices on the sedans in a sneaky sort of way. What they are doing is loading them up with options and shipping them to the dealerships with price tags reaching $17,000+. The big pull is the Sony Edition that has a pumped up sound system and a few other things that comprise a $1500 option package. The end result is that the Focus line is going to be a more costly line than the Escort was.
It also looks like they are dropping the coupe (2 door non hatchback model). That's the $11,200 car you see around once in a while. Toyota is getting killed on the Echo 2 door and Ford is going to bail out of the idea early.
On the 00E09 recall, my car was built in December '99 (look on your window sticker or VIN sticker) & sold to me on Feb. 3. It was part of the recall. I found out about the recall on the Ford website, and had it done at the dealer about a week ago. Never have received a mailing telling me about it...
Escort ZX2 and the Focus ZX3 are completely different cars. They do share the same engine.
I just washed the car by hand yesterday.. found it is hard to get the dirt out of the grooves around the wheels and the hood. Also found chipped paint at the leading edge of the hood
My mileage has now improved to almost 30mpg, mostly highway.. I used to get 26-27 earlier fr the same kind of driving. I now have 8900 miles on the car.
So far no problems. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, after hearing drebe, projectzx3 and norway doug's horror stories.
I also drove a ZTS last week - it rode smoother and was steadier than our zx3's.
Dealers did not understand why I wanted a manual trans on a "sporty" car. Could it be because i'm 51 and don't fit Ford's profile?
My son and I sat in most standard small cars in Houston auto show and Focus is only one he would not feel like a sardine in the back seat. Liked the VW Jetta and Golf but 1.8T engine equiped would be 4 to 5 grand more than ZX3 and not look nearly as good.
For you "older" guys, sell your wife on the features and don't show her Ford's literature which only show 18 year olds. (Nothing against younger people but some of us older types like good looking economical cars also.)
As far as the ZX3 goes, what a great little car. I have always been a fan of small zippy hatchbacks. The first one I liked was the 88-91 Civic Si. It's about time an American car manufacturer got serious about building a decent small car. The Cavalier is a joke, so is the Neon.
I'm not ready to trade in my Galant, but I'll drive the ZX3 anyway just to see if there is merit to all the raves.
Pretty cheap for a nice looking chrome addition to my soon to be ZX3!
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/fordfocusplace
Is this unreasonable?
Cruise control option - 700
-steering wheel - 900
-labor - 200
Total: $1800
I wish now I had negotiated that a little better, at least to get the invoice price for the option and the wheel. I am glad that I got it, though, no question about that.
Sony Interface
SFBD2V3 - 10-disc Uni-Link (606 or 727)
Alpine Interface
ALFD1V3 - 6-disc M-Bus (CHM-S620 or 611)
Kenwood Interface
KNFD1V3 - 6 or 10-disc
I paid about $125 for the interface which works well with the Sony CDX-727 changer. You may want to e-mail them for an answer to your first question. Good luck!
1. The Razzi groung effects kit has been installed for some time now. Automotive Accents of Linthicum, MD. did the work. Great bunch over there. I highly recommend them if you live in the MD.,D.C. or Virginia area.
2. We have ordered the Borla Exhaust cat back system from Ford Performance Specialists... based in Atlanta. Best price going and a great reputation. Borla referred me to them specifically. Due date 1st or 2nd week of April.
3. We ordered TSW SGV'S 17X7 from Focus Sport. They are an outstanding firm dedicated to we Foci enthusiasts! Call them if you need anything. We're also getting the spark plug wires and a FocusSport license plate frame... they're cool!
4. 215/45/17 Pirelli P7000 Super Sports getting ordered tomorrow!
5. Out of cash!!! For now!!!
6. Will be getting graphics done by Automotive Accents.
Note: everything should be on by the end of April. By then we plan to get a cheap scanner so we can send pics to those of you that want to see our project.
It's good to know that I did not get a bad deal on my cruise control. My dealer only charged me for the $900 steering wheel and $300 labor for a total of $1200 -- a big difference from the $1800 jedimaster paid!
I still can't find any dealer with the chrome exhaust tip, so I think I will order it from BMW as well.
I, too, bought my hatchling post-recall (but, remember, my dealer knows nothing of the recall), and my VIN number does appear on the recall on Ford Connection. Yes, you would think they would have fixed it before delivering the car, but NO! I'm going to have Ford Motor Company call the dealership and inform them of the recall directly. Thanks for the information.
Calico1
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Drebe73, all I (we) can say is sorry and we feel for you. Ok, no stop your b****hing and whining. hehe..j/k.