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From day one I have had the worst service. First in FT. Lauderdale and now in Gainesville Fl.
I do not trust any of the saab dealerships.
After 40,000 miles things start happening with the car.
Going back to Volvo.
I've got a 2004 Aero 9-5 Wagon that has about 18 months to go on a 4 year lease. So far, unlike my prior Saabs, this car has been flawless. My question is, what should I do as far as the lease goes. If I keep driving at the present rate, I'll be at 62000 miles on a 48,000 lease. Also, my warranty is up at 50k too if I'm not mistaken.
Should I try to get out now? Consider an extended warranty and try keeping it next year? Its about $10k upside down at this point. Thanks.
I have a question for everyone. Right now I'm looking at two nearly identical 9-5 wagons. They're both two owner cars and both black with tan leather interiors. One is a 1999 with the 2.3 liter four and 70,830 miles, and the other is a 2000 SE with the 3.0 liter six and 69,550 miles. They're even both at the same dealership. The '99 2.3t is $7200, and the '00 SE-V6 is $7600. Should I spend the extra $400 and get the extra power of the V6, or save it and go with the more economical yet still powerful 2.3t?
I have a 50 mile commute every day which is 85% highway and 15% city, so gas mileage is important to me. I'd like the extra power of the V6 but I'm worried about reliability issues (I'm a college student and can't afford an unreliable vehicle) and one of my friend's parents have two 9-5's with the 2.3t (an '02 Arc sedan and an '04 Arc wagon) and they love them. I'm kinda leaning toward the 2.3t, but which one do you think should I go for?
Seems the ABS goes awry at around 75,000 miles.
This car will nickel and dime you.
Several of my friends have owned 2.3t's and have literally run the wheels off them with little more than routine maintenance.
And for the record, masaab, I hate Camry's and Toyota's in general, their styling leaves me yawning. And besides they last manufactured Camry wagons 11 years ago, so they're getting very hard to find, and usually they have about 170k to 200k when you do see one on a rare occasion. I don't want a car with THAT many miles.
I'm one of those people who believes the car you drive says everything about your personality, and the 9-5 pretty much embodies me: subtle yet stylish, a little offbeat and thouroughly quirky, both practical and fun at the same time.
I've contacted the dealer and hope to take a test drive next week.
My SAAB 2005 9-5 Sport wagon has a SID unit that has failed a total of six times. The car has spent more time at the dealer than at my garage. It had to have a new engine after only six weeks of ownership as the freeze plug blew and the engine was starved of oil.
The engine seems fine now, but the SID unit failure is a pain in the butt. Any suggestions? :lemon:
Mark Merchant
Thanks,
Mark
On my 1999, I was told that the 'brain' of the alarm, like a home fire alarm, has it's own battery - which eventually gets low & requires a pricey replacement (labor, not part!) Anyway, my vehicle skipped a step, and went straight to screech mode in order to let me know. Initially, was told by nearby gas station that was a 'fluke.' But, when happened few weeks later and my landlord invited me to get a new car or a new residence - it needed to be fixed.
Hope your issue resolved. If not, fun ahead...
Happy so far. 3rd Saab. (99 9-3 100k then trade for this one, 04 linear 30k.
Anthony
Happy so far. 3rd Saab. (99 9-3 100k then trade for this one, 04 linear 30k
Jim
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Jim
The good: still love the styling, the power, the brakes and the room. Very comfortable highway car if the pavement is smooth and the seats are comfortable for the long haul. Clean and clear stereo. It's no sports car, but plenty of fun on back roads with no traffic. Far less turbo lag and far more torque than in my 9-3.
The bad: Too much road noise on the interstate, can feel a bit ponderous at low speeds (very heavy feeling nose compared to my previous '04 9-3 2.0T), ride suffers more than it should on poor pavement, transmission can be confused when lifting off heavy throttle, cheap feeling shifter and a few other miscellaneous interior bits, occasional torque steer. Poor remote key range. Don't care for the paddle shifters compared to the 9-3's floor shifter for the automatic transmission. Stereo sounds good but isn't all that loud.
The ugly: delivered with defective turbo valve and remote key, remote sensor needed replacing at 1 month and driver's door once somehow became locked and would not come unlocked while the door was open so that the door could not close. Had to pry it open or would have been stranded.
In summary, I still like the car a lot and I still feel it's a decent value compared to the competition but the level of refinement and reliability for a car at this price point and where it is in its life cycle (they should have more of the bugs worked out by now!) is a bit disappointing.
The only significant problem I have had was a bad sending unit in the gas tank which caused me to run dry when the guage was just barely touching the red; lots of annoying little things though, like lost fasteners around the rear hatch lining, screw covers falling off the door handle and the passenger side front speaker grill popping up. It took four trips to two different dealers to fix that last one.
At 31K the P-6s were worn and extremely noisy. I replaced them with ContiExtremeContacts and am very pleased. They needed a few hundred miles to "break in", but are far quieter and smoother than the Pirellis, handle at least as well and were less than half the price of Michelins. Good in snow, too.
All-in-all I am pleased with the 9-5 wagon, which I bought because I did not like the new Passat or the V70, and did not want to spend $20K more for a 5 Series or E Class. Were I in the market for a sedan I would not have bought the SAAB. There are other cars in the mid-$30s from Acura, Infinity and Honda that I think are better.
To make this short, I went to another Saab dealer with whom I have good relations and they lubricated the heck out of the column and for 60,000 miles I was happy. Then it came back. This time, my independent mechanic diagnosed the steering column and that this was a known problem. That annoyed me even more. I have owned Saabs exclusively since 1993. At this point I will have to consider another brand when it comes time to replace one of my 4 Saabs. I'm sure part of the problem is GM ownership of Saab.
I would love to know which model years are affected. If I do consider another Saab, it will likely be a Saab certified used car to avoid this type of issue again. This would be painful as I avoid Saab dearler in general. After discounting GM, Ford and Chrysler there isn't much left except expensive European sedans and Japanese (which I do like). I am heavily invested in Saab in terms of time and experience in maintaining them, but as an engineer I will need to be objective. Wish me luck!
Chuck
But - having owned a 2001 Saab 9.5 sedan, and the heavy depreciation, it is unlikely I will pay MSRP. What should I expect these days for price off MSRP on a 2008 or 2007 Sportcombi purchased in the US? I would expect an Aero for between $35k and $40k but closer to $35k. Is this a reasonable expectation?
i am looking for a good mechanic in the princeton nj area to service my 2001 9-5 wagon...this car has been plauged with problems..if anyone can help me please do!!!
mark
I give ultimate credit to the dealer in Atlanta as the service department at Jim Ellis has been superb in trying to make this work. I did not even buy it from them.
The electrical problem seems something with which I have to live. If the Lemon Law could have been invoked, I would have done it. I concur, since GM took over, the SAAB legend has not thrived. Still love the car, but which I did not have a carry spare fuses!
Do I have to take off the lights them selves or is there a panel on th einside that comes away.. doesn't seem very obvious.
Help ?? r
Do I have to take off the lights them selves or is there a panel on the inside that comes away.. doesn't seem very obvious.
Help ?? r
1) Is it normal to have some acceleration hesitation when driving at low speeds - or should I take it to a dealer for checkup?
2) Can someone explain how the use of the 3 headlamp settings - it appears the headlamps come on automatically in the first setting, but the hi-beams won't stay on when in this setting. When I use the third setting, I can turn on the hi-beams, but it looks as if the headlamps are always on. Read the manual, but still confused.
3) Can the radio equalizer settings (custom or auto) be saved station specific? I.E. - when I change the setting to "talk" for a news radio station, the "talk" setting also becomes the default for all my other saved favorite stations. In my other GM family vehicles I am able to saved equalizer settings for each station, and don't know if I'm just doing something wrong.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
1. I have an 07, not an 06, but definitely not. Especially in sport mode it's quick off the line with minimal turbo lag.
2. I never figured this out, it's stupid.
3. I don't think it's that smart, but I never really tried.
Sorry I can't be of much help.
Sad to see Saab in such a condition as it is now, getting an all new 9-5 by now should be an option but unfortunately is not. I hope the new model sees the light of day.
Saw pics of the 2010 9-5 today on www.globalmotors.com It's awesome!
Dennis Slapo
Any advise will help! :confuse:
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