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Do you have an Aero version? If so, it's your tires. The performance tires are not to be used for driving in the snow. You WILL need to get snow tires if you intend to drive in snow. If you have a Non Aero .. I'd still guess it's a tire issue. Have them checked. Our 9-5 did great in the 6-7 inch snow we got yesterday.
Good Luck
Drew
That included the GMS price, along with the full 4,000 dealer cash that they must give along with it.
I didn't get a price on an Aero, but it does drive nice! A bit of torque/steer at take off but it's to be expected. The interior is well laid out and I think it's as sharp as a BMW, if a bit understated. I know the dealer has some cash on the Aero, but I don't think it's as much as the 4K on the Linear.
Also drove, and just purchased, a Volvo XC70. The 2003 model has mildly increased HP, but loads more torque. Also the addition of the Haldex AWD is an improvement on an already good system. I purchased this through the Volvo overseas program. Sticker: about 38,500 My Price 31,945
This included AWD, Premium and Touring Pkgs, and I 'm not even going to Sweden to get it! I thought this was the best value with the AWD, although it's not quite the sporty wagon when compared to the Aero or BMW.
Drew
As owner of an older Saab 900S and a later Subaru Legacy wagon, it has long occurred to me that an AWD is way overdue for Saab. In my opinion, Saab lost market share to Subaru years ago when Subaru seemingly became the vehicle of choice for many outdoors enthusiasts.
Having owned two, I'm still a big fan of Saab, although it seems to me that they are slipping somewhat behind the competition. By the way, Warren Brown said that, in normal driving conditions, 95 percent of the drive power on the Volvo XC90 goes to the front wheels, thereby saving fuel. He says "65 percent of the drive power is shifted to the rear wheels during slippery conditions." A unique roll over protection system was developed for the Volvo XC90, which gives it great stability.
This is not intended to knock Saab, as I would choose Saab over Volvo any day, especially since it is now a subsidiary of Ford. However, it would be reassuring to see Saab reaffirm its status as a serious contender in the market.
Jon,'87 Saab 185K trouble-free miles
I've seen the new 9-3. It looks great.
There are also plans to have a new Cross Over type vehicle on this platform. Prototypes have already been built and shown at Auto shows in the past year.
Drew
Thanks for your response. It's encouraging to know that Saab has an AWD 9-3 coming out soon. I hope Saab will offer an AWD in the 9-5 as well. Our Legacy wagon has been an outstanding performer, but I'm thinking that a Saab 9-5 wagon would provide more in comfort and safety.
Regards,
Jon
I don't believe the current 9-5 has the room in it's archecture for an AWD system. My understanding is that AWD will have to wait for the next generation 9-5.
Drew
Also, please note: Edmunds' new vehicle TMV prices do not take into account current Manufacturer-to-consumer incentives or rebates. If there are any customer cash incentives in your area, you'll want to make the necessary adjustments.
Good luck, and please keep us posted on your purchase.
Revka
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Revka
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I figure 34K - 35K may be a good price.
BTW, 1 year ago I bough an '01 9-5 SE Wgn for
30,500.
my next comment is one commented earlier that its better to lease with an option to buy .... better than buying used any more comments..
thank you..
The V6 produces 200HP and 227 ft-lbs.
The reason is that the 2.3T engine's turbo produces a lot more boost than the 3.0 V6's turbo.
I have never driven the 2.3T, but owned a 3.0Lt.
My understanding is the V6 has better performance from a stop, but once the engine is running the 2.3T has much more kick.
The bottom line is SAAB knows turbos. They can make a small engine produce a lot of power.
I am still in the market for a buying a wagon... but now its getting kind of critical....Anyone regarding lease buy option vs buying a used 2001 or 2002
someone commented that its better to lease with a buy option since at the end of the lease term the car residual value is almost like $ 15000 to $18000 and you cannot buy a fairly used one ( 2001 or 2002 ) for that much.... any input... ty.
keep in mind that Saab does depreciate very quickly on the first year almost like $ 8000 based on edmunds )
Why buy used when you can get new at this price?
Good luck
To bewildered2- Congratulations on your new 02'9-5 Aero Sedan! Thanks for the information on the 02'wagons! See you around Town Hall. ;-)
Revka
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Revka
Of course, this assumes that you decide to pay cash and don't finance a used car at 7% or so. I recently went through the same thoughts when we bought our Montero last year. While we could have saved almost $8k by buying used, the 0% financing made it "cheaper" to buy new.
I realize that some cars lose value more quickly than others - I've owned several Nissan's (great cars though). However,I remain pleased with my new 9-5 that I will pass on to my daughter in four years when she graduates from HS - and I will have put all of the mileage on the vehicle at the time it's passed on.
We have had a few minor problems with this car. 1) On cold mornings it is sluggish when first starting up and sometimes even stalls. Is this normal? Is this a major concern? 2) Every now and then we get that sulfur smell that other people have mentioned . Is this a gasoline brand problem or could it be something bigger than that?
I haven't mentioned anything to Saab service about these problems yet but I will at the next scheduled service.
You may find it more prevelant during winter months if your in a colder climate due to the Formulations used in the winter. Keep a mental note of the Gas Stations your using before the smell presents itself. Switching Fuel Brands seems to help for some people I've read.
Good Luck
Drew
Is there really much difference in price between the '99 and '00? I'd tend to go with the newest and lowest mileage version I could find if I were buying used. It always good to try and get as much history on each as well. It could be that the older one turns out to be the least abused .. you just never know.
Good Luck
Drew
So far, I love it! Better handler than the Passat or Volvo and more features for the money. Slightly bigger inside than the Passat and slightly smaller than the Volvo. I'm 6'5" and can get comfortable. Haven't come up with any major dislikes that I didn't know about prior to purchasing.
Very smooth around town once you learn how to drive the turbo 4 - V6 is perhaps easier to get smooth acceleration from stop, but neither I nor my picky passengers have any complaints about the 4. Getting 22MPH for in-town non-sport mode driving - fairly good for break-in period.
Really enjoying the Touring features (xenons, parking assist, rain sensitve wipers) more than I thought.
Price paid: 32.3k + TTL for Linear + Premium + Touring + Metallic Paint including March factory to dealer incentive ($4000) and $1000 GM Loyalty rebate (expired)
Hope that helps people looking at this great, value packed luxury wagon.
Hmmm...I'm not getting that warm fuzzy Saab feeling people are writing about. I want to feel good about this purchase,
but needing to replace a large ticket item has me rather unnerved.
It's under warranty, but I did not buy this car to become better acquainted with my dealer.
To kklv- Welcome to this discussion, and sorry to hear about your Se wagon problem. Hopefully things will go smoothly from here on out. Good luck, and please keep us posted on your ownership experience.
Revka
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The warm fuzzy should come to you knowing that your Dealer offered to replace without an arguement. I've dealt with lots of manufactures and Makes and many of them will argue that everything is just fine until you get very aggressive and argue and complain for a long time. It could be argued the Cataylytic converter when bad because of a bad fuel issue or sever driving etc. Applaud your dealer for NOT being contentious with you and taking care of it. Keep the faith. On our third Saab now because they take much better care of us than other dealers have.
Good Luck
Drew
Favorites: The leather is beautiful - I haven't let my dogs in the car yet. Automatic climate control is great. Heated seats are so necessary. The Sport mode and the Winter mode work great!
I am a Saab convert, after the following ownership history: Honda Civic, Toyota Camry wagon, and Passat wagon.
Drew
Does anyone know if the sport button affects mpg significantly? In other words, should I feel guilty about using it? I would like to do my part to reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
Also, any recommendations re. reducing brake dust?
Finally, my stereo supposedly will go up in volume as my speed increases, but I haven't noticed that working. Any thoughts? I went through the process to turn this function on, but no changes.
Thanks,
Susan
You mentioned that your driving conservatively.. so.. using the Sport Mode is of no use really. Yes, it will effect mileage. In sport mode your holding a gear longer for higher RPM's and down shifting sooner.. again.. higher RPM's. I'd say only use it when you want to drive more aggressively and aren't concerned with mileage as much.
The Automatic Volume is a feature you can turn on and off. I haven't looked at ours lately so I can't tell you without looking it up on how to turn it on or off. I will say this... even when it's in use.. you don't really notice the adjustments.. that's kinda the point. It's supposed to adjust higher so you can still hear the music. More of a seamless thing you don't notice.. you should just notice that you can still hear the sound without having to manually turn up the volume everytime you get on the freeway.
I'm not sure this feature is all that great or not. I don't notice it.. Probably because it's working just as it should... who knows?
One feature you do want turned on is the "Loud" setting. Sorry but you'll have to look in the book for this too. Again I don't have it committed to memory. This feature effects the Sub for a richer sound. In the off setting the system is not nearly as good.
The sound system is decent but I think Dissapointing in the way you have to open the book everytime you want to change settings like these. I'm not sure why they can't just put a simple on/off switch for this one... Ugh.
Hope your enjoying your Saab.
Drew
Congrats.
Drew
We have three kids with one in a booster and the other two in child seats. Thanx in advance.
I just purchased a Saab 9-5 linear wagon and only have 2 car seats in it, but see no reason you couldn't put a 3rd in. I've put 2 close to each other with an adult sitting on the outside without too much crowding. The only thing I've noticed is that for my tall 2 year old, there's less rear-seat room than in a Grand Cherokee and he ends up kicking the new leather seats
The downside is that it's difficult to get the middle child in, and I would strongly urge you to take all of your car seats and kids down to the Saab dealership to really decide whether this is the car you want to transport the whole family.
I'd be happy to answer any other questions - FWIW, except for loss of some interior room, I love the car in every other respect.
Two questions
1. Per your comment, is it difficult getting the middle child in due to the lower height vs. an SUV?
2. Can the adult in the back buckle their seat belt or do the seats take up too much room?
Thanx for all the help.