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Steve
-juice
Cheers Pat.
Bob
Then....the dreaded 84 Dodge Caravan. Yes, it was the worst. A couple more vans (needed for my business)
And now the LLBean - best of the lot, by far, and I hope to keep it longer than any before it. And I still like it better every day! Now if the gas mileage would just get up there a bit more....
Jillian
The H6 is a much more refined engine than the corvair six was, but I bet you couldn't change one in 6 hours by yourself.
Herb
01 VDC (also white)
My last Corvair post. Promise!
Bob
Ross
Cheers Pat.
Bob
Ross
Roger
OK, serious, I do like to know too.
Anyone knows?
-Dave
Thanks!!
d
I doubt the trim level is the answer. No offense to your pre-conceptions but usually non-US spec vehicles are finished to a higher standard. For example, my Australian Outback Limited has self levelling rear end, dual range transmission and leather interior. It does not have electric seats but has 6 stacker CD. It also has full size spare. I wonder whether there is a difference in measurement between dry and wet weight in different countries?
Cheers
Graham
How about what cars have you owned, and how long did you own them. Obviously, a Subie has to be in there somewhere.
Here's mine:
1972 Plymouth Fury (ex-Philadelphia cop car) - 4 months
1971 Chevrolet Vega - 8 months
1972 Plymouth Satellite - 9 years
1984 Honda Prelude - 10 years
1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic - 3 years
1990 Mazda RX7 GTUs - 4 years
1994 BMW 325i - 7 years
1998 Ford Escort - 2 years
2000 Honda CR-V - 6 months
2000 Isuzu Rodeo - 1 year
1991 BMW 318is - current
2001 BMW 540i - current
2002 Subaru Outback - current
David
'65 Honda CB77 Super Hawk - 2 years
'68 Chevy Camaro - 5 years
'69 Honda CL-350 - 1 year
'70 Kawasaki Mach III 500 triple - 3 years
'72 Chevy G-20 Beauville van - 7 years
'72 Kawasaki 350 triple - 1 year
'74 Austin Marina - 2 years
'74 Honda CB550 four - 2 years
'76 Honda Accord - 4 years
'80 Honda Accord 4-door sedan - 4 years
'81 Honda Civic Wagon - 3 years
'84 VW Quantum (Wolfsburg Edition) wagon - 2 years
'84 Honda Civic S - 2 years
'86 Saab 9000 Turbo - 2 years
'87 Ford F-150 4x4 - 9 years
'88 Honda Accord LXi- 10 years
'91 Ford Explorer XLT- 10 years
'01 Subaru Forester S Premium - 1.5 years (current)
'98 Ford Explorer XLT - 5 years (current)
'98 Jiffy - 4 years (current, do trailers count?)
'96 Subaru Impreza Outback - 6 years (current)
'92 Honda Prelude Si- 3 years (current)
'86 Honda HR214 - 16 years (current, do lawn mowers count?)
Bob
I do prefer the handling of the Forester, but that's not to say that I don't like the Outback. I drive an LS now (3.0 liter, 5-spd) which is so wonderful, but I have to let it go because of expenses. So, I'm concerned with the lack of pep of the Outback, but I guess I'd be getting used to it. Really, my kids will have a lot to say about the choice given that one can't go wrong with either here in the Rockies, and given that they will be sitting back there a lot. I sat in the Forester for a few minutes and thought I was going to have to get a butt replacement!! In any case, thanks for your posting. If it were totally up to me, I'd get the Forester. But it ain't, so we'll see what is expressed by the rest of the family.
d
Hope you find the solution.
I went through a similar decision process last year and ultimately bought the OB wagon rather than the Forester for space considerations. There is a fairly big difference in the amount of usable space in the OB compared to the Forester, particularly in the back seat. A good friend of mine has the 02 Forester and it really is a nice car, but the back seat is TINY for 6 footers such as myself. The Forester was about the same price as the OB, has the exact same drivetrain, similar features, etc. but was just too small for me. Subjectively, I prefer the looks of the OB to the Forester, too, but neither one's going to win any beauty contests. The 4cyl/5sp combo pull amazingly well...I cannot believe how well this car tackles mountain passes in 5th gear. My previous car required downshifting to 4th or 3rd to make it up over the Sierras, but the OB will pull it in 5th with no problems and stay above 70 mph. Off the line, though, it is a bit sluggish but not too bad.
-mike
Thanks VERY MUCH for the mountain driving information!!!! That is extremely pertinent to life in the Front Range area of the Rockies, as much of our family's play time is above 10,000 feet. How does passing go in the Outback? I currently drive a 3.0L 5-spd Lincoln LS which kicks butt in every possible respect, and I can't expect the OB to perform the same way. Still, I'd like to think that it's going to offer some good power when passing.
Thanks again!!
d
When you have the tires / wheels balanced, make absolutely sure that they strip off the old weights first. I had a 'bounce' at highway speed, that only seemed to get worse with each balancing attempt. By try #3, I must have had 5 lbs of lead on each rim!
Steve
Freddi: Do you have factory or after-market wheels? If after-market,the center hole size on the wheel may be larger than the hub that fits through it. If the wheel isn't centered exactly on the hub, shimmy will occur - at what speed is variable. There are plastic inserts available to put in the wheel center so that they fit snugly centered on the hub & lugs. Happened with my 97 OB when I put non-Subaru wheels on it - bolt pattern & offset were correct, just the wheel center was too big.
Cheers!
Paul
'79 Ford Fiesta (new - '79 - '82)
'79 Datsun 810 (new - '80 - '91)
'76 Ford F-150 (used - '82 - '94)
'87 Chev Nova CL (aka: corolla) (new - '86 - '93)
'90 Toyota Camry LE-V6 wgn (new - '90 - '97)
'93 Toyota Corolla Dx wgn (new - '93 - '01)
'97 Dodge Gnd Caravan Sport (new - '97 - '00)
'00 Ford Windstar SE (new - '00 - '02)
'02 Subaru OB wgn (new - '01 ->)
'02 Honda Odyssey EX (new - '02 ->)
Steve
'74 Olds 98 Regency
'86 Lebaron GTS Turbo
'91 Ford POS Escort
'97 Isuzu Rodeo
'88 Subaru XT6 AT
'00 Isuzu Trooper LS
'91 Subaru XT6 MT
-mike
'82 Mazda GLC Sport (piece of junk)
'83 Camaro Z28 (150hp! Can you believe that?)
'85 Honda Civic 4-door
'85 Dodge Colt
'89 Accord Coupe
'90 Civic 4-door SE
'95 Nissan Maxima SE (very satisfying car overall)
'97 Honda CR-V (current faithful reliable kidsmobile)
'00 Prelude SH (6 months - returned to Honda on a arbitration buyback)
'01 Acura CL-S (current)
my stereo (standard Subaru cassette with AM/FM) resets after even few minutes being turned off like I would disconnect a battery cable. Battery seems pretty decent - no problems what so ever. What could that be? Is it time to buy a new radio? Pls help.
P.S. Sounds like we've got a lot of "mountain people" here on the site! ;-)
Steve
Speedos aren't linked to Odometers. Odos are usually more accurante. Car & Driver this month has an interesting article about that.
Dave: I'm curious, why did you only keep the CR-V for 6 months? Is it because most Subie owners are named Dave, and you wanted to fit into the demographic? ;-)
Why did I choose the Forester over the Outback? Primarily because to me it felt more fun to drive. It may be the shorter wheelbase or the lighter weight, but I just had a bigger smile on my face with the Forester (I was comparing 1998 models, BTW).
At the time we had no kids, but we were planning on them. Space was not a big issue, and the difference back then was small, anyway.
Last consideration was price. My limit was $20k, and the Outback was just over that limit, though with more equipment than my Forester L. But I paid $19.2k and had enough left in the target budget for my moonroof.
Wait 'til May to see the new Forester. It's supposed to be bigger in the back seat, and have a more upscale interior.
-juice
1965 Corvair Monza Convertible (current) and (13) other Corvairs including America's first minivan, a Greenbrier.
1979 Plymouth Horizon TC3 (VW powered - our first new car)
1980 Honda Accord LX
1982 Honda Accord Sedan
1981 Dodge Colt (twin-stick) <- blast to drive
1985 Plymouth Voyager <- DOG!
1986 Honda Civic sedan
1986 "Toyolet" Chevy Nova
1987 Nissan Pathfinder (1987 - 1992) Indestructible, probably would run to 300,000 miles or more!
1982 Honda Civic Wagon (Bought used)
1987 Honda Civic Wagon (Bought used)
1990 Subaru Justy <- Our First Subaru
1992 Subaru Legacy "L" FWD Auto <- Great car but tranny went out at 74,000 miles
1992 Mazda MPV AWD <- another dog.
1995 Pontiac Trans sport Minivan - would have kept but it blew it's engine at 74,000 miles!
1996 Acura Integra LS (1996 - 1999) <- Wife had a blast with this car!
1999 Honda Odyssey EX (replaced the Trans sport)
1999 Honda Accord EX Coupe V-6 <- My wife reminds me that she loved this car everytime she sees one.
(traded both 1999 Hondas for the LL Bean due to changes in income 8-<)
1961 Pontiac Tempest Safari Wagon (Museum piece, current)
2001 Subaru Outback LL Bean (current)
Cars purchased for my two daughters (I just like to buy cars)
1984 Saab Turbo sedan "Rose" <- another car that was fun to drive!
1991 Nissan Sentra SE <-great gas mileage even with 170,000 miles!
1997 Ford Ranger X-cab, flare-side, 4-cyl, 5-speed (My current driver until my Daughter comes home from college the summer)
1993 Saturn SL2 <- For my Daughter that turns 16 in 2-weeks (current)
Paul in MN.
-mike
1984 Honda Elite 125 scooter, 1987-1989
198? Yamaha XT125, 1989-1989 (stolen)
1987 Honda XL250, 1989-1990 (stolen)
1980 Datsun 210, 1990-1990
1986 Chevy Sprint, 1990-1991
1991 Ford Escort GT, 1991-1998
1994 Yamaha Razz 50 scooter, 1995-1995 (stolen)
1998 Subaru Forester, 1998-present
1993 Miata MX-5, 2001-present
Ironically, both Hondas had engine problems. The Elite was air cooled, and the engine actually siezed. I rebuilt it and sold it. It was still a fun ride. The XL had the top end blow. This is why I giggle when people refer to "Honda reliability", thinking 100% engine failure by my experience.
The Mustang was junk. The Escort gave me some problems, but the powertrain was Mazda and it held up for 107k miles, when it was totalled.
The Datsun and the Sprint were beaters. I timed the Sprint well, because that's when gas prices were astronomically high because of Kuwait. 50 mpg at the time was nice.
The Razz scooter was to get back and forth to the metro. I had it kryptonite locked, and would you believe they REMOVED THE WHEEL and stole the darn thing? I gave up on anything with two wheels after that, realizing I am jinxed.
-juice
Our "claim to fame" around here is Margaretville!
1968 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe (2 years)
1970 Audi 100LS (15 months - went to SEA)
1971 Audi 100LS (survived SEA, Euro specs, 3-1/2 years)
1966 Ford Mustang GT Fastback (came with wife in 1974, still have both, only 78K original miles [car, not wife])
1975 Audi Fox (back in US, 13 years)
1977 Datsun B210 "Honey Bee" (won from WLS in Chicago after FM radio stolen from Mustang, 4 years)
1986 Dodge Lancer ES (12 years)
1979 Toyota Corona LE (bought from mom in 1988 when she gave up 5-speeds - at age 70 - for an auto Accord, had 35K miles - garaged - 4 years)
1989 Dodge Caravan LE (turbo, 5-speed, 13 years)
1997 Nissan Maxima SE (still have)
2000 Outback Ltd. Wagon (still have)
GTO was just plain hairy - lucky I survived at 16. Bought the Fiat because I couldn't afford to run the goat any more - Fiat was a blast! Audi had needed storage space - Fiat was not a long-term car to say the least. Euro Audi picked up with 2.5K miles - great car. Fox ended my affair with Audis - learned that lesson despite its longevity with us. Mustang lives in garage with antique plates and matching insurance policy. Datsun was dead reliable - and a rust nightmare. Lancer (turbo) was the best compromise in a crummy time to buy cars - did pretty well, actually. Corona was sweet - great ladies' car. Boss' wife bought it when we moved to Texas - car totalled a year later by a red light-runner in DC. Caravan was an excellent vehicle despite Chrysler reputation - and its untimely demise at 13 years and 115K with a broken camshaft. Maxima is best car I've ever had - bullet fast, dead reliable, and very fuel-efficient. OB just turned 20K - no problems save leaky sunroof.
All cars were manual trannies except Mustang.
Cheers from Ken in [snowy??!!] Seattle
Is there a cure for this problem?
Cars owned in Ireland
1947 Austin 10
1949 Austin Devon.
1953Austin A30
1951 Austin Devon.
1953Austin Somerset,
1959 Morris Minor.
1961 Morris MInor.
1967 Vauxhall Viva.
1973 Vauxhall Viva.
Cars in Canada.
1969 Cortina GT.
1974 Capri 3 litre.
1978 Ford Fairmont.
1976 Honda accord.
1979 Malbu Classic.
1979 Honda Civic wagon.
1979 Honda Accord sedan.
1982 Honda Civic wagon
1982 K car.
1983 Accrd hatchback.
1986 mecury topaz.
1988 Honda Accord EXI.
1989 honda Accord EXI.
1991 Honda Accord ex sedan.
1993Honda Accord EX wagon.
2001 Subaru Legacy GT wagon (current)
Quite a list.
Cheers Pat.
Ron
Just to prove the link between this engine and Subaru, I have both. My H4 5spd OB of course, and the Rover (nee Buick) V8 in my 1980 Triumph TR8 (see my profile). Interestingly both engines have exactly the same maximum bhp and torque figures, which shows you how far engine technology has come in the intervening 22 yrs. But of course the TR8 can still blow off a lot of cars because of it's extremely light weight and precise handling.
This engine still lives on as the Buick 3.8L V6, which is the front 3/4 of the V8. I rented one in the summer of 2000 and had the opportunity to verify this visually. An ever-decreasing number of parts (e.g. water pump, oil filter, thermostat) are still interchangeable.
It looks to me that the people on this forum go for just slightly "different" sorts of cars than the mainstream (why else would I have bought a yellow Pacer?). Perhaps this has something to do with us choosing Subaru, or perhaps it's just because we are interested in our, and by extension, other cars.
86 Mustang GT 200HP/5spd - blast to drive, twitchy? rear end. Sold to "kid" who beat on it.
86 Corolla 2 door/auto - girlfriend's car (now wife). Great car, especially in the city. Super reliable. Gave to mother in law who totalled it. Loved that car.
92 Camry - 4cyl/auto The standard by which I judge cars. Traded at 180K miles for OB.
00 Sienna - At 41K miles now. Silky smooth.
01 OB 4cyl/auto - Still no snow to have fun with.
P.S. - I credit my better half for "turning me on" to Toyotas. She purchased the Corolla at the same time I purchased the GT, without my help! She previously owned an Omni, and I think she kept dating me just to keep that POG going!
Greg
Bob