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Ken
Bob
Can't wait for that future 2.5T GT, just in time to replace my 98 GT! Now, if they put a real "manualmatic" on it rather than the pathetic sportshift they have on the 03 it will be really something. I read somewhere that the Subaru WRC cars can change gears in half the time of the Ferraris - like less than 100msec!! Get a production version of that on the GT (and STi) and it will be awesome!
I lived in CA, the factory recommends 5W-30, does anyone use 10W-30? Do you notice any difference on gas mileage?
If the engine rattle is "pinging", mine does occassionally do this very lightly under load. It does not really effect anything unless it is severe. At 1400 miles, your system might not have adjusted to your driving habits yet (yes, it does learn). As for 5W-30, check your manual and it will show you the grade to use for your temp climate. I currently use 5W-30 Mobil 1, but hear some knocking when cold. I am going to try 10W-30 next.
Greg
-mike
-juice
--jay
Seriously, I did not feel that much difference between the OBW and a Legacy L when I was shopping for my '02.
Steve
Alland
Greg
Give it a try. Just remember to give only a tiny squirt because the friction between the belt and the pulley is important.
-mike
Also, keep the window spotlessly clean where it contacts the rubber. Crud holds water.
Steve
my two cents.
now that's 4 cents.
Len
Use a lithium based lube instead, they even make that in a spray can like WD40. That might make windows greasy, but I'd look for another alternative to WD40.
-juice
Cheers!
Paul
Bob
Greg
-mike
Greg
Other options:
The S6 and RS6 Avant are not realistic even though I dream about them all the time (are $60-80k if you can find one). Granted they have V8s and are a premium brand but the price is too high for me. I did consider saving for the S6 but the price just floated too high.
I always thought there should be an M3 wagon BUT such a beast does not exist so the 330Xi is all thats left. BUT at nearly $45k loaded its not that interesting to me.
Mazda will release a Mazdaspeed 6 wagon at some point (I hope) but if its not AWD I will not even look at it. I like my 01 Protege ES but I dont like big power FWD cars.
Subaru will have an STi WRX wagon but its too small and I really really dont want the wing and all the gold stuff.
On the other hand a 2.5L 225hp Legacy GT turbo for $27k would be fine with me.
-mike
I am wondering what the differences are. Aside from the body cladding (OB) and sunroofs (L/SE), I don't see much of a difference. Can anybody help me? Should I see one as a much better deal than the other?
Thanks,
Tamara
-mike
Shifter surround
HVAC surround
Left side of wheel fog/cruise panel.
(sorry for the cross post)
bit
There isn't much difference. You can do a comparison on the Edmunds main page to see all of them. Basically the Outback has a slightly raised suspension and higher profile tire. It also has more head room due to power driver seat and no sun roof. The outback also has the outside plastic trim/cladding. Otherwise there are just a few little odds/ends but overall they are the same vehical. Both are great.
--jay
I specifically chose the OB over the Legacy in 01 when I bought my OB because of the LSD rear end...I think it's a very worthwhile feature to have in the really nasty stuff. Having said that, though, I would probably choose the LSE if I were walking into the showroom today. It's an outstanding value, a bit more fun to drive than the OB, and doesn't have the 2 tone cladding (which I've never really fallen in love with). Either one, though will be a great choice!
Brian
Where do people store their cds in the Legacy/OB? I think I tried to put a case in that little storage compartment under the radio, and it didn't quite fit. Do people keep their cds in the center console?
Thanks again,
Tamara
Greg
01 OB in Winestone /mud/sand/salt/ice
Steve
Thanks.
S
The base OB has the All Weather Package. The OB has larger breaks, better suspension (IMO, and I believe the seat is height adjustable. You are giving up on the dual moon roofs.
I think the price is now more comparable as you can snag a Base OB for about $20,300-$20,500.
Has anyone had problems with the headroom in the rear seat of the OB? I sat in the Legacy GT and was almost bumping the roof.
Decisions Decisions... Wish it could be one of each. lol
- Lou
The 2002 OB doesn't come standard with the all weather package. I have found one at a dealer about 2 hours away - new, but with 3600 miles on it, manual transmission, for $20500. If I could get a 2003 for that price, I'd go for it! (I live in Arkansas, so shopping at a car dealer in the DC area is definitely out - unless they deliver)
In fact, I was going to write to ask the list if the $20500 price sounded reasonable for a car like this. I guess I'd still like to know what people think....
Tamara
Liberty Subaru Base Outback with 5 Spd. The 20,299 is on their "specials" page. Unfortunately, I don't think they deliver to Arkansas.
Van Bortel Subaru
The Van Bortel site reports a $500 cash back incentive although their prices are higher.
-mike
Last year I was willing to go $2k higher for the OBW over the Legacy L wagon (neither had sun roofs then) for the following items std on the OBW:
Limited slip rear and more ground clearance (I live with snow), power drivers seat, upgraded headlamps (4 bulb vs 2 bulb) with fogs (which I re-aimed for more 'down the road light'), better roof rack, larger tires on alloy wheels, rock salt and stone resistant lower body cladding.
You have to decide whether these items are important to you (or maybe even fall in the negatives category).
Steve
Tamara - can I ask which one you like emotionally? and what color?
Greg
I am not sure, however, that I can get my local dealer to match prices with dealers in NY, NJ, or DC. I will go and ask, but I'm sure he'll just laugh at me. That is why we are considering last year's model at another dealer 2 hours away. It would be a way to get into an Outback.
Also, the local dealer has those low mileage 2002 OBs that we may go for. They are automatics, which we don't really want. It is a tough decision, drive 2 hours for a car we'd like better or buy local and save the hassle.
As for the colors, I really like the red and white ones, the seamist green is OK. The dark blue is OK, too. In a perfect world I'd get a red one, probably.
Sigh.
Tamara