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--rolfe.
I also heard rumors that plans are to boost the hp 3.8 rather than offer the 3.5l. I cannot validate this rumor (heard on line elsewhere) but it would make sense because the engine already fits therefore less expensive to offer. Anyone else hear anything?
Our 99 GC SE runs so flawlessly with zero problems in 2 years that we are just looking at all minivans in case it ever does deteriorate. I think we will get a T&C next time as the price is about the same with same equipment and when items are standard, the resale or trade-in value is higher.
The idea of getting an additional rear seat sounds good for those wanting an 8 passenger van. I think the one piece rear seat is MORE comfortable than the 50/50 split rear but would not work very well for the middle row. I think the Odyssey 2nd row seat ability to be bench OR separate seats with armrests would be a good feature for others to copy. I like the 25.5 gal fuel tank of Venture but overall comfort and conveniences are much superior in a DC minivan.
It is difficult to imagine why separate temperature controls for driver and front passenger are not standard on all nice vehicles. The Dual Zone Temperature Control (now Triple Zone) and Trip Computer are 2 very nice features that we rate very high on our "Want to Have" items. Easier for us to fold down and slide 3rd seat forward for the occasional trip to Home Depot than to get the Magic Seat and suffer without Dual or Triple Zone Temperature Control.
I went there simply because they happen to have 3 TC EX in stock (they wanted $300 above invoice plus their advertising fee). But after comparing the monthly payment, I personally felt it was worth shelling out an extra $70/month to get all the features in the Limited. The I was offered $26,490 for the EX, which was really tempting because it was $10,000 less than the Limited's sticker and $7,000 less than the the bargained price of the Limited, but once the monthly payment was calculated based on subsidized APR for the Limited, it didn't make sense to settle for the EX. What finally swayed me -- sitting in the EX made me feel like I finally broke down to buy my very first minivan -- it feels and looks too plain. Sitting in the Limited appeased me somewhat -- because it feels more like sitting in a luxo (or semi-luxo for true luxo fanatics).
Undoubtedly, this is not the best of deals, judging from other postings I read. But I want to thank all those who posted here. Your comments helped me out tremendously. Thank you. Sorry for the long post -- but hope this is food for thought for those of you in So. Cal. who are waiting for EX's.
I'm wondering if anyone has experimented with tweaking the fuel octane of the 3.8. The 215hp rating is (per the T&C brochure) based on mid-grade fuel (89). I assume the increase in compression ratio this year (from 9.0 to 9.3) allows one to benefit from the slightly higher octane. I've read that the ECU will take some time to increase the spark advance once the switch has been made, so it may take a tank or two to notice the difference. Also, has anyone seen performance data for this engine with regular grade fuel? I've been running 87, but average mileage has been 17.3 mpg. Somewhat disappointing, I think.
Has anyone been running 89 consistently for awhile?
Any one else with this experience?
Not exactly trouble free but drives/looks/works better than any other. And the stereo is awesome.
Also, mine came without the new console and the in-dash CD (it was an early deliver and yes, I got a great deal on it...) - does anyone know whether either of these can be retrofitted (the salesman said "No"), and is there a good on-line parts seller for this kind of stuff?
Thoughts on gas/octane for the 3.8?
Finally, I have one of those plastic roof carriers that fit well on my '91 using the rain gutters - any experience with the newer model's rack, and whether my tie down clips can be used on the rack rails, or do I need to find another carrier?
Thanks much to all and happy vanning.
Double sea kayaks can be especially long so you don't want to crank them down at the ends and bust them midships, but you definitely want to secure them front and rear, as well as putting ropes/straps across the middle. If you get too much boat hanging out there, you may need to think about some kind of cradle.
My old Voyager had some slits under the front bumper that I was able to stick a carabiner in for an easy, simple attachment. My Nissan is a pain however, and I actually have a little rope loop attached to some of the body framework in my engine compartment to tie off the front of my boats too (there's a tie down underneath the rear). It fits out of the way of anything when not in use and doesn't scratch anything, and hangs out from the front of the hood when in use.
Better to try to find something under the bumper to tie off to if you can though.
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I could not come anywhere near some of the prices posted on this forum in the tri-state area -- and I really tried. I couldn't find anyone who would take 6k off of a Limited, a figure I've seen posted several times.
It really came down to either driving a new van up from Car Max in Atlanta or paying about $1200 more to a local dealer who provides Saturday morning hours for their customers.
MSRP was about $34,800 and our cost was about $30,500 after rebate (not including taxes, fees, license, etc).
Other than a rattling noise in the left side of the dash, we love the van and the dealership made the whole purchasing experience very easy and enjoyable.
Our van came with the "Touring Suspension". I don't know what that is, but the van seems to be stiffer on the curves than the demo Lxi I drove.
After putting on 300 miles, I'm very happy we bought the Lxi over the Honda or Toyota.
Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences on pricing, and problems with AWD.
under problems, type in chrysler truck, otherwise it won,t work. The campaign number is 00V268000 and covers vans mfg between feb 95 to sept 99. Print one out and take it back to your dealer.
TIA
My suggestion would be that if you are not stuck with LXI, and if you have time, and if meltonsales has your color for the Limited then go for it. Not only will you save money now but will also have high resale value. Get the van before they change their minds. They are already $1000 up because of disconinuation of dealers incentive. Get all the details of the van and APR before you leave though.
I did something kind of crazy. I ordered a T+C Limited in Almond Pearl. The reason I say Im crazy is because I didnt see the color yet. The dealer claims its a 2002 color, but it has become avail on the 2001's. (It was on his computer) Sounds like a nice color, and I am willing to take the risk. Anyone ever heard of this??
Gerry
Anyone anywhere know anything? Pathetic excuse of a car company - and I own a T&C now! Want the 3.5 right away.
One other thought - why in the world did they crap up the seats with that ultrasuede? You can't even get all leather seats now.
Really sad. Great van otherwise.
HELP!
http://chicago.tribune.com/marketplaces/cars/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-0103080002,FF.html
Maybe I will wait until the 2002 models come out in fall to see if they are waiting for the next model year.
What idiots for planting that seed and then pulling it. It makes me wonder what the 2002 will have that the 2001 does not now.
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Steve
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Sylvia "Talk to the Hosts Part Three" Apr 12, 2001 8:25pm
Hopefully the missing posts will reappear, or perhaps you'd like to repost in the meantime.
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I also have a roof rack that howls like crazy. The van was built late January 2001. Does anyone know when the TSB for the roof rack was issued?
--rolfe.
Dealers are asking $1800 for the Navi (list price) plus installation. I am debating on getting a Magellan 750M instead. Any thoughts?
I also have water seeping under the side molding for the passenger power door, so I may also need to take it to the dealer for an inspection.
Any clues for the cause of these problems? Thanks.
Cary
Yes...I have kids.
What did you do with your extra console and is the new console (w/VCR) have any functionality?
Sorry for all the questions. But it is a big investment....