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--rolfe.
-Larry
-Larry
Naples, NY
- Paul
What possible rationale is there for DC's decision to use both high and low beams together during the switch from high to low? There is no dual use when switching from low to high. It seems a bit whimsical.
-Larry
Naples, NY
I have '01 T&C Limited AWD with 11,000 miles on it. I had to had have the power door PCM replaced the first day I drove it home.
Since then I have had to have the rear seats worked on to end a continuous rattling. I have had the "2100 RPM" resonance since day 1. The passenger sliding door was off track and had to be fixed. The driver's side power window regulator has been replaced and the airbag clock spring has been replaced.
Then as they say the s*** hit the fan. 7 weeks ago I was in because of numerous problems. Since then I have been waiting for a new drive axle, steering column, and drivers seat. The dealer tells me all of these parts are on back order. "Apparently others are having the same issues."
A week ago Sunday, they had to come tow the van away because the A/C clutch and bearings seized and burned up making the vehicle inoperable.
Needless to say I am very angry at this point, and am pressing for an extended warranty. When the van is operating properly is the quietest, nicest looking, smooth riding van in my opinion. However, these quality issues are going to be the death of me. Funny how Chrysler is now pushing a 7yr/100K mile powertrain warrranty. Think their crap reputation may be doing some damage to sales?
I am speaking here based on 51 years of driving and 45 years of owning about 15 different vehicles. Your minivan's extraordinary (in my experience) failure history suggests a strong component of dealer incompetence and/or dishonesty.
Competence and honesty are the two key attributes of an auto service organization. Labor rates are much less important, as is the congeniality of the sales staff or the apparent sincerity of the service manager. I have seen the worst: I've seen service organizations that take a fender off of one customer's car to fix another customer's car, or charge the manufacturer's warranty or customer for service work that simply wasn't done, or break B while fixing A in order to generate repeat business. I am not suggesting that your service organization is at this level, but your experience with them is damn suspicious.
It is entirely possible that a lemon, as defined by your state's lemon law, is dealer-created. You should carefully check your state's lemon law. You may be entitled to a new vehicle. Good luck!
-Larry
Naples, NY
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I have an '02 LXi with the 29U package and I DO have a power passenger seat. Note that this is a FWD, not an AWD - not sure if this makes a difference.
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Paul -
My power passenger seat problem is not sorted out yet. Do you have cloth seats or leather seats?
-Larry (Lsher@frontiernet.net)
1. Roof rack cross bars replaced because of wind noise.
2. Rattling noise from what sounded like the rear of the van turned out to be an improperly installed headliner, several retaining clips missing.
3. Four disk cd changer replaced. Cd player wouldn't play or eject cd's. Dealer did not return the four cd's which were in the palyer and and refused to replace them.
4. Drivers side window regulator replaced after window went down at a toll booth in pouring rain and wouldn't go back up.
5. Waiting for replacement drivers seat, on national back order. Heated seat doesn't work.
6. Driver's side power door has seized at times and not opened, however dealer can't replicate the problem so we wait until it happens again and hope we are near the dealer at the time.
The van is great on the highway and enjoyable to drive. However the workmanship is lacking. I also have a two year old 2000 Maxima which hasn't seen the dealer once since I drove it off the lot. If things keep up at this pace, this will be the last DC car for me and maybe the last American made car.
I continue to have conversations with my service manager about the status of any fix to the 2100 rpm resonance problem on 2001 AWDs (nothing to report). During the warmer months, the problem is only slightly annoying; now that it's cooler, it is quite annoying.
Yesterday I drove a 2002 ES AWD and could not reproduce the 2100 rpm resonance. Under the same conditions, my van was noisy. I've asked the service manager to find out if there was a design change for 2002. Obviously, if there was, I want the change; if not, I want my van to be repaired.
--rolfe.
Obviously Chrysler has or had a problem with their rotors, so I see no point in replacing them with MORE Chrysler rotors.
If you go to the Jeep Grand Cherokee board, you'll see this problem, along with the transmission woes some of you have been having is not just partial to the Chrysler minivans.
Limited to the second row and put the captians chairs in the third row? We are trying to decide between the split bench and the full deluxe third row bench. With three kids, it would make a difference if we cannot move the bench to the second row when more cargo space is needed.
But to answer your question about the 1 piece 3rd row seat, yes it can be moved to the 2nd row with no problem. The split 3rd row can also be moved to the middle position, also with no problem. Hope this helps!
I'm considering purchasing a 1997 TC LXi with 68K on the clock. Consumer Reports tries to steer you away from pre-98 models and after reading many of the posts about transmissions etc, I'm looking for some peace of mind.
Anyone have good or bad experiences with particular Extended Warranty companies? Also, any opinions about the 1997 model year in particular?
Thanks
Jeff Wilcox
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Invoice plus 1% minus $1500 for the rebate. Although I'm not sure it's a great deal, it is under the price edmunds lists for TMV by about $600.
We opted for the split bench after sitting in the full bench and concluding that it wasn't much more comfortable. We figure when extra cargo room is needed, we will remove the second row seats and put the bench in the second row.
Thanks to all on this board who take the time to post information. Because of this board, I knew much more about this vehicle then the sales people! It's amazing to me that people in sales do not take the time to know their product. Now wonder most of them seem incompetent!
Thanks
Jeff
Just in the beginning stages of a Mini-Van Hunt.
Makes my head spin just looking at everything. And I am trying to keep my options open, looking at all options. Biggest thing I have seen from all makes seems to be buy an extended warranty.
So, any comments on cost of factory warranty?
Thanks, PH
An important point about Chrysler's extended warranty: During the 0% financing period, if you purchase any of the DC warranties at the time you finance the vehicle, the warranty will be financed along with it, also at 0%. To me, that's a great deal and it is the one I took.
-Larry
Naples, NY
The most I have paid on a warranty is $2400 for a 7 yr 100K on a V-10 4WD excursion. and only $1200 on my Acura. Chrysler just seems out of the ball park.
The warranty covers 6 years or 75000 miles and has a $100 deductible. It is called "6/75 Added Care". The cost was $1190 plus local sales tax. Coverage is on an extensive list of items, as opposed to some coverage plans that say, effectively, everything but wear items like brakes, tires, light bulbs, etc. I have no idea whether this warranty plan will turn out to be a good idea or not. It is transferable to a new owner for a $50 transfer fee.
-Larry
Naples, NY
3.8 liter engine
leather interior
side air bags
traction control
CD changer-4 disc in dash
power liftgate
roof rack
heated front seats
full size spare
The best bid I got was $29,881 before tax and tags. Is this a decent price with the market place these days or is it too high?
With options, MSRP in the $35,500 range.
Invoice of about $32,500. So subtract current $1500 rebate for total of $31,000. Looks like you are another $1000 behind that even. Seems like a good deal as in KC they are offering $6,000 off the 01's.
out of curiosity, any trade invloved?
I am looking at 02 Limited's and have not talked numbers with a dealer yet.
The current powertrain warranty promotion gives me a bit more confidence in the Chrysler.
So if anyone would like to let us know their latest deals I would surely appreciate the info.
Pricing (using 29u package) invoice is $30,747. MSRP is $33,575. Current rebate of $1500 if you don't use the financing = $866 below invoice.
I would think you could still end up close to $1500 below invoice.
Have you tried any other dealers?
Once again sorry for the confusion.
Looks like no memory seats, no adjustable pedals? anything else?
The memory seats have been part of the Town & Country since the 1996 vans, and a part of the Limited ever since its introduction in 1998.
So the only differences are adjustable pedals, the tire pressure sensor, the new Almond Pearl replacing the now discontinued Champagne color, and the rear radio setup for rear passengers.
In KCK they have offered 01 Limiteds for $29,995 delivered (Tax & title extra)
So, will se what can be done over the next week or so.
Thanks for info, Paul
Also, noted the Sunflower Dodge is offering $7,000 of 01 trucks. Has to be some pretty big incentives out there.
Noticed most KCK area dealers still have many 01 T&C and 02's. Imagine they are all willing to deal.
Thanks so much for the info!!! Just a couple of questions:
1. Did your 02 T&C LXI have the 3.8 L engine, leather interior and heated front seats? I didn't see you mention those. But you did mention the electronics group which my deal did not include.
2. Can I call Greg at Main Line Chrysler and see if he can do your deal for me (it could save me over $700!)? If you don't want me to I won't. I live in Philly area and could go to this dealership. My E-mail is tigpalmer@aol.com
How is it driving so far??
Thanks again!
Marty Palmer