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are the cars he is looking at. maybe a 1992 or so
toyota corolla,mazda protege, or volkswagen
golf/jetta would be more appropriate. the average
40 year old can't afford the cars you mention.
p.s.- tell them there is a very nice 24 year old in birmingham,alabama who would gratefully take any of the three with a giant smile.
Still, they should save their money, buy him a five year old Accord or Camry, and let him wreck that instead.
Biggest concerns are:
Heard Volvo Customer Service is less than adequate. Something about it being outsourced. Is this true? Although I read somewhere that Volvo is #2 is customer satisfaction last year, so they can't be doing too much wrong.
Concerned that the S40 may be eliminated now that S60 is off the board and only a few thousand more. Anyone hear anything to this effect? Personally, I like the looks of the S40 better; the S60 is too big for me.
Concerned about the rear visability issue (although I guess i'll be able to see this for myself once I test drive).
Concerned about the stigma associated with the vehicle because of its affiliation with Mitsubishi and Ford ownership. I discount this concern since I know it shares very little, if any parts with a Mitsub (only chasis from what I hear) and that it is independant from Ford. Anyone disagree?
:-) Sorry so long... Comments welcomed.
BTW the S40 has leaped to tops on my want list since a test drive this weekend(still haven't driven the Passat). Unfortunately, I think it may be just out of my reach financially. I feel like starting a discussion so - After driving the S40 and 325 (both fairly stripped) I can't see how the bimmer is worth $3k-5k more.
SAAB 9-3 is a good car but it costs a little bit more than an A4 1.8t. A 9-3 may be faster but its interior is a little bit old-fashion or strange. I prefer Audi.
Of course I like BMW the most. If I have more money to spend, I'll buy a 325 AWD (I think $400+ for foldable rear seats is crazy.)
It surprises me S40 has more front head room, leg room, but it has less rear leg room than an A4...
S40 is more liked a Japanese car than a Volvo.
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just picked up the s40 this moring. I'm in Columbus,Ohio.sticker was $ 28,545. Lease was $ 279.00 with $ 2,779 cap cost reduction. included gap protection,and 15,000 miles. They made the first payment. Don't know if they're doing it for the wagon,sticker is $ 1,000 higher on the v40.This was the only red (non Metallic) the dealer had.
with the S40, leather, sun roof, wood trim etc.
The only "complaint" I have so far is that I
notice an excessive amount of wind noise.
(When I test drove the car, I left the lock box on the rear window so I didn't notice the noise). Anyway, when I mentioned it to the dealer, they said that it was due to the side mirror.
However, I strongly believe that the car is not
fit properly. Is anybody else experiencing this
problem ?. Right now it's for 39 mos, not for life.
mbruns, my experience is that unless you want a Lexus or big Benz, you should expect a minimal amount of either wind noise or road noise (tires). I'm quite certain that you shouldn't expect the S40 to be whisper quiet except for on new roads. If you get a chance, ask your dealer for a test drive in another S40 for comparison. The noise should probably be there but it shouldn't be intrusive (if it is then there probably is a problem of some sort). Fit of the body panels would be one of the last culprits I would suspect of causing wind noise but I suppose it is possible.
Good luck.
-rdo
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Ready for this...NO MONEY DOWN (Volvo sign and drive program), Volvo paid the first month, I paid the taxes up front.
Ready for this...$359/month for 39 months (actually 38 months since Volvo paid the 1st month). I think this is a terrific deal and I could not match it with any competing car...especially the safety features.
Have not seen this deal mentioned on this forum but it seems to be available in the New York region.
Looking forward to many happy miles.
if i run the numbers it seems that your deal at $279/month with the $2779 cap cost payment comes pretty close to the deal ($359/month)i got with no cap cost reduction or did i do the math wrong?
Was your starting point the sign and drive program or something else? I found there was no room to bargain due to Volvo offering such a terrific lease deal (i think they used a residual of 64%!
Either way, this is a lot of car for the money!
Good luck with your S40 and many happy miles!
Does anyone has photos of the 2001 S40 interior ? Is it actually using better material ?
Can you tell the ride difference between 2000 & 2001. Edmunds says Volvo improves the engine and increase the torque.
lancerfixer, Volvo does sell car seats that I would hope would fit the S40. They are available through the parts department at any dealership. Give them a call and ask if they've ever tried one in the 40 series car. Good luck.
-rdo
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seems like a terrific deal! that is $100/month less than the current Volvo deal.
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Called my salesman ,he said that was normal for the S40. I'll have them check it at the first oil change.
Great car.
Happy Holidays
Body feel on the S-40 isn't really volvo. door handles and door feel is very light. Hardware is so-so. side marker lights aren't tight, lower grill pieces aren't secure. Seems to lack that European feel. But, it runs great and economically.
Thanks.
If I a Passat, I will spend ~$800 to extend the bumper-bumper warranty to 5-6 years (I don't want to keep the car for 10 years).
S40
Pro: 1. Quicker
2. It did not require premium fuel in 2000
but I am not sure if the 2001 model needs
3. Volvo image
4. Safty-oriented
5. Automatic climate control
6. Power antenna
7. normal/sport mode
8. less weight (good for me but bad for some)
9. Larger glove box and better cup holder
10. better security system
11. better bumper-bumper warranty
12. Turning circle is smaller (good for U-
turn ??)
Passat
Pro: 1. Built-in fog lights
2. standard headlight washers in 2001.5 ?
3. updated model (2001.5)
4. Tilt and telescope steering wheel
5. Standard traction control
6. more interior and trunk room
7. nicer plastic inside (I think)
8. 1 touch AUTO up and down windows on
driver and passenger side. You can even
use the key to control windows/sunroof
up/down ! (S40 doesn't have any 1 touch
auto up window. It has only 1 touch auto
down driver side window. No 1 touch AUTO
up/down at passenger side)
9. more rear legroom
10. If you option for leather, Passat has
better leather than S40.
11. better powertrain warranty
12. You can choose 5-speed or automatic
trans. Tiptronic is much more fun than
S40's.
13. Better look.
14. Engine and components similar to A4's.
15. Full size alloy wheel spare tire.
16. Sunroof package gives you alloy wheels.
17. A little bit more sporty feel
18. It is easier to add a remote starter to
its security system.
Has anyone else had this problem.
Fully loaded (every option, bell and whistle)
Capitalized cost - $28,300
$3000 drive-off
48 month term
Monthly lease rate - $350 (includes tax)
Is this a good deal? The cap cost is $500 off MSRP.
Thanks in advance,
-Paul
There's a "retro fit" for this problem; something about too much amperage (or something) going to the lights hence they burn out.
Unfortunately, the retro fit (on my car) has also failed. After the retro fit fix, my passenger headlight burnt out in about 10 days, but the crowning achievement was that the other headlight also burnt out two days ago, leaving me with no low beam lights whatsoever (bright still works).
I'm afraid that this experience, including bringing the car in to the dealership three times this month is starting to sour me on the car. I shoulda kept the Honda...
The Volvo is currently at the dealership where the stumped service dept is trying to figure out what's going on.