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Don't see any available board for "Prices Paid" for A8 or A6. Can we start one?
Then come back here and let us know how it goes.
You might get a good deal at the end of the year on a leftover car when the model year changes, or on a demo w. some miles on it. Most any high end car takes a hit on first year depreciation.
Some of the colors are very hard to find and in high demand. The Amaretto interior is absolutely gorgeous and many dealers won't budge off MSRP on those colors.
believed it their either. i was a MB buyer for about 5 years and also have had some BMW's. so far Audi has not disappointed. keep in mind that the A8 is a luxury/sport sedan. more emphasis on sport.
It is unbelievable to anyone seeing this window that the crack could have been caused by anthing other than a misaligned guide pin. Looks like it torqued the window slightly putting pressure on the guide pin. Even the fact that Audi couldnt definitively determine the cause, for the lousy $500 or so bucks, they should have eaten the cost. You dont treat A8 customers this way. Now, after all this grief and the knowledge that Audi doesnt stand behind their products, I will never own another Audi.
I owned a BMW 740 perviously, and I know I would have been treated better. Of course, Lexus would never have asked the question. If you want to retain luxury car customers, you have to treat them better. I like the car, but will never patronize Audi again.
Ejad74
Bigger issue is no acceleration when the gas-pedal is pressed while moving at 20-60 mph resulting in coast mode for up to 100ft that then turns into full throttle acceleration for 100ft. Car also demonstrates this safety issue when accelerating from a stop at random intervals, at first no throttle response then sudden wide open throttle acceleration one time almost motoring over pedestrians.
Windshield wipers stop during the wiping process go to the park position then stop then start wiping again.
Fixing the MMI took couple days but the intermittent acceleration issue and wipers problem are in the loop of if we can’t duplicate the problem we won’t try fix it.
So you’re left with driving a car with safety issues.
The previous mentioned intermittent acceleration issue and wipers problem still exist with the wipers stopping while operating in a snow storm. Previous interment problems that represented safety issue with other brands of automobiles were attacked by replacing the most likely parts causing the condition. Audi’s answer is drive it till it fails, you kill someone or you’re self. Great customer relations you kill off the customer or he goes to jail.
O well life is still fun at least for now!
I WILL NEVER OWN OR LEASE ANOTHER AUDI AGAIN. I ENCOURAGE ANYONE CONSIDERING A LUXURY CAR TO LOOK ELSEWHERE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE COMPLETELY DISAPPOINTED WITH AUDI SERVICE.
You could probobly find multiple people that would never buy a Mercedes Benz or a BMW because of an isoloated bad experience.
A8 sales have doubled this past year, so Audi must be doing something right.
i also feel that their are some people who just
have unreasonable expectations and can't be pleased.
so far my Audi dealer has been great. they also sell BMW. great service when i had my BMW. even my local MB dealer is terrific. I'm sure to some people this is unbelievable and BS but it's true. so far...so good.
Dealerships are under the gun to have high CSI and JD power scores, so a lot of places bend over backwards to make people happy.
You'll always have a few bad dealerships and people who treat you less than stellar. But in this competitive market we're in, that happens less and less.
People tend to forget how complex these high end cars are getting like the A8. With nav systems, air suspensions, and gizmos galore, it's all the more ethings can go wrong.
I've heard of more than a few buybacks and lemons on A8's when the MMI cars first came out. So there is some merit to complaints. But I think the 05's are better.
However (there is always a however hahaha) I don’t think it as stated above
“I also feel that their are some people who just have unreasonable expectations and can't be pleased.”
unreasonable to expect the car not to suddenly accelerate with out the driver wanting it to! For us with memories Audi paid a dear price for denial of this in prior models which did result in a recall and injuries! Along with that issue gee I guess wanting the wipers to work when needed is an unreasonable request.
My attempt here at this Forum is to gain knowledge about these issues and not to bash Audi or flame others. Just to find solutions to dangerous issue in what is a fine road car.
Thanks Guys
Another situation: Guy in my office has a new 04 A8. The bottom insert in the cupholder came out, so he took it in to be replaced under warranty. Audi refused to pay for the replacement. Why? He was told that there was evidence of moisture on the insert and this caused the adhesive to fail. The customer caused the moisture to be present. Therefore, not a manufacturer's defect. Remember, this is a cup holder. Liquids are in cups and condensation forms on cups. They made my friend pay the $50 for the replacement. After spending $75,000 for their flagship car, Audi made this guy pay for the insert. Guess what? Audi lost another customer.
Unreasonable? I dont think so. Angry? You bet I am.
Intesting since all of that was bunk and Audi was cleared of any defects. There were only drivers with their foot on the wrong pedal.
M
This is one I just found: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cjm_18.htm
But let's try not to get too sidetracked on that. Audi-related though it is, it's not really topical to the A8. This happened something like 17 years ago and if you continue to research it, you'll find that Audi addressed it with some design changes even though it was never clear they were at fault.
O by the way before the car got out of the dealership this time a bearing in the alternator failed, which was noted as operating properly on the RO after a request to inspect it. It’s been in the shop a week now. Total about 10 days since Aug. purchase. Still no resolution on the acceleration and wiper issues after 6 months.
Life Is Good
That's a great article. I wish more articles like that were written. I'm so tired of so many people these days wanting to "cash in" on anything bad that happens to them, always blaming anyone but themselves.
Getting back to the A8, Joelk01, I agree that you weren't pampered by AOA, and for your money, they should have replaced the window without any haggling. It is my understanding that AOA now has placed a greater emphasis on trying to improve customer relations as well as to try to weed out the less esteemed dealerships and to try to compete more on par with Lexus in that category. Granted, we've got a long way to go!
Best wishes, all.
M
Life Is good!
And thanks for the invitation. I am new to this Forum, but have a general question and would appreciate actual experience, as opposed to advice. (Sorry if this question has been posted before!) I purchased a 2005 A8L 6 months ago and love the car. I chose not to purchase the $1,000 Audi Cell phone and cradle package at the time. Now my company is offering a special "free" package consisting of the Motorola v60s phone. If I buy the cradle, (approximately $295), from Audi, is there any reason to suspect the Moto phone won't work in the system?
also there is going to be 3 other choices for radio
options. i would think that the S8 is just around
the corner. hopefully it will be available soon.
nor with the s class or beemer 7 or 6 because of their recent poor reliability and complicated electronics.
the phaeton i passed on because of poor handling in back roads.
now,i saw the new short wheelbase audi a8 a few days ago.no test ride as yet.pending answers on reliability.
the interior is almost superior to theta of the phaeton which is ,short of the old bentleys,the nicest interior out there.
my question to you guys ...........
how reliable is the a8
how good a handler on back roads?
any addl,input is welcomed
thank you ffb
oh yes ,also looked at the new m35 m45 from infinity. one of my cars is an fx 35 and it is just a vette with an suv body.great but tiresome on long trips which i do a lot as i commute between fl. ct and vt.
i may go this way but not too convinced by the shape of the new m series.
i wanted the width of a full size car but not the
added length that came with the L version. the
rear seat still has plenty of room for 99% of the
population. the MB S was too long ...the E and 5's too narrow...
...the LS is for old men and the 7's styling not for me.
the A8 handles great. the suspension
can be adjusted firmer/softer or left alone for the cars computer
to decide how to dampen it. when it comes to
comparing it to the other cars in the class i have
only driven S's, 7's and the LS430. it is firmer than
the LS and S and very similiar to the 7. the car is
exciting to drive. plenty of power and enjoyable
on twisty roads while at the same time having
plenty of luxury to relax in. plus an added benefit
is that when it's parked....it's nice to look at!
For those of who haven't read it, the article rates the A8L just behind the 745Li, and ahead of XJ8L, Phanteon, and S500, in that order. But the authors each picked the car they'd want; 1 picked the Jag and every other picked the A8. The rating system is just very skewered toward handling and "racing", that the BMW won those categories and therefore the overall rating. But when you looked at the words in the article, even aside from the authors personal choices, the A8 was the best spoken of by far. Go Audi!
:shades: Nobody makes these stories up just like you didn't make up your happy story. Seems as though AUDI HAS WAY TOO MANY unhappy stories posted for a make trying to get its name up there established with the big boys. You have dissuaded me! I was going to plunk down my $$$ tomorrow and I had already been warned by my European friends to watch out for the Audi 0000 screw job. Seeing these sad anecdotes makes me run. Add to this the disinterested attitude of the Audi sales staff encountered in trying to buy a car through several of their major dealers... I say forget it ! let me check out the latest JD Powers survey and Consumers Union data to determine which car to buy. Tell Audi to do a reality check or their shiny new facilities are going to go under for lack of sales! :shades: