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Otherwise, except for road noise which I am getting used to , I love my 300M. The best value for the money out there. Just hope they have finally made their product more reliable. So far, so good. No defects after 2000 miles.
My '94 produced a lot of road noise. It was a little quieter once I replaced the Goodyears. My 2000 is much quieter, even with the factory Goodyears. But it's still not quite there yet. Chrysler's aware of the problem because they did some re-design of the rear suspension. The 2000 interior noise is 4db less than the 99's.
But.... it's still there, especially on certain surfaces, like concrete.
So. What tires should we be putting on these cars to help eliminate the problem, people? And... let's hope Chrysler's listening, too!
Another problem is the ongoing odor from the A/C system, which was also a technical bulletin issue from Chrysler.
This Chrysler is the first and last I will ever own.
until today and saw some opioions on the 2000
LHS STEREO SYSTEM. I basically saw TWO extremes:
One person who thought is was poor & another who
thought it was excellent. I know this is a very
personal subject based on what someones ears hear
and possibly what they are used to hearing (equipment quality). I've owned quite a bit of new
cars and have ALWAYS purchased the "upgraded"
STEREO....I have NEVER, EVER had a good sounding
factory stereo system...NEVER. They ALWAYS sound
cheap, "tinny"..lack depth. And you pay a fortune
for them...a definite "cash cow" for the mfg. I
did order the 360 watt upgrade thinking that FINALLY the $300.00 (whatever it was) upgrade
would be worth it but like usual...no way!! I cannot even imagine what the base system sounds like. These CHRYSLER Infinity and GM DELCO products are
terrible...they should contract out with BOSE, etc...maybe that will help....but knowing mfg's,
they will have whatever company special make an
inferior product BUT still charge full price.
SORRY....this system is very, very poor sound quality. What you can buy aftermarket (ex: Crutchfield, etc) is FAR superior..FAR. The problem..as ALL is aware of is monkeying around removing factory components....nothing ever goes
back in the same..so, we're stuck. The one thing
(in my experience) you can do is to simply replace some of the speakers (trunk the easiest).
The manufacturers speakers are DEFINITELY the biggest "WEAK LINK" in the system...they are beyond "cheap".
Paul
ears & perception of quality. I guarantee you
(can NEVER prove of course) that these FACTORY
stereo's are not only CHEAP in sound quality but CHEAP in price. I've had cases where I had problems with a stereo...under warrranty...took it
back and they simply put in a new one...not bothering to repair. I also agree with the last
few POSTs on ROAD NOISE. This car does have alot
of road noise. Now someone can argue AGAIN that how good your ears are on this BUT this car has
TIRE NOISE and WIND NOISE.....in my book for a
car of this susposed calipher and the PURE FACT that this is CHRYSLER's FLAGSHIP auto....there should be hardly none! Not being an auto engineer
I hope someone out there with this type of knowledge can explain this WHOLE CONCEPT of auto
interior noise. What does it take to COMPLETELY
isolate niose from the inside cabin??? Thicker
metal, more insulation, what? How can it possibly
cost that much more (hell, I'd pay a grand or more
for a SILENT interior)! I've noticed that a few
of the Japanese imports (not really that much more
in price) are substantially more quiet? Why?
started sticking and the drivers power window motor burned out.
I have found out from the dealer that the window tracks and the rubber at the top of the windows need cleaning and lubrication.
The dealer said silicone for lubrication.
The damp moisture gets in the tracks and the
rubber causing the windows to stick like glue
in the heat of a hot day.
Note! This car has never been in a garage, it is in the weather all the time and this might
make a difference to other people.
I talked to several Chrysler dealers and they
have been replacing power window motors a lot lately because of this problem.
To all that read this, take a little time for
cleaning and maintenance it helps in the long run.
There is a TSB out on this that the dealer can find if he bothers to look in his computer. It was probably issued in late 98 or early 99.
fastdriver
sounds MUCH better than my 98 BUICK PARK AVE ULTRA
FACTORY STEREO (yes upgraded model!!). It was
truely LOUSY and embasassing!!! There were sounds
that I could hear on my daughters 150.00 home
stereo that I could NOT hear on it....poorest I've
ever heard....but I did only pay $35K for the ULTRA!
how some autos have less road noise & tire noise than others (see the last few postings). Think about some of the autos in the 70's/80's...top line models...they were real quiet...why? I gotta
believe its all that lousy, "thin" plastics used
today. EX: wheel well shields now plastic vs metal
before, etc. Add more insulation? Where?
There is a TSB on this. Go to http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov Click on problems and issues under the red car and then click on TSB. Put in the appropriate info and you'll find a "summary" of the TSB. Print it out and take it to your dealer who can put the TSB number in their computer, if they know HOW to use it, and the full TSB will be there.
fastdriver
I THINK the "growling noise" you hear is coming from the Chrysler stockholders! LOL........ Just kidding.
fastdriver
Any help on finding the JGC complaints will be most appreciated. We have a vested interest in that site as well as our son has one.
Thanks much.
The Jeep topics are in SUV under topic # 2153 and #2381. Good luck! You'll love the Avalon! Have you seen or driven the Solara? That's nice too if you don't need 4-doors! I think that's going to be my next car. NO MORE CHRYSLER products for me as long as I live no matter WHAT they look like!
fastdriver
Try this site- http://www.autoinvoice.com/
I believe that others have purchased extended warranties here for a LOT less than their own dealer or Chrysler direct.
fastdriver
Bob
Thanks. It's no secret. When you own a car like mine, you HAVE to be well-informed BEFORE going to the dealer so that they don't make an [non-permissible content removed] out of you with their ridiculous statements i.e. they all do that, it's a characteristic of the car, you're the first to complain about this etc. etc. etc.!!!!
With the internet, the WORLD is at your fingertips. Using the right search engines and having some patience, you can find anything you want. I do! I then bookmark them in Netscape or IE and place like topics into a folder for better organization.
I then use this info to help ME and to maybe alleviate other people's stress by sharing what I know or have on hand in these topics.
Like I said, all it takes is patience. Now that I just got my DSL hooked up on Monday, I can find this information even FASTER!! LOL.........
fastdriver
Mmmmmm.....Dodge Intrepid? I just went back to my placemarks to see what it was that I helped you with and find that I don't even have Intrepid bookmarked. It must have been this topic or the Concorde topic or the 300M topic that you posted in.
fastdriver
Thanks again to all for listening to my complaints over the past few months. I will probably post one more time to let you all know the final resolution.
Anyway, thanks for your help, and can we expect FASTER responses from you with your DSL service? :-).
One other possibility: in addition to those other LH topics, when someone else has a problem, and you list an answer, I consider you are helping me, altho I may not have been the one who posted.
Thanks. That's what these boards are all about- sharing our trials and tribulations and trying to help others so they don't have to go through the same crap with their "5-STAR" dealers when they have a problem!
And yes- FASTER responses, when I'm home, with the new DSL!! LOL....
BTW- I did respond to you in the Intrepid topic about your AC. Check it out. It MIGHT help! NO guarantees! LOL....
fastdriver
Since you know everything about them you must have a true and honest answer,if not I´m sure you will find out,and will let us all know.
Thank you,and I hope you will have the correct answer.
I will see if I can dig up anything for you and report back here ASAP. However, I'm going to Vegas all next week, so it probably won't be until the week after.
fastdriver
In the mean time I will list you here all the colors for the 2001 model year.
Ice blue,deep saphire,stone white,cinnamon,champagne,black,silver,garnet,shale green.
Thanks.
In the mean time I will list you here all the colors for the 2001 model year.
Ice blue,deep saphire,stone white,cinnamon,champagne,black,silver,garnet,shale green.
It's driving me nuts, everytime I pull into my driveway, over the curb it sounds really bad.
Dealer said park it in the street!! Does anyone have any ideas?
I sent a package of information to Michigan via certified mail and received a very prompt reply. The same day, I sent the very same package of information to the president of Landmark Chrysler, Sean Grant, and as of today have not even received my green card back acknowledging they have accepted delivery of my certified letter.
I told the person in Michigan that I didn't believe this local dealership to be a 5 Star service center and asked how they determine that. He said it is based on the number of customer complaints they receive. No complaints equals a 5 Star service center. So folks, if you don't let your problems be known by DC in Michigan, then they have no alternative but to give all dealerships a 5 Star rating. Seems a bit screwy to me but since they are cutting the check to me, I didn' dispute their word. The rep I talked to is going to forward my complaint of my local dealership to the proper department in Michigan and also with a note that I have heard nothing from them regarding my certified letter.
So for all who are reading this, think twice before you do business with LANDMARK CHRYSLER IN SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS. Bob Ridings Chrysler in Taylorville, Illinois (just 20 minutes away) has a far superior reputation and it would be well worth the drive to get much better service. Unfortunately, we kept doing business in Springfield thinking the service would turn around and it never did. And to Sean Grant, if you think ignoring us will keep this thing under the carpet, then you have obviously underestimated the power of the internet.