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PLEASE i'd like some feedback from anyone that has a '99 or 2000 Concorde. Thanks in advance.
I love the way my car drives I live in the country and drive back roads and it handles like
a car on rails I scare my husband to death when
hes with me. I have had mine back 3 times about air and road noise.Wed. 12,2000 they put different
door seals on it and guess what no better. It is
a shame that a car that nice can't be any quieter.
I love my car but I'm not 100% happy with it.
I would really compare and shop around before
buying a Concorde. The air and road noise is really awfull. Mine sounds like the front windows are cracked. Remember this is just my input.Good luck and let me know what you end up buying
I am in the number dealing part of buying, and am intersted in what others have paid for there 2000 Concordes.
I love the room this car has to offer, the smooth ride, and even the gas mileage it gets.(I also drive a 97 Ford F 250)
Good Luck, let me know what you decide.
However, it MUST be a pretty crummy car, according to what I've read here. The road/wind/engine noise that invaded the passenger cabin was outrageous! Especially for a $140,000 car! When you pay that kind of money, you would expect the car to at least be as quiet as one of those squishy Japanese sedans, wouldn't you? My 1998 Concorde LXi is as quiet as a tomb by comparison. Why doesn't "road/wind noise" come up in reviews of cars like Ferraris and Porsches? Why do people lust after those cars when they are SO NOISY???
;-)
I've also wondered why my Chrysler dealer did not provide me with the ear-plugs on my test drives as apparently so many other people were given on their test drives. How else do you account for people "discovering" a noise "problem" AFTER they bought their Concordes??? My dealer must have been out of ear-plugs on the days that I test drove the Concorde.
(Tongue being removed from cheek...)
I'm enjoying the heck out of our Concorde. I hope that y'all enjoy yours as well!
Happy motoring.
Tom Lancaster
sitting in the back seat asking how come we have to come and all the fussing between them I wouldn't need ear plugs to test drive the
Concorde. You may think I'm just want to keep
on about air noise but I just want them to fix it.
You didn't read my fist post.... The air noise
was not bad untill around 3000 miles and than
it started and now awfull. Be glad that you drove
is quiet. To the person who wrote the post about
soundproofing just what does that include.
I may have missed your original post, but I notice that you recently advised a potential buyer to "shop around" because "the air and road noise is really awful". I'm sorry if you are having trouble with YOUR Concorde. I just want to make sure that the people realize that the exceptional trouble that you are having is NOT universal. Your comment about the noise sounding as though your front windows are cracked might be a clue. Do your front windows close entirely? When I open the windows a crack on our Concorde, the jump in wind noise volume is tremendous. Just a thought.
Happy motoring.
Tom Lancaster
that the air noise is not a problem in that car.
I am making another appointment with the dealership. They changed the rubber seals around the windows and it made it worst. If nothing else
I may drive another new Concorde and compare
it to mine. Don't get me wrong I love my car and how it handles. I live in the country and drive
alot of back roads and like I said early it drives
like a car on rails, the room wonderful, and the
looks I hear all the time how they love my car.
I really think that there is a problem somewhere, because i don't like having to drive 35 miles to one dealership and 40 to the other plus take off work, there not open any on Sat.
This is the nicest car I have owned so far, and I have owned a lot. I will keep up with the post and let you know how it goes.
Within two weeks, the horn was replaced because it shorted out. The window motors for the driver's side and the driver's side rear have been replaced a combined total of four times. Shortly thereafter, the transmission sensor went out so the car would not shift as expected which meant another trip to the dealer's service department. The rack and pinion was replaced at 40,000 miles. Also, engine mount shims were added due to a technical service bulletin( Chrysler TSB# 021699-Dec'99) referencing steering problems even though the car was within front-end alignment tolerance. The dealer never told me about the bulletin, but I researched it myself with the help of my local Firestone Service Center. I also had to have the windshield washer nozzles repaired. The car is noisy inside and it has no power from a dead stop since the 3.2 liter engine on the '98 has less torque than the 3.5 liter engine on '97 Concordes. If you still feel enamored of the Concorde's stylish appearance, go ahead and make the same mistake I made when I purchased my first and last Chrysler. I had no idea I would spend as much time and effort in scheduling repetitive vehicle repairs at the dealership for new cars which should have been free of major mechanical problems. Prior to the purchase of the '97 Concorde, I had been a lifelong Ford/Mercury customer. With the hell I have endured because of these two lemons and the shoddy customer service received from Chrysler dealerships/service departments, I will never again make the mistake of buying Chrysler products!!!
I have posted many times in here....some negative and some possitive and with most of my posts someone will either accuse me of being either a Chrysler lover or hater...but none of that nonsense really matters to me as I just tell it the way it is based on my driving expierence.
This post is strictly based on the mechanical aspects of my 99 Concorde.
Well like I said in 27,000 driving miles I have not had one problem mechanically with my Concorde.
I have not had it in for any service related repair on the drive train to date......If I had to rate my Concorde based on the drive train or reliabillity of the car I would have to say that I would give it a very high rating.
I know there are many new readers in here thinking about buying a new Concorde and looking for advise from current owners...without really going into detail the best honest answer I would give is.....The Concorde is a gorgeous car both on the outside as well as the inside...handles great...reasonably economical...very roomy except for the passenger leg room...priced very fairly...fun to drive but on the down side it is very noisy riding car.
Even though I have been very satisfied mechanically with my car many others have not been so lucky....so my advice would be...buy the extended warranty and if you don't mind a car that picks up road noise I think you will be very happy overall with your Concorde....
Mimi
My husband swore that he would NEVER own a Daimler-Chrysler product until we came upon the Concorde and it was so much car for the money and with the 0.9% financing, how could you go wrong?
Can I just tell you that this car has stolen my husband's heart! He is in love. And as for the road noise, I have since bought a used (1993) Jeep Wrangler with a soft top and let me just say that if any of you complain about road noise or wind noise, drive a Wrangler. Wow. But I absolutly love the Jeep for driving around town and goofing off in but the Concorde is THE CAR!!
Who would have thought that a 100% pure Chevy family would now be almost all Daimler-Chrysler!
LOL!! ( We still own a Chevy pick-up ) Anyways, just thought I would share my 2 cents with you.
Happy driving and keep the stereo up to eliminate the noise...Ha!
Kari in PA
So we really must compare liters with torque with RPM, with the RPM reaaly the most important factor of all, since who needs a car with all of its torque available at 100 mph?
Agree?
Since I've owned both a '97 Concorde LX and a '98 Concorde LXi, I can tell you from experience that from a dead stop, the 3.5L 24-valve Concorde LX was far and away a more powerful engine than the 3.2L 24-valve LXi. I am neither an engineer, mathematician nor physicist so I won't speculate about the torque, rpms or foot pounds/pounds feet.
My understanding is that as of 1998, the 3.5L 24-valve engine which was in the '97 Concorde is now on the LHS and the 300M. The Concordes now have the weaker 2.7L and 3.2L engines. My experience with the 3.2L engine has been of a significantly weaker engine from a dead stop; especially if you do not have lengthy on-ramps thereby turning your highway merges into adrenaline-inducing experiences. Performance aside, Chrysler's consistently inconsistent reliability due to inferior parts and poor quality control in their manufacturing process should give prospective buyers pause. In addition to the mechanical problems, Chrysler vehicles have a greater likelihood of having suffered raildust damage to their paint since they are transported via rail. Those paint imperfections may not become apparent to the customer until they've had the car for awhile (especially visible on white and light-colored cars). I only posted the major mechanical problems I experienced with both models.
While no reasonable person should expect a utopian experience when purchasing a new car, how post-purchase contingencies/problems are handled by a dealership/manufacturer speaks volumes about their regard for the customer, their professionalism, reputation and any interest in repeat business. Based on my experience, I will NEVER buy Chrysler again.
A former Chrysler victim in Conroe, Texas
to compare, the 3.2l has 225 horses and 225 lbs-ft of torque. the 3.5l that was availabe in the intrepid/concorde thru 1997 was rated at 214 horses and 221 lbs-ft of torque. the 3.5l in the 98 and newer 300m and lhs cars has over 250 horses and over 250 lbs-ft of torque. the 3.5l in the 98 and newer lh cars was changed significantly from its 1997 cousin. you can read all about it at www.allpar.com if you wish.
btw, what does "raildust" do to a car's paint? i've never heard of such a thing.
As for the 3.2L v. 3.5L, I may indeed have a poor performing '98 LXi, but soon enough I'll be rid of the Chrysler headache since I'm shopping for its replacement.
Congratulations to those who have owned Chrysler products without the nightmares some of us have endured.
Conoe, Texas
It suddenly goes haywire and hot air comes out, full force, from the defroster -any idea what the problem could be?
My son is trying to sell his 97 escort 4 door,with all the goodies,and nobody wants it!!!!!!
Not even those Ford dealers,the car has 32000 miles and runs good,no dents,real nice but no luck.
No fords for him anymore.
http://www.alldata.com/pro/TSB/12/981217EA.html
16. 23-52-98 OCT 98 Road Noise
it quite clean and shiny ....
But ..I noticed that it is very dusty under the
hood.
Have any of you tried keeping the under-the-hood
area clean on your cars ..?
How do you do it ..?
Try clicking on this link to look for paint problems with Chrysler-
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~gluckman/Chrysler/
Hope you find something here to help you.
fastdriver
As for the rattle you had mentioned I also have one coming from my shifter console(sounds like 2 styrofoam cups rubbing together and is quite annoying and my dealer has tried many times to eliminate the rattle with no success ...they even changed the console and that did correct the problem for a few weeks and then the rattle came back...but at least the Chrysler dealer did take my complaint serious enough and made several attemps to correct the problem...as we all know rattles can be very diffulcult to find and correct in any car.
as for road noise, my y2k is much improved over my 98. still not class leading but definetely tolerable now.
Thanks for your response...have a great day..
about the air noise in my 99 Concorde when they changed the seals around the doors last time it made it worst. The man I talked to said that there have been about 8, 99 Concordes brought
back and come to find out the windows was not closeing as far as it should have. He said there
may end up being a recall on them because of some
people haveing the trouble I have had. I am going
the 6-6-00 to leave it.This is #4 on this problem
maybe its my lucky no. We just returned from our vacation and put 1,150 miles on my car. I don"t
think there could be another better riding, driving, or handleing car on the road for the same amount of money. I love my car and have decided to not get a SUV if anything maybe a LXI
with a moon roof. I now have 8,400 miles on my car.
I realy have had no other noise problems that are significant. No wind noise at all and a little road noise. Lots better than some Ford products I have had in the past.
In general I love my Concorde - no mechanical problems after 14K miles (but I did get the extd. warranty). Once had the problem with the dash lights (at least) going haywire: blinking back and forth rapidly between dim-bright settings. I think this problem is caused by condensation on the A/C duct JUST ABOVE the light switch on the dash. A single drop of water could then short-out the switch causing all kinds of weird behaviour. This one instance occurred on a VERY HUMID summer night with a car full of hot and humid passengers - so lots of moisture available to condense on the cold air ducts. I may try to pull the switch and wrap it with something to prevent the problem from happening again.
As for road noise, my previous two cars were Subarus and you generally had to raise your voice to be heard. It is so nice that everyone can now speak in a normal voice (even to deaf grandma!) in the LXi. There is occasional noise from some road surfaces - mainly from the tyres. Maybe I'll look into the wheelwell sound-proofing available on the later models to see if the '99 can be upgraded.
Also recently finished the vehicle with Zaino (Z1, Z2 & Z6). This product is GREAT!! Everything that has been claimed about it other forums here is true or better. The car looks better than it ever has, even brand new - HIGHLY RECOMMEND!!
This is in reference to the dashlight flicker you mentioned in post #323.
I have a similar issue with my dash lights and the dealer has not been able to figure out the cause.
I have mentioned my issue in detail in post nos 229 and 231.
Another concorde owner has mentioned a similar problem in 298 / 299.
I am not sure if condensation is the issue.
In my case ..this happens in all kinds of weather.
But keep us posted if you find anything ..
Mimi919 ..
I also used to hear an occasional rattle from the dashboard when driving on very rough surfaces.
I noticed that .. (lemme try to explain this ...)after I leave the ashtray in the 'closed' but not 'tightly closed' position .. I do not hear the rattle anymore.
Now, not only will you have a beautiful, roomy, well-handling car, but one that is (relatively) quiet as well!
Happy motoring!
Tom
To solve the flicker, I turned the switch down just slightly. The dash lights are still at full bright, but the switch is not quite at the full up position. Easy fix.
Dave