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My best long round trip (1360 miles) mileage was 29.2 MPG compared to 28.2 MPG for my 2002 Chrysler T&C LX on same 1360 mile round trip 2 years earlier.
Maximum POSSIBLE round trip gas mileage with my 06 Sienna when driven at 55 MPH with moderate temperature, NO air conditioning used, no winds, etc. was 36.0 MPG.
Current tank is better than the last one, about 25mpg so far.
Yes, you read correctly. The gas mileage was LESS than 11 MPG on last tank.
Mine has dropped with the extreme cold, too, but I'm still above 21 mpg right now.
Are you taking shorter trips as well? Or idling it to warm it up?
What is your top / cruise speed while drive?
How much of city vs highway driving represents the type of mileage your are getting?
In the summer, we have a weekend getaway/beach condo, so we make lots of long trips, 3 hours each way. I consistently get better than 27mpg, usually 28 to 30 or so.
Now it's cold and the place it closed up, so it's all around town driving, mostly short trips. We try to combine errands but most of the kids' activities are only a few miles away, so the engine barely warms up before we arrive. I'd say most trips are less than 5 miles, with a few longer drives mixed in.
In town, on short trips, I've seen as low as 19mpg. A longer drive will increase the average mpg back up in the 20s, though, pretty quickly.
I do not tend to go too fast - usually 65 in 55 zones, 70-75 in a 65mph zone, but there aren't many 65 mph zones here in MD. I'm probably going a bit slower than average traffic, though.
What I've found is that the Sienna shifts to 5th gear at right about 45mph, and that's about where it gets the best mileage. RPMs are way low, about 1400rpm or so, just above idle. It can maintain speed on level ground, but on a hill it will have to upshift.
55mph is easier because it rarely shifts down. High 20s or even 30+mpg.
At 65mph it almost never needs 4th gear, but mileage isn't as good - high 20s.
I haven't cruised at much higher speeds for any extended period, this is a family car after all, not a top speed racer.
I am confident the gas mileage will jump back up to 27-28 MPG on long trips.
fill. reset the trip odometer. drive. stop for gas and refill, and divide trip odometer miles indicated by gallons filled.
fill. reset trip odometer. do it again
That is how I do it. I do not use or trust the overhead computer. I find it will give me way different readings if I set it before I get on the freeway than what it says if I set it after I get on the freeway. Setting it after I get on, it has shown it getting anywhere from 30-35 mpg. If I set it before getting on, it will show 19-23mpg. I get a true reading by doing it your way and it's never been over 25mpg.
Dodge GC 3.8
I measure both, trip MPG from the computer, and miles traveled/gallons consumed. My trip computer is a tenth of an MPG.
The trip computer (if reset when refueled) is measuring the OVERALL average mileage to include warm up, stop and go, and highway mileage.
When I go on a long trip, I refuel the vehicle the night before the trip and reset the trip computer when the vehicle is filled. I then check the trip computer average mileage when I refill the tank AFTER the trip is completed. Thus, there is some warm up and stop and go included in my computation for highway mileage. The 2006 Sienna LE trip computer reads 2 to 3 % higher than actual mileage when the 1380 miles is divided by the total fuel placed into the vehicle during and at the end of the trip. The 2002 T&C LX trip computer computed average mileage was less than 1 % higher than actual. :shades:
Boxwrench
Austin to DFW I did the speed limit (+5mph max)...got 27.2 mpg there...but only 22.6mpg back. I've never achieved anything over 25mpg before this (just got new tires so not sure if this was a factor)
The way back I drove a little faster (tired...kids cranky...etc)...but the mileage was already lower before I decided to burn a little more in order to preserve my sanity.
I don't think I fueled up with 10% Ethanol on the way there...I'll have to check that station...although I don't think it would make that dramatic of a difference.
We hit a lot of traffic coming back but we still brought the average back up over 27 again.
What I like is that the tank holds 21 gallons so I can go about 4-500 miles between fill-ups. That helps a lot, especially when gas prices keep rising.
Now I not only used the over head computer, I also used a hand calculator. The overhead computer was much closer than I thought it was.
I'm very happy to see what I got. Most manufactures inflate the mileage the vehicle gets. It's nice to see that I was able to get at least 4 mpg over that. The 3.8 ran very well. My Brother said he hasn't got that much on his 3.3 minivan.
I don't think they have any say in the mileage testing or release of the estimates...it's the EPA (gov't) that does the testing (which revised their tests for 2008).
Your 2005 GC (3.8) has been re-rated at 2008 specs at 16/23...so you did pretty good
I don't think they have any say in the mileage testing or release of the estimates...it's the EPA (gov't) that does the testing (which revised their tests for 2008).
Your absolutely correct on that. My mistake. I knew better.
Highway driving at 55mph will usually yield greater than 27mpg.
We travel a lot and often will have loads of 500...800 pounds in either luggage or people plus my wife and I.
Jim
Got 26.6 mpg coming back.
Must have been an westward wind both times.
Speeds were 55-70 mph both times, A/C cranked, 4 people plus a dog and light luggage.
Good for you.
Where did you rent the Sienna? I saw some available in Florida but they ran $600 a week while other vans were half as much.
I'm just glad it doesn't cost double to purchase one!
Tuesday means Mazda chat night! The chat opens at 8:45 pm ET and runs until 10 pm ET. I hope you're able to join us tonight to meet and greet with your fellow CarSpace members!
See you there!
I had no such luck in Florida, back in October.
We ended up renting an Accord.
What a sweetheart this van has been.
Still going...she's doing quite well mechanically, but has collected a few bruises. The roof liner is shot.
I decided early on never to bring this van to a dealer for service or recalls or anything as I had the feeling that they'd wreck it. It looks like it didn't hurt anyway!
headroom
comfortable driving
great view
should last for another 22.5 years according to Mercedes' average lifetime figure
The only way your going to average 29 mpg, especially with 6 people + luggage is coasting downhill going 55 MPH.
http://minivans.about.com/od/toyotaminivans/fr/jj_07sienna-le.htm
1st tank - 375 miles, 22.7 MPG, 50% highway, 50% city
2nd tank - 261 miles, 19.8 MPG, 30% highway, 70% city
3rd tank - 357 miles, 19.8 MPG, 30% highway, 70% city
4th tank - 472 miles, 32.1 MPG, All highway - 60-65 MPH average
5th tank - 501 miles, 27.9 MPG, All highway mountain driving - 55 MPH average
6th tank - 535 miles, 28.5 MPG, All highway - 70 MPH average
The 32 MPG tank was achieved with three people and 400 lbs of cargo. 30+MPG is very doable if you keep your speed down and drive with a light foot.
Got an even better 27+ coming back, though that was all highway.
Average speed were probably 65-75, and keeping those down helps a lot.
I can break 30 if I stay under 55mph. Not easy around here, people tailgate you.
We set the Sienna Cruise between 72 and 77 MPH on these trips except for 55 MPH through the Virgin River Gorge.
People still tailgate when I drive at or above the speed limits in all 4 states but I am always in the right lane except when passing trucks on the long uphill stretches. :shades:
BTW- trip computers on most vehicles read high mpg. With recent spike in gas prices this was active topic of discussion at various Holiday parties. ALL claimed their vehicles' computers OVERstated actual mpg in real-world driving (inc. GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Chrysler Hyundai, Nissan).
New model with bigger, more powerful 4L engine may do a bit better according to EPA, and at least 1 car rag
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0812_2008_chrysler_town_and_coun- try_update_2/index.html