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You never see the battery, the price premium is about $3000 I paid $27,000 for a fully loaded one...every option, GPS, Pass key, VSC, Premium sound, Through the dash 6CD changer, I was very aggressive in going after one and had it fresh off the boat in less then 30 days. The GPS is better then the one in my 01 lexus...
It starts with the electric motor...totally automatically shuts off the engine at stop lights and instantly goes when you push the accelator...JUST LIKE A GOLF CART....plenty of power to cruse at 70-80...ours has less then 5000 miles and is avg. right at 50mpg in mixed driving...am told it will get even better as the car breaks in. ...I do like my LS much better but my wife loves the Preis ....
I hope she does because if there is anyone that deserves to make it in spite of not winning it is her. I think Bo will likely get some type of deal for him and his band. I don't see him making it alone. In 2003 you didn't know whether or not Ruben or Clay won the way the trumped Clay up at every moment, even calling him the American Idol when he appeared in places. It was really disgusting to me. He didn't win.
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I think that already happened. My wife's view was that putting the hat on her in one of his performances was a thank-you.
The replacement cost from Lexus is $126 + 45 minutes of labor (@ $90/hr). I think I'll probably put it back in myself and save myself the labor cost.
I was thinking how easy is it for the parts on these high-end cars to be pilfered ? Are they that easy to pry off ? I looked at the hole and the connector left behind, and there was not even a scratch showing an attempt to steal it. It must have just come off real easy. Bummer !
I heard a Denny Clements speech once where he boasted that Lexus dealers are the most profitable in the US. Good for them, bad for us.
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I have contacts in the music industry. I'll try to find out if Vonzell lands (or already landed) a record contract.
So...
Let's get back to the cars now folks!
http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_release.html?id=20050601
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=wardsauto.story&STORY=/www/story/06-01-2- 005/0003769650&EDATE=WED+Jun+01+2005,+03:53+PM
Did you fix your turn signal? This incident made me think back to the old hand signal days. I actually had somebody signal me that way this weekend. But you're over 3,000 miles away and the car was no LS.
Not yet. Just too busy to get to the dealership this week, and I am off to Japan and Korea this weekend. It will have to wait till after my Asia trip. Recall I mentioned a trip to Japan this June, where I plan to snoop around for as much info on the 2007 LS as much as possible. If I hear anything newer than what we already know, you betcha I'll be passing them along.
BTW, what is *the old hand signal* ? Maybe I am too young to recall this ???
Drivers left hand/arm straight out meant left turn. If it was flexed upward instead it meant right turn. It was before my time - predominantly a 50's and 60's thing. Some motorcycists still use the hand signals and giuys in old cars that you sometimes see on a saturday also do.
Oh, I get the (one finger) signal a few times a week.
That simply means that the 7-Series buyer has either ignored and/or grown to like what you think is terrible styling. Kinda the same thing I think Lexus buyers have been doing for years and years. Accepting awful styling because of the cars many other positive attributes.
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Did you fail to notice that next to the 10.0 rating it says it is based on only ONE rating??
Yeah I think someone pointed that out about 5 posts back, and? It means that one person did exactly what I stated. They either don't think the BMW's styling is ugly and/or they've overlooked it because of the car's other positive attributes.
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Seriously though I drove the GS300 again this past Saturday, killing time while a friend closed a deal on a ES330. I was more impressed with it this time around, must have been the handling advantage of the "G-Spider" wheels and tire upgrade this one had. I still can't even begin to like the look though. The giant hatchback look and too much wheelbase make this a very ill-porportioned car to my eye. I hope they don't think this is the way to go with the next LS. Now the IS appears to be a different story, can't wait to see it in person.
Overall the GS is a curious piece. They seemed to have targeted the 5-Series in sporty appeal, but stuck to their traditional roots in interior design. The seating position relative to the dashboard is pure E-Class. The huge center console is anything but sporty, and looks like it belongs in a LS. The whole car does have that cockpit feel that I like, its snug but not confining to me. Really like that. The back seat is tight, but the real problem I think for most is the fact you have to duck to avoid that low slung roof, because once inside I didn't have a problem with the actual room available. Finally the leather seemed really gritty to me, not the smooth stuff you all rave about so much?
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Why is it so hard to agree to disagree here without adding in sarcasm and derision? If all of you didn't see things through different lenses and come to different conclusions you'd all be the same person.
That's pretty scary! Isn't it? :P
Can't you folks just accept that you have different preferences for whatever reason and just enjoy these cars for what they can and do offer us?
It's really okay to either not comment when you totally disagree with someone or if you must, just say "well, I see it differently" and proceed with your own thoughts. You don't HAVE to be snide about it.
Hehehe, that's funny...
Got a question or two for you: What happens when you see the new Bimmer 6 & 7-series, the Pontiac Aztek, the Buick Rendevouz, or Infiniti QX56 ?? Are you loving these designs ??? Now compare any of these to the LS400 styling....Which one is more timeless and graceful ?
Yeah I see your point, the Aztek is just plain ugly as is the 7-Series. I differ on the 6-Series though. None of these designs are lovable either so I agree with you there. Problem is that if you have to mention such cars to make a case for the LS400 that means the LS400 is stylistically challenged. I consider the 1995-2000 LS400 to be the ultimate in forgettable blandness and the worst looking of the three LS designs so far. For me to see a car as timeless it has to look good in the first place like a Jaguar XJ or Mercedes CL you know something that has some real "design" to it. That particular LS400 was no different in design from a Toyota and it looked like a logical extension of one.
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I don't count automotive journalists opinions either.
The "people" make that choice. Case in point, many people felt the old 3 and 5 series were too bland and not "classic" material at all.
Does it really matter what the media thinks, or what you or I think individually? I say no.
What kind of "friend" are you, letting a buddy buy a Lexus instead of MB?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/05/automobiles/05AUTO.html
Sorry, but I'd have to seriously doubt that. The current 7-Series will be remembered, but not as a "classic" imo. If the styling was truly good looking there would be no need for buyers to defend it so much, it would speak for itself. It kinda goes back to that theory I mentioned a few posts ago. I think a lot of BMW loyalist have simply convinced themselves the 7-Series is a good looking car because I don't see how anyone could have been taken with it at first glance. The 7 does have a huge road presence in that BMW aggressive way, but it just isn't a good looking car to my eye. This from a person who loved BMW's styling with very few exceptions up until the last few years.
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A good one. I should have gave more detail I guess. A friend of mine, his mother bought a ES330. She's been buying ES' since 1992.
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That is something we can say about many cars out there today. Style, of course, is in the eye of the beholder. The E and S-class styles are easy on the eye, and not that polarizing. OTOH, the Bimmer is very polarizing and not that easy on the eye. The LS is quite easy on the eye, may not be the most stylistic one of the lux class, but a pleasant-looking car all the same. I'll wager that the next LS will look a whole lot better than the next S-class.
When I look at the new A8, all I see is the grille.... That's not good since the car has so many distinguishing things, especially the interior, but that grill is something else. Not very endearing, imo... Last, but by no means the least is the Jag which is a nice looking, pleasant car in that old British way. I saw the new XK at an auto show earlier this year and it was a beauty if they ever build it *as is*.
Well if that happens it will be a first. We'll see.
Nothing wrong with a pleasant looking car, but in this class I'd like a little more than that, some actual style would be nice. Sure a whole lot of cars that aren't relevant to this board aren't stunners, but to my eye there are plenty of good looking cars out there. So I'm not sure I buy that in as much as it being an excuse. Here though there are only two that don't make the style/design cut, of course as you say all in the eye of the beholder or IMO.
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Like I wrote in the Futures Board (see below), the scoop pic/sketch of the 2007LS 600h is sweet. Much much better looking than even the current S-class, IMO.
oac, "2007 Lexus LS" #232, 7 Jun 2005 7:34 am
Well if that happens it will be a first. We'll see...
You may not have too long to eat your words.....
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Why is it a surprise that the Avalon won? Without having to look at it, the stats themselves add up to a winner in the family sedan category.
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BUT, can you imagine a 5AT V6 280HP family sedan from Toyota, an Avalon no less, doing a flat 6s 0-60mph ? That is simply outstanding ! Which leads me to think that the smaller, hopefully lighter IS350/6AT with 30 more ponies, and an extra cog on the tranny, should do close to 5s 0-60 flat ? I'd surely hope so, otherwise Lexus is playing some voodoo with this 2GR engine, or with the steel on the IS350.... or both...
Why do our wives prefer their spouse's car rather than theirs ???? I mean, she had two other cars besides mine, but she'd rather drive my LS. I am bummed... Two years ago or so, she rammed the door of our little Matrix against the post in the garage. Cost the insurance $2000 to fix ($500 deductible lighter in my pocket). If this continues, I don't see how I'll ever buy another LS cos I have no chance to ever drive it...
What string of bad luck for my LS since Memorial day !!
So yes 6 seconds is great, but not something I would want to try with mine. But it's good for a measure to see how it could do getting the heck beat out of it.
edit - just saw your other post, sorry to read about the mishap. Hopefully only the sheetmetal was damaged.
The Avalon is a automatic. You can't exactly dump a clutch on a automatic.
The Avalon was brake torqued, which is no where near as stressful on a car.
full article
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200506100224.html