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Thanks Ed ,o i nearly forgot mine is in a 95 odyssey
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My Garmin GPS that I use on my motorcycle is FAR superior to the Honda system and we depend on it instead of the built-in NAV system on the Odyssey. Buying this system is like flushing your $$$ down the drain. Forget the Honda system and purchase a Garmin or other GPS system; save money and eliminate the frustration.
Honda is less responsive to customers than GM was a few years ago. This is my second -- and last -- Honda because of piss-poor customer relations and inferior equipment like navigation systems.
Do NOT buy a new disc. It won't do any good. Buy an aftermarket system and drive with confidence and assurance.
A recent survey asked what did I like best about the Honda Nav system? My response was that it has a nice shelf area in front of it on which my TomTom rests!
I just ended a 36 month lease on a 2007 Honda Odyssey Ex-L - no RES
or Nav. I was able to negotiate a fair deal on a new lease for a 2010
EX-L with RES & Nav., so I pulled the trigger. I was on the fence about
the Nav., especially after reading several of the comments posted here.
In fact, I was getting so nervous I was about to bail on the deal, but
at the last second I didn't and I've been living with the Nav. ever
since. So, in the interest of fairness, and for the benefit of those who
might be looking for a slightly less biased review of the Nav system in
these vehicles, I have elected to provide the following information.
Caveat: Hopefully someone will find this useful. If you do not find it
useful, or if you vehemently disagree - terrific, but I don't want to
hear about it. I have lots of things on my high priority list these
days, and responding to flames doesn't even make it into the top 500.
Sorry.
Background: My wife is the primary driver of this vehicle. To say she is
not technically inclined would be an understatement. Add to this three
children under the age of five to corral and manage, and she does not
have time to assemble, mount, or otherwise mess with anything in the car
beyond buckling seat belts and getting the key in the ignition. We are
also moving to an unfamiliar town in a new state in the near future. For
these reasons my wife expressed an interest in the navigation option,
and we elected to go for it. I consider myself to be highly technically inclined and I have extensive experience with a wide range of vehicular and personal navigation systems, including assorted
Garmins, TomToms, Magellans, Navigons, and others. By no means am I an industry expert, but I do believe that I am more qualified than most to comment on the general adequacy of navigation systems.
Overview: When I think of vehicular GPS navigation systems, I basically
evaluate them in three fields:
1) Is it intuitive?
2) Can it get me where I need to go?
3) Bells and whistles.
In field one, I'm evaluating how easy it is for myself, or better yet
my wife, to effectively use the darned thing. Can I enter an address
without losing my mind? Can I figure out how to access and use important
functions like POI icons? In the second field, I want to know a) whether
or not this system can get me where I need to go, and b) does it get me
where I need to go in a reasonably sound fashion? Finally, in field
three, I only care about the bells and whistles if they are particularly
important or engaging, or if they negatively impact the performance of
or my interface with the system. Bearing this in mind...
1) Is it intuitive? Short answer: yes. At least it is intuitive enough
for my wife or me to turn the car on and immediately enter an address
without pressing too many incorrect buttons first. As with most
technological tools on many Honda models, the Nav. system presents a
plethora of buttons with which to bewilder users. After just a few days,
however, my wife and I both learned how to operate this system with a
minimum of stress. Some user awareness issues are key (for instance,
knowing that you must omit any street modifiers like direction or type
of road, even if this information is generally considered integral to
the address), but so far I have not run into any instances where I could
not enter or retrieve the information I was looking for. The touch
screen can be a little off sometimes, but I have pretty large fingers
and I have found this to be the case with almost any GPS I have used.
One aspect of this GPS that I have come to particularly appreciate is
the presence of many of the hard keys surrounding the screen. Initially
I felt them redundant (couldn't they have just built those functions
into the touch screen menus?), but I have since learned the benefits of
the permanent presence of "cancel," "map," and "audio" keys. The
bottom line is that while this interface is far from perfect, and even
far from the pretty decent but imperfect interfaces available on many
portable models, it gets the job done effectively.
2) Can it get me where I need to go? Short answer: Yes. This seems to be
the place where most friction occurs when discussing this system. I am
using the 2010 version of the software (sorry, didn't check the specific
version number before writing this) and maps, but based on what I had
read elsewhere, I was prepared for this system to be unable to locate my
house and neighborhood which have now existed for 17 years. To my
chagrin, when I initially entered my home address, the system came up
with a blank. Once I realized that it wasn't recognizing my street
because I was trying to type it in with a modifier (South XXX, rather
than simply XXX), it was able to find my street and the problem was
solved. We can argue for ages about whether it is appropriate or not for
a mapping system to ignore street information like this. In my case, the
"south" is not a directional modifier, but is actually a part of the
street name, so I certainly feel that I should be able to find my street
by starting with the letter S. Regardless of how we feel about it,
though, this is just the way it is. If you can accept it and move on,
then the system works fine and I find that typing in my street name
starting with the second word is a small price to pay for integrated
navigation. As far as directions and recognition of roads is concerned,
I have found the system to be completely adequate. I currently live in
New Jersey, and this system has not yet failed to recognize any address
I throw at it. I've also entered addresses at far flung corners of the
U.S. where I have lived in the past or where friends and relatives
currently live, and have encountered no problems thus far. As with any
navigation system, I sometimes find the directions counter-intuitive,
especially when I know (or think I know) a better way to get to a
destination, but generally navigation performance appears to be on par
with other, stand-alone GPS systems. Where I think this system actually
shines, however, is in satellite acquisition and route calculation time.
I haven't run any scientific experiments, but based on anecdotal
evidence I have never seen a GPS system lock onto satellites so fast
or calculate a route as rapidly as this one does. The bottom line is
that so far this system has gotten us where we need to go with a minimum
of bone-headed moves.
COMMENTS CONTINUE IN FOLLOWING POST
3) Bells and whistles. This section is a little odd with regard to the
factory Nav. because I can't decide whether to include things like the
bluetooth cellular function and rear-view camera, which are only
available with the navigation option. Suffice it to say that both are
worth the investment. I have found the bluetooth hands free option to be highly
functional, providing excellent speaker sound and quite reasonable
microphone capabilities for a car-based system. The rear view camera is also quite functional, providing a decent, though by no means crystal clear, view what’s behind the vehicle. Keeping in mind that this system is intended to prevent me from running over kids, dogs, bikes, trash cans, etc., and is not intended to allow me to read the license plate of the car parked two spaces behind me, I think it serves its purpose admirably well. Zagat ratings for a large number of POIs are included in this system which appear accurate but not particularly useful unless you are picky about your food options in unfamiliar areas (I tend to prefer asking locals for suggestions over trusting ratings guides). The option to seek destinations via phone number has actually turned out to be surprisingly useful and accurate (you’d be surprised how often you end up on the road with a phone number but no address for a business). Other options include a calendar (cute but not particularly useful), audio controls (effective and better than trying to read the minute print on the stereo buttons while whipping down the road), access to imported cellular phone books for Bluetooth use (highly useful), and a clock with two background options that remind me of the flying toasters screen savers popular what, twenty years ago? I should also mention that there is a voice control option for the navigation and audio systems accessible from the steering wheel. In my experience, this system is entirely dysfunctional. Even when there aren’t three screaming children in the car to interfere with spoken commands, the system seems incapable of understanding anything my wife or I say. After a brief experimental period, we have given up on using this option, but it may be useful for people who drive alone (in a minivan?) or have particularly loud and clear diction. Finally, there is an ever-present icon button that allows you to continually display the locations of POIs of interest like gas stations, restaurants, etc. Some local favorites were missing from the POI database, but this is normal among most of the GPS systems I have used and I typically only use the POI database to determine fuel points on road trips, so I don’t consider this to be a major problem.
Conclusion: The current 2010 Honda Odyssey navigation system appears to me to be a perfectly functional, if slightly quirky, GPS navigation system. Sure, any sub-$200 stand-alone GPS will probably beat the pants off the integrated Nav. option and the graphics appear to be stolen from an Atari 2600, but the real value here (and this is why you are shelling out the big bucks for it) is in the integration with the vehicle. Any techie (including me) will gripe about the inadequacies of this system and rail against the injustice of paying ~$2000 for technology that was outclassed years ago by portable systems costing a tenth of the price. If the user is someone like my wife, however, all he or she wants is a reasonably functional system that is always ready and close at hand with the added bonus of being far less pilfer-able than a portable GPS. Throw in the bonus options of bluetooth connectivity and a rear view camera with a screen larger than a postage stamp, and you have a reasonable argument for spending the extra dough. As with any purchase, you will need to run your own cost/benefit analysis to decide whether these options are worth the extra price for you before taking the plunge, but in my case, at least, we have not regretted the extra expenditure yet.
Post Script: One last thing. A DVD-based navigation system? In the 21st century? Seriously? They couldn’t design this to use flash-based memory but instead opted to install a dedicated DVD player under the driver’s seat? This strikes me as absolutely absurd, but I’m not an engineer, so what do I know?
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show-off-your-project/143899-2007-honda-odyssey-- factory-navigation.html
Dominicanjb
MioPocket
which has been used on multiple handheld platforms (and even some
Chinese aftermarket systems.
The core OS would have be WinCE for MioPocket to work. Picking up a 2010 Odyssey Touring van today, may try to read the DVD (I'm assuming the system is DVD based) and see what I can find.
The forum link above has many topics on built car navi systems, if you're interested check them out.
http://www.xmradio.com/navtraffic/get_nav.xmc
Not to mince words, I HATE :lemon: the system.
The only thing it is consistent in, is giving incorrect or convoluted directions. It is so infuriating, that I often wish I could rip it out and throw it out the window. I am even thinking of selling the car to rid myself of the aggravation and constant reminder of this waste of money.
A main feature is also unsafe. Most of the time, the directions are accompanied by a pop up window on the map screen. Exactly, the best thing to do. Take your eyes off the road to look at the map. Especially at night or in the rain.
I recently received an offer of free shipping with the $185 purchase of an upgrade. It would just be throwing good money after bad.
Navtec sure did a number of Honda on these systems, and Honda is doing a number on the buying public by selling them and telling us there is nothing they can do. Sure there is!! They can fix the things or refund some big bucks across the board.
My street address has been used for at least 135 years so you think Honda would have gotten this right. If I don't know my way back home from out of state, tough luck.
I haven't checked out a 2011 system yet but someone on another forum mentioned it is no longer touchscreen? I guess it only works with a joystick or voice commands. I've never used the voice commands because they're hit/miss for the most part...so they better have improved that. Unless you like typing addresses with a JOYSTICK!!!!
The only hack I've seen is the conversion of the NAV screen into a PC monitor (there's a reference above). But with the interface module to do that costing north of $700, it's hardly worth it IMHO.
The 2011 model has a hard drive in it, and I assume that updates occur via the "normal" DVD player and not the dedicated one that comes with earlier model years. Unfortunately, the firmware (map OS) appears to be embedded in flash memory somewhere, while the map info is on the DVD. You can read the map DVD contents, but Honda/Alpine obviously went to some lengths to obfuscate it.
i have no code i check the dash but no code is there what can i do, need help to get my code
Cheers
Igor
So I'm wondering if anyone has had these problems and has upgraded to the new version ... and if so did it fix or improve these issues? Or is it just a map upgrade?
If you live in a major city, the thing might work a little better but don't try it in everyday average America. What to do? Honda Customer Service doesn't want to talk to you so I'd buy a QVC model where you have at least 30 days to return the thing if it does not meet expectations.
What will I do? I figure this is a major defect in the van and I live where the state protects us with good product liability assistance. My Odyssey is paid for, but when it gets close to running out of its extended warranty, I will file a lemon law complaint and let Honda deliver a new one to my driveway -- if they can find it!! If not, I will have them ship it to my PO box or meet them there.
Good luck!
Once you get the category narrowed down it will give you the option to search by keyword, then it will ask you if you want to sort by distance. Tell it to sort by distance and then it should give you the results you're looking for.
Hopefully that's correct, like I said I had to do it by memory ....
Good luck!
http//www.autodct.com
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/09/hondas-new-navigation-system.html
I bought a 2011 Crosstour this past summer, Despite being the most expensive accord yet, Honda stuck me with the older navi operating system. Does anyone know if the latest navigation DVD being sold at hondanavi.com has this latest OS?
If it does I might be tempted to buy the DVD just for the new OS.
Have not been using the on-board system enough to know the pros & cons. I like the large screen, and - so far - have had few problems finding destinations. I have a MAGELLAN back up stand-a-lone. The built-in also provides the back up camera, compass on dash, and correct time on clock. So far, much prefer the built-in system.