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  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    I'm not sure if this is a problem or not. I noticed that the rear hatch doesn't open in temperature below 40 degrees. It does the beeps and I hear the lock cylinder release and the door tries to open, but the door doesn't open enough to lift up and therefore closes again and locks. I lubed the lock cylinder with WD40 and this didn't work. The owners manual says the automatic door will not work below 20 degrees because the gas in the lifters are cold and will not be able to lift the door. (I'm going from memory here and could be wrong about some of this info.) Also, any suggestions on what to put on the bottom of the rear hatch so when opened it won't get damaged, (paint finish or dents) when striking an object?

    Thanks
  • xbomberxbomber Member Posts: 12
    Having a problem on my 98 Caravan, 112,000 miles. Recently started having a problem were the engine will not start. Here a click from the starter but no start. Turning the key to the off position 1 or 2 times and then it will usually start. Thought it was the 5 year old battery so I replaced it. Started OK for a week. Today it was having start issue again. Can here the click, but no start. The battery voltage drops to about 11.5 volts when the we are trying to start. So I think it is pulling current.

    Does this sound like the starter? has anyone experienced this? I don't want to change out the wrong thing, so all advice is appreciated.
  • dhodho Member Posts: 2
    I had a similar problem. My brake lights would stay on even after I turned off my headlights. The problem was the brake light switch. I bought a new one at Kragen and replaced it and now it's fine. The switch is right under the brake pedal. very easy to change. cost $20.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    Sure sounds like a starter to me. I haven't had that problem on our 1996 Caravan yet, but the symptoms are exactly the same as we had on our old 1985 Caravan when the starter began to go bad. I bought a rebuilt starter and installed myself. Less than $100, two bolts and a couple of electrical connectors to remove and reinstall and it was fixed.

    If there is a separate starter relay remotely located from the starter, I suppose it could be that, but our 1985 the relay was part of the starter. I frankly don't know how your 1999 is setup.
  • little_pogilittle_pogi Member Posts: 149
    If it ain't the battery, then it's the starter. The major auto parts chain usually sell rebuilt starter for a fraction of the cost of a brand new one. They come with a warranty and will perform as good as new. They may require you to trade in your old defective starter.

    Removing the old one and installing the rebuilt one is not that hard. If you are a little bit mechanically inclined, this may be one of the easier parts replacement. No alignment or timing to worry about. As a safety precaution, do not forget to disconnect the ground connector of your battery before you start removing that starter.
  • crkeehncrkeehn Member Posts: 513
    How old is your van? As the vehicle gets colder, the gas struts do get weaker and can't support as much weight. However....

    as the vehicle gets older, the struts also get weaker. I owned an '88 Reliant Wagon that used gas struts to support the tailgate. As the manual explained, in cold weather the strut got too weak to support the tailgate. As the car got on in years, the strut got to weak to support the tailgate even in hot weather.
  • hhallhhall Member Posts: 8
    I was reading some of the information on the site about the quality and reliability of the dodge mini vans and it was not very encouraging information. I would enjoy hearing from people if they have good experiences with the 2004 dodge caravans, or should I stay away from them?
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    Son got 2002 GC Sport with 13,000 miles on it last year. Now has 36,000 trouble free miles. I got a 2002 T&C LX a few months ago with under 27,000 miles on it and have no problems.
         Another son has a 99 GC SE with 70,000 miles with no problems...not even had to replace front disc pads or shoes on rear brakes.
         DaimlerChrysler reliability has drastically improved in the past 5 or 6 years.
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    It's a 2001. The manual says: "The power liftgate will not operate in temperatures below -12 degrees. Gas props support the liftgate in the open position. however, because the gas pressure drops with temperature, it may be necessary to assist the props when opening the lift gate in cold weather."
  • crkeehncrkeehn Member Posts: 513
    are anything like the ones on My old Plymouth Reliant wagon, the struts got weaker with age and they wouldn't even support the tailgate in warm weather. Apparently they were "Just" strong enough when new without any reserve capacity to allow for aging.
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    The gas prop on an acquaintances's Volvo Station Wagon fell off before the Volvo was 3 years old. It provided no assist after about 1 year and the Volvo had only 1 gas prop.
         Glad Chrysler vehicles last longer than Volvo.
  • ppekppek Member Posts: 58
    We own a 2002 Grand Caravan ES AWD with 35,000 miles. for the last 5,000 - 10,000 miles, we have had trouble with a high pitched squeak coming from the rear when we brake. The dealership said some components are rusted in the e-brake system and that they would need to replace the pads, rotors, and e-brake components and it would cost over $450. They even charged us $88 just to diagnose this!

    They said this was caused by lack of use of the e-brake. Has anyone ever heard of this? This is my wife's van and she probably only uses the e-brake when parking on a hill, but I would not think lack of use would cause this. Even so, can't something be lubricated to help with this?

    Thanks for your help.

    Paul
  • 97xpresso97xpresso Member Posts: 249
    You should get that diagnosis and pricing in writing and send it to DC and ask them why their dealer ratings are so low. Other than the cost of wear items, this repair should be covered under warranty. This dealer is clearly trying to rip you off.
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    I agree with 97expresso. Also, go to a different dealership and get a second opinion. Make sure not to mention what the first dealership told you until after they write you up an estimate. (Check to see if they are going to charge you to look at the brake system before hand.) If they do and you don't want to pay for an estimate, then go to a Car-X. They give free estimates.
  • smmhcsmmhc Member Posts: 10
    Just bought an 04 base caravan off lease. MPG highway at 68-72 apprxly 30-32. Engine 3.3 with 4spd tranny. Problem: in town driving (a small town at that) MPG drop to 10-12. Have found that I can do 5-7 MPH in my driveway as I backup and on level ground about the same going forward. Do you think this is a simple throttle issue or what. Car is under DC warranty for next 18000 miles. Thanks for the help.
  • duhlsduhls Member Posts: 2
    I have a 1999 Grand Caravan 3.3 liter. It has rough idle only when vehicle is in drive or reverse. Idles smoothly in Park or Neutral. Engine runs smoothly during driving and acceleration. There is no "Check Engine Light" or trouble codes stored in the engine controller. Any idea ?
  • aegiusaegius Member Posts: 2
    Hey guys,
    Computers are my forte`, cars are not. I figured I'd ask you experts here (and even those of you with similar experience;) about a problem with the power window on me and my wife's Caravan SE 2001. Basically, it doesn't work. While rolling up once it seemed to slow down a bit, then stays in the up position. Is this a fuse or motor problem? Anyone have suggestions that I could check? I know there's a fusebox under the hood somewhere LOL....and another under the dash somewhere? LOL thanks in advance guys :)
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    Sounds like the same problem on our van, same year too. Both power window regulators needed to be replaced. Seems like this is a common problem with the 2001 modules.
  • aegiusaegius Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the reply! One of our friends had the same issue with theirs. The $148 labor and $80 to $130 for a regulator price the dealer just quoted me, though .... ouch!
  • myleomyleo Member Posts: 1
    MY 2001 Grand Caravan with 53,000 miles has a problem that has my favorite mechanic and even the dealership stumped. Off and on for a day or so it would stick in 2nd gear, the speedometer would stop working then the transmission jerked so badly I couldn't drive it.The malfunction light wwould come on during this time then go off. After I backed it down the street in reverse all problems disappeared until the next day. It ran great for the repair shop.It was scanned by my mechanic computer then at the dealers. No code appeared except the one when we replaced the battery long ago. ( Can they not make a battery that lasts longer) Also the air bag light comes on and off constantly while driving. Is this related? Thanks for any input. Myleo
  • cannman1061cannman1061 Member Posts: 1
    Our 03 GC recently started stalling at start-up and while driving. It is at a local Dodge dealership and they have no clue. They have taken it out for a test drive with their computer hooked up, got all good readings, stopped at a light and it stalled. It took several attempts before it came back to life. They also let it run at their shop and it stalled there as well. They are going to call Tech Support for an assist since they can not find any problem. Has anybody else had this problem, had it fixed, and if so what was the fix?
  • stingray76stingray76 Member Posts: 2
    Has anyone experienced problems with the delay wipers quitting and needing to be reset?
    I have a 99 Grand Caravan. It is an intermittent problem.
    When I turn the delay wiper on to various delay settings, they may swipe a few times, then it appears the wiper "jumps" and quits. At this point, none of delay wiper setting work, and I need to turn wipers off and then back on. When I turn the wipers off, the blades will swipe windshield from 2-4 times before shutting off.
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    Sounds like it is either the wiper motor going bad or the wiper switch.
  • léaléa Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2002 dodge grand caravan and since we have it, it's always at the garage. Last saturday oct30-2004, The transmission went.In 2003 a power steering hose went. Then we went for the door at the back,it wan't closing right. We had some chrysler car before and we never had problem. The next one wont be a van. I'm tired of having to bring the van to the garage and they don't let you another car for the time of repair.Bought the van in Ontario
    from Gatineau
  • 5bucks5bucks Member Posts: 10
    I have a 98 grand voyager with about 82k miles. 2 years ago at about 45k miles we had a very intermittent problem with the instrument cluster going completely dead. We took it to the dealer for service but of course it was not having the problem at the time. Over time this problem has occurred more and more frequently. At this point the dashboard is out more often than not. Additionally, about 6 months ago the indicator lights on the buttons for A/C, rear wiper, and rear defrost started flashing. No pattern to the flashing.

    When the dashboard is out we lose all lights in the driver's console and none of the instruments function. Cruise control still works but its' indicator light does not come on. Mileage does not increase when the dash is out. All the controls (turn signals, headlights, radio,heat and a/c, cruise) still operate properly. There does seem to be a loss of engine power when the dash is out, but it is subtle and only really noticeable when passing at highway speeds. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when we lose the dash and when it starts operating again. It's gone out while driving and come back on while driving. Other times it's fine one day and then out when we start the vehicle the next day. I did notice once that the gauges came back on at the instant the passenger side sliding door was slammed shut while driving slowly. Check engine light has been on constantly for about 18 months.

    Anyone have any ideas? I am hesitant to take this back to the dealer without a better understanding of what might be going on. The few cases I have found with a similar problem have been back to the dealer numerous times at great expense mainly without solving the problem. I have re seated all the electrical connectors that are accessible under the dash. The dealer solutions that mostly haven't worked that I've read about are: Replace the computer, Replace the body control module and check a ground in the area of the passenger side B pillar. I really don't want to pay $400 for a new computer from a dealer that does not solve the problem.
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    Check your fuses. In your owners manual there should be a listing as to which functions are connected to each fuse. As far as the check engine light, go to Murray's or Autozone and have them to check the code. They do it for free.
  • 5bucks5bucks Member Posts: 10
    Thanks for the reply.

    I have checked the fuses many times. They've always been fine. Have re-seated all fuses as well. As for the check engine light - I'm fairly certain it's coming on due to the small loss of engine performance that happens when the gauges go out. Back when the gauge problem happened much less frequently I could disconnect the battery and reconnect to get rid of the check engine light. Never came back on until I would lose the gauges again.
  • merwinemerwine Member Posts: 3
    Question, 2000 plymouth voyager 124,000 miles. The heater is giving no heat. The mechanic flushed the heater core, no help, then installed a new thermostat & gasket, new antifreee no help. He is stumped and I am freezing. The fan is working fine but blows "lukewarm" heat only after the van runs for about an hour.
  • hayneldanhayneldan Member Posts: 657
    Seems to be a bad ground somewhere under the dash. Do you have a service manual? It lists all the places the dash is grounded.
  • smartycatsmartycat Member Posts: 2
    I have an intermittent problem with all PRDNL indicator lights coming on when turning on the ignition. If I play with the shifter or just wait a few minutes it will go back into park. The dealer has replaced several parts already transmission control module, IPM, transmission range sensor and body control module. Any ideas?

    Thanks!
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    Our 2001 DGC does the same thing when first turning the ignition key PRNDL3 are all lite up. But after a few seconds, I guess after it goes through the system test, only P is lite.
  • wijocowijoco Member Posts: 462
    You may very well have heat circulating through the heater core, but if the mechanism that acutally switches the airflow under the dash is broken you won't get hot air. If your mechanic doesnt understand blend door operation then you need to go to someone who does.
  • romadtsgtromadtsgt Member Posts: 1
    I own a 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan EX, unfortunately. Thirteen times to the shop in 3 and 1/2 years. Chrysler and the Dealer have treated us very poorly. Our lastest problems have been electrical, Transmission Control Module, ABS Module, Front Control Module, and Headlight Switch. I'll never buy another Chrysler product, nor will any of my 5 children.

    Check out the problems that I've encountered over the last 3 and 1/2 years:

    * September 5, 2001 - Mileage 5,457 - Rear Lift Gate failed, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Adjustment.
    * October 12, 2001 - Mileage 7,050 - Rear Lift Gate failed, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Special Order Parts
    * November 3, 2001 - Mileage 7,870 - Rear Lift Gate failed, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Install Special Order Parts.
    * November 8, 2001- Mileage 8,086 - Rear Lift Gate failed, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Repaired Connection.
    * November 21, 2001- Mileage 8,095 - Rear Lift Gate failed, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Replaced Motor Assembly.
    * May 10, 2002 - Mileage 16,575 - Recall, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Reprogram Powertrain Control Module
    * June 10, 2002 - Mileage 21,561 - Battery Died, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Replaced Battery (This Required Towing Service)
    * October 30, 2002 - Mileage 29,097 - Lights and Horn Flashing uncontrollably, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Cleaned/Dried Front Control Module (This Required Towing Service)
    * March 21, 2003 - Mileage 36,422 - Engine running rough, bucking and jerking, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Replaced #3 and #5 Spark plugs.
    * August 10, 2003 - Mileage unknown - Battery Died. Action - Self replaced battery. (Note: Two Batteries in Two Years)
    * September 25, 2004 - Mileage - 52,741 - Air Condition stopped cooling, Anti-Lock Brake Light Activated, Headlights Flicker intermittently, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - 1. Replaced Condenser and Drier for Air Conditioner 2. Replaced ABS Control Module for Anti-Lock Brake Light problem 3. Replaced Front Control Module for Headlight problem. 4. Additionally Transmission failed on mechanic test drive, requiring replacement of Transmission Control Module... Total Cost for these 4 repairs $1,604.16
    * October 8, 2004 - Mileage - 53,051 - Headlights flicker intermittently, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Action - Replace Body Control Module.
    * October 25, 2004 - Mileage - 53,??? - Headlights still flicker intermittently, brought to the Dodge dealer for repair. Received it back this evening November 4, 2004.
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    WOW...your 2001 GC EX has been even worse than my 1970 Dodge van was.
         It took me 30 years to have that bad experience fade enough in my memory to get another Chrysler product. Two of my 3 sons now drive Dodge Grand Caravans and I own a 2002 Chrysler T&C.
  • signcuttersigncutter Member Posts: 1
    I am currently have the same problem. I also think it is alarm related. I have checked both the battery and the starter and they are fine. When i turn on the key every thing comes on except the engine will not start! I think there is an alarm engine kill relay that is bad or something like that. If you or anyone knows what is going on please reply. thanks.
  • wijocowijoco Member Posts: 462
    Well the next time you're back at the dealer bring a tackhammer with you to bop every one of the techs and the SM with. I certainly wouldn't want to be teamed up with any of them on Battle of the Brains. If you've constantly replaced batteries and had continual intermittent failure of different control modules, it should be perfectly obvious that there is a greater electrical problem with your van. Like, a charging system problem that is not maintaining system voltage or even spiking current. I think you need to hav some careful thought over whether your particular dealer is even capable of diagnosing a problem like this (I'm guessing they're not) and consider making some phone calls to other dealer service departments with your trouble. Generally, a service manager who listens carefully is a good indicator of the quality of the service department.
  • buddysmombuddysmom Member Posts: 2
    Having trouble with the alram horn going off for no reason. The van can be parked on slight grade, or even when the wind blows the alarm goes off. Looking for an owners manual to disable alarm
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    What year is your van and did you purchase the alarm from the dealer? Sometimes when I have the keys in my pocket, one of my other keys depresses the panic button and the alarm goes off. This has happened a few time at home in our garage. You have to be careful not to depress any of the buttons on the remote by accident.
  • buddysmombuddysmom Member Posts: 2
    1997, the car was purchased through a dealer but no manual. I don't think her key buttons are the problem either, they hang on a hook at home and this has happened several times with no rhyme or reason. I am trying to locate an owners manual
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Member Posts: 421
    It sounds like you just recently purchased the van. Did you try contacting the dealer ship that you purchased it from? You might be able to find a manual on ebay too. Good Luck.
  • pnh21pnh21 Member Posts: 10
    These Chrysler Vans are very sensitive to weak batteries. I have similar experience, the alarm goes off every now and then that I have to disconnect the battery to stop the alarm. This seem to happen when the vehicle has not been used for some time, current draw and battery being slowly discharged. The alarm will sense this battery drain as drop in current similar to someone opening a door, then the alarm is activated. When I bought a new battery, this stopped altogether. Yours may just need new battery.
  • lee9lee9 Member Posts: 5
    Dusty,

    I have a 00 Grand Voyager SE with 101k. The shifting of the transmission seems to be jerky, especially if it is cold. Is this the "bump shift" problem you spoke of? Is it serious?

    Thanks,
    lee9
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    Well, it could be. The "bump-shift" problem is usually described as a hard 1-2 upshift at very low speeds, or a hard 3-1 downshift when coming to a stop. I have heard it also described as an occasional harsh 2-3 at low speeds.

    It depends on the year, but a PCM reflash resolved this problem on many units. Expended ATF has also been attributed to this problem. I would recommend you see a dealer. They are (...oops! Should be...) the most familiar with this problem.

    Best regards,
    Dusty
  • bjfbjf Member Posts: 1
    I need to reset or replace the BCM in my 2000 Chrysler mini-van. Does anyone know where it is?
  • cbwilshacbwilsha Member Posts: 70
    5bucks--Have you tried a new battery? I had a 98 Town & Country that had many of the problems cited. I put in a new battery and haven't had any problems since. Certainly, if you haven't renewed the battery recently, it's worth a try. I have read in other T & C and Caravan forums where others with strange electrical problems solved them all with a new fresh battery.

    C.B.
  • lee9lee9 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the response. I'll take it in. My dealer is pretty good. :-)
  • jjtjjjtj Member Posts: 80
    My in-laws have a 2000 Plym GV & it did the same thing. They did the $400 computer replacement and it solved the problem immediately.. this was a year or more ago & it is still working. Hope this helps.
  • jjtjjjtj Member Posts: 80
    I have a 03 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport.. it has the 3.3L with about 40K on the clock. I've only owned it for a couple of months. Ever since I bought it, the van will kind of lightly buck when the torque converter locks up, starting around 45 mph. It's most noticeable at that speed, esp. if you're going up a small grade the the load is higher. It feels like the engine is not getting enough fuel.. I've replaced the fuel filter, air filter & plugs. Nothing has really helped. The OBD is not indicating any codes. I'm thinking possibly fuel pump is producing low pressure or the torque converter is slipping. I asked my mechanic to check the fuel psi but he said there is no tap and they'd have to splice in. I've seen fuel pressure gauges @ Autozone but not sure how difficult that would be. I try to do as much myself as possible. Anybody seen this problem? Also, mileage is only about 18 mpg, which seems like of low. Thanks - Jason
  • leotaurleotaur Member Posts: 17
    I have just picked up my new GC SXT and am well pleased. The owner's manual says nothing about the radio antenna, so I don't know what I do about it at the car wash. The sales brochure says that the premium group which I ordered includes a "touring suspension" but I can't find out anywhere what this means. Can anyone advise me?
  • cbwilshacbwilsha Member Posts: 70
    The antenna should be removed and it is very easy to do. Around where I live, if you don't remove it, the guys at the car wash will. BTW, I have a new 2005 T&C and love it. I've had mine (ordered from the factory) for 3 months and not a single problem--not even a squeak or rattle! I'm not sure what a "touring suspension" is so maybe someone else can give you some insight on that.

    C.B.
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