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Volvo S80

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  • jarchjarch Posts: 16
    neil2212: I had the programming done to turn off my daylight running lights a few months ago. The light switch works as you would want/expect - if you leave it in the ON position your lights will come on every time you start your car. When you turn off your car, even though your switch is left in the ON position your lights WILL go off.

    If you turn the switch OFF, then your lights won't ever come on.
  • scottc3scottc3 Posts: 137
    It took a bit of doing, but I got the service scheduled and completed ON TIME. I left the S80 for four hours and it was ready when I got there to pick it up. Did not notice much difference, if any, but feel better it's done. I also bought 2 oil filters for future use. Glad to have the car back.
  • dfwt6dfwt6 Posts: 24
    (A little late...I've been away from the board for a while.)

    NO, that's the whole point of getting NON-METALLIC tint; however, if you don't have the GPS I'd personally recommend getting the metallic on the side windows since it's a higher performance film. Metallic tint on the BACK window is what interferes with your radio reception and GPS. Have it done professionally by a reputable shop or it won't matter what you had put on.

    Ask TX_BEHR (Glad that solved your problem, Phil).
  • dfwt6dfwt6 Posts: 24
    Regarding your comment about illogical lighting, you are partly right. No, other German cars (BMW and Mercedes I know) do have the parking lights staying on without ignition and without a warning chime. Yes, the DRL's really aren't; I suspect it was the easiest way to program the car, to just have the lights always "on" rather than figuring out how to extrapulate programming to get only the high beams on at 50%. I had mine turned off (and the one-touch all-door-unlock also).
  • dfwt6dfwt6 Posts: 24
    Your dealer experience sounds like what I'd expect Nils Sifeldt would do.

    Is your insurance company not involved?

    Consult an attorney who specializes in Texas Lemon Law litigation/advice. Don't learn it on your own.

    If you live in a metro area (like Dallas), at least one of the TV stations must have an investigative reporter looking for ways to "be on your side". If you're wanting to draw attention to the dealership and the problem I'd call them. Nobody likes that kind of press pointed at them and if there's more than one Volvo dealer in town the negative press would be hugely detrimental to their business (and a great windfall to their competitors!).

    Good luck, I can only imagine the horror of being in my burning car with my wife and boys.
  • dfwt6dfwt6 Posts: 24
    I use Meguiar's #40 for the black body moulding and it does a GREAT job of cleaning and restoring it back to the showroom black look, including taking out my overwipes of wax (Meguiars #20 poly sealant).

    Look here for online shopping:

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  • mkrichmkrich Posts: 8
    I know the parking lights not going off or chiming is an intentional feature shared by other car makers, and that if left on a reasonable time they won't run down the battery. I just don't like it, largely because if I happen to leave mine on, so many people at work come tell me that I can't ignore it. And before I turned off the DRLs it happened frequently as I went to parking lights driving through a security gate then didn't reset them. Neither right nor wrong, just my opinion...
  • scottc3scottc3 Posts: 137
    Had the opportunity to drive in a Mercedes S500 the other day.. wow.. nice everything.. lot's of leg room, power to spare big time.. very nice.. then I was dropped off at my 2000 T6, got in, was driving home going 65 or so, quiet, smooth, power to spare.. drives real nice.. hummm, is there a $80K difference (a guess on my part).. no way, the T6 is great for the money... I was happy.

    Scott
  • I am a proud owner of 99 S80.
    Volvo just sent me an offer for an extended warrante. Personally would entertain the 6-7 year
    100,000 mile + package. A little pricey.
    Is it worth the money?
  • javaseajavasea Posts: 11
    Jeffery,

    How much? I am considering the same in a way, but the dealer won't quote prices until I come in to deal. No way for me. For me, I will consider another dealer or source for extended warranty information. I would like to know where to go to conduct some "research" on this topic re the S80. Thanks.

    Javasea
    00,2.9 BD 10/99
  • mkrichmkrich Posts: 8
    Its just insurance; its only worth it if you need it... But seriously, IMO its only worth getting if you think you wo't be able to afford that major repair down the road--IF it happens after original warranty expires and IF you still own the car. They don't sell them cause they lose money on them; odds are (and they know the odds, you don't) you're better off not getting it and if you don't trust the car as it ages, trade/sell it before the original warranty expires.
    Just my 2 cents...
  • Have you considered the possibility of referring your Volvo experiences to the Ralph Nader organization? This is an ongoing scandal! This should not be tolerated, specially form a car company that touts its alleged emphasis on quality, reliability and safety!
    Maybe Ford - the new owners - can be embarassed into forcing Volvo back to their former profile of quality, reliablity, and - therefore - safety.
    We know what we are speaking about. We are currently on our third Volvo, and we are wondering wether it is worth it to consider a fourth one! I guess they REALLY don't make them the way they used to.
  • It finally happened to me. I took my '00 T6 in for the ball joint recall on Friday, and decided to get some reprogramming performed at the same time (DRLs turned off, one-touch unlock, flash lights when unlock, turbo lag (28-3)). Was told that 28-23 did not apply to my car, but 28-26 did (idle variance). They talked me into the 15k service (w/o oil change, since I had just performed an oil change the previous weekend). The 15k service included the pollen filter, but I'm not convinced that they performed the filter replacement (since dust was not disturbed under the hood where I was told the filter is (anyone know I can locate the filter to verify it is new?)). Now that I have had the ball joints replaced, I too have the "clunk" that has been described here. I DID NOT have the clunk before the recall service was performed. Has anybody else experienced this same problem? Thanks in advance, Neil. BTW, the 15k service was $131 (w/o the oil change).
  • ..have a dealer in LA who has agreed to sell me a 1999 S80 T6 Demo with 1275 miles on it for $33,500, fully loaded except for the Navigational system! I am considering picking it up on Monday evening.....any suggestions? recall issues? other things, please...let me know!
  • ..have a dealer in LA who has agreed to sell me a 1999 S80 T6 Demo with 1275 miles on it for $33,500, fully loaded except for the Navigational system! I am considering picking it up on Monday evening.....any suggestions? recall issues? other things, please...let me know!
  • jlfoxjlfox Posts: 14
    The S80 pollen filter is under the glove box and changed from inside the car. Which clunk are you talking about? Ball joint change should not affect sub frame bushing or steering column.
  • Wow! It must have taken a while to compile all that information, Disappointed! All I can say is that as the owner of a 200 S80 T-6 whose only trip to the shop has been for routine maintenance and the ball joint recall, I must be very lucky.

    Reading all this does, however, make me hesitant to trade my S80 for another in a couple of years when it's time to get a new car. One thing's for sure- I'll be doing a lot of reading on this BB before I buy anything. That said, I still love my S80!!
  • Wow! It must have taken a while to compile all that information, Disappointed! All I can say is that as the owner of a 2000 S80 T-6 whose only trip to the shop has been for routine maintenance and the ball joint recall, I must be very lucky.

    Reading all this does, however, make me hesitant to trade my S80 for another in a couple of years when it's time to get a new car. One thing's for sure- I'll be doing a lot of reading on this BB before I buy anything. That said, I still love my S80!!
  • Neil:

    Quick question for you - what's the service code/# for having the Alarm flash the lights on UNLOCK?

    Granted - I wish the car would beep/peep/honk during both lock and unlock (or at least provide the option for it).

    Other than that - I'll accept having it flash it's lights at me when unlocking! :-)

    Thanks again,

    Phil
  • shaunsshauns Posts: 24
    Sigh. Poor Volvo.

    The latest issue of AutoWeek had a review on the S60, which Volvo is positioning as a sport sedan to compete with the A4, 328, and C-class. Autoweek's comments were sadly familiar:

    "great looker"
    "shows its familysedan roots"
    "torque steer"
    "like all Volvos, it displays a quiet isolation from the road, with no (wheel) feedback to speak of."

    And so forth. Autoweek had the first mention of what appears to be Volvo's strategy: Styling + safety. But, as they put it, "in the luxury classes in which Volvo is fond of playing, safety is a given. Volvo could not sell cars on safety alone."

    I haven't had that many problems with my S80, but over the last year I've become less enchanted with its overall design concept. Many have described the Volvo as a "Swedish Buick", and I now have to concur. The S80 is basically an ok car, but with a LOT of rough edges. Particularly in handling, noise isolation, and suspension. It does not display the high level of BALANCED competence than its German competitors do.

    Volvo's apparent choice to emphasize styling as its primary "new" attribute harkens back to the bad old days of auto design (both US and European) in the 60's, when the only new thing was an extra piece of chrome. The Japanese exposed this practice for the laziness it was. In the face of its competition, this decision is not wise. The worst thing a company can do is not deliver on the promises it makes.

    It is interesting to note that BMW is essentially indistinguishable from Lexus anymore in terms of initial quality. Audi is middle of the pack - understandable, since they were rotten for so long.

    However, if our new Passat is any indication, the quality and solidity of the VW-Audi group platforms is superb. So good, in fact, that I am hard pressed to justify the purchase of another luxury car when the high-midrange class offers nearly as much for much less. Still, the new A6 comes out in Fall 2002.
    I will be watching with great interest.
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