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I bought this car without a manual!Is that right?
cruise control
AM/FM cass, CD + 6 speakers
Floor mats.
I'm using this info to try to get a competing dealer to give me the same exact car for $16000 OTD. Do you think it's possible that the dealer will give me this deal?
AM/FM cass, CD + 6 speakers,floor mats, cargo net, and all weather packages. I think it's good deal so I took it, although I was just looking for a car but not in a hurry. I live in central Jersey.
I work for an auto finance place, and the dealer gets a kickback on the loan when you go through their lending source. He's just trying to make some cash like he told you. I know with mine, the loan has to be in effect for 6 months though. I don't work for Toyota though, their procedures might be different.
see details of my case at:
http://www.cartrackers.com/Forums/live/Toyota/227.html
handle: rnayar
Best of luck.
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Is this a good price bought in Hawaii?
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Of course, when I take my Edmunds.com information to the dealerships, they tell me that it's garbage and that I can just throw it away, because it's wrong. I know that that's a typical technique for dealerships, but I'm concerned that it may actually be TRUE here, because of the unique situation of the Gulf States Toyota dealers.
Furthermore, Gulf States Toyota DOES NOT MAKE a Corolla with ABS. I absolutely insisted on ABS, and they finally admitted to me that they could special-order one. Then they started dicking me around about price, pointing to my Edmunds.com pricing report and insisting that the MSRP was their invoice price. I know that that was all lies, but since the Invoice price isn't reliable for Louisiana, I don't know just how low I can go on my demands for a lower price.
Can anyone advise me where I might be able to find actual invoice prices for Louisiana?
Thanks,
-- David
As far as invoice goes, it was very close to Edmunds - the only variation was the Gulf States options that were installed (leather, cruise, and a couple of other things).
If the dealer says the invoice is bunk, ask him show it to you. When dealing with the dealer, deal at invoice plus, not haggle over discount from MSRP. In my humble opinion, from what you've told me about the dealer, I would move on. Life is too short to do business with people that have no respect for customers.
I ended up paying about $350 over invoice here in Fort Smith, and they made a mistake and actually gave me tinted windows. With the rebate, that made it $650 BELOW invoice. It was around $15k and I think the sticker was around or over $17k. I made a post earlier on the board with the exact numbers if you want to look it up.
I'm not sure about the ABS - I would check with other dealers on that.
Anyone know if the remote keyless entry was included in a power package on the LE in 2001? Couldn't find original option packages on the Edmunds site for years past.
Nitrolady
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There is a cost involved making the Corolla ready to tow, the same could buy an old truck, and you can attach a ball to the bumper.
~alpha
In Germany the Toyota Yaris -the Echo in NA- can tow 900 kgs, aprox. 2000 lbs. This even apllies to the 1.3 liter (smaller) 83 HP engine.
So if the Echo can tow 2000 lbs the Corolla should be able to do the same or better.
I do not tow with Corolla, but have some experience with Subaru. Subaru is 700 lbs heavier and engine has 35 more HP (2.5L H4), thus it can easly handle the rated 2000 Lbs of trailer. In Europe/Australia it is rated at 1400 kg and more.
Based on this, I can imagine that Corolla should do 1500-2000 lbs. easily.
However, AT cooler is a must. I measured 220 F in fluid after spirited driving in Corolla (85+ MPH) on a hot day. If you add load, it will cook the tranny.
If you exceed 1000-1500 lbs, you should probably invest in trailer brakes for your sefety.
Steering: Slight advantage for the 03 Corolla
Ride: Slight advantage for the 02 Corolla (03's version is a bit more bouncy)
Handling: about even (the 03 model is more confidence inspiring at moderate speeds, but more tippy at higher speeds or on windy days)
Fuel consumption: A slight advantage for the 02 vesion in Summer and a BIG advantage for same in Winter. The 03 model Winter fuel consumption is unexlpicably bad (the dealer hasn't a clue!). Thankfully, no foul smell incidents in either model, unlike many here who experience the rotten egg smell in the 03 model.
Refinement: the 02 model is quieter at all engine speeds, and the noise it produces is less thrashy than the decidedly agricultural sound emanating from the 03 model engin during hard accleration.
Build quality: 03 has a better fit and finish (smaller panel gaps and such), BUT the 02 seems to have a tighter build quality (less rattles despite higher milage).
Inerior design and quality: the ONLY THING in the 03 model that is vastly superior to the 02 model.
Crash worthiness: the 03 model is better.
Driving position: a major problem with the 03 model, but only for people taller than 5'9". I'm 6', and I'm much more comfortable in the 02 Corolla. My wife, who's 5'5", is equally comfortable in either.
Looks: highly subjective, for sure, but the 03 looks fresher to my eyes (it's a newer design after all). On the other hand, the 02, which may be a tad too mundane looking, is more proprtionate and doesn't have that annoying narrow tall design many small cars -including the 03 Corolla- seem to have these days, unfortunately.
Good luck with your purchase. Either way you'll end up with the best-engineered car in the small car segment.
Has anybody had this happen to them? Is this normal, or should I be worried? I'll send the car to the dealer to have it checked, but I wanted to check your feedback here first.
Thanks!
I'll kick myself if the Corolla engine has this sludge problem because I was shopping for a newer used car since my VE didn't have A/C. I decided to keep my 'Rolla and add A/C since I was only offered $4,300 as trade in and couldn't get a used '03 Corolla for $12,000 (which I didn't even test drive at the time). Well, heck if the dealers are going to offer me bottom dollar on a trade in, I'll counter with bottom dollar for their used cars.
The '03 handled well, but it's "higher stance/higher center of gravity" made it less fun to drive than my '98 with 195/50 15 tires. This may not be a fair comparison, but I think the higher stance of the new Corolla makes it less fun to drive.
Power in the ’03 was impressive, even while running A/C. The A/C I've recently added to my '98 Corolla really saps power. I understand that the 2003's A/C is a self-contained electric unit, no belt to the engine to rob power.
The cup holder in the '03 will probably do better in holding tall metal commuter cups in place and Not have them fall to the floor on sharp turns as in my '98. I also think that the auto trans shifter's more forward position is a better location and will result in a lessening of accidental knockings into neutral
I'm only 5'7" and I like the driving position of my '98 better than the '03. My feet felt cramped at the pedals on the '03.
I like the styling of my mystic teal '98 Corolla with premium wheels and performance tires over the '03 Corolla. IMO, the '03 is a rather frumpy looking car.
Ended up going with a '03 Sentra and besides a a/c warranty issue, the car is a great little driver, overall very satisfied.
Hope all is well with your '96 DX.
The Sandman :-)