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I don't know if you're going to find lease terms as low as your looking for. I'm in a 4 yr lease, 10k/yr with no cap cost reduction for just over $500/mo.
I found the Saab was a little soft for my taste and I felt a little torque steer around some corners, as you usually do in front drivers. The A6 definitely feels more buttoned down, although you compromise on the ride a little bit with the sport package. I still say the BMW 530i is the best combo of ride and handling, for what it's worth. I think both the A6 & 530i are in a different class from the Saab, no offence to Saab owners.
Good luck w/ your decision.
--An Alpine MRV-F353 Subwoofer Drive/Power Amp with 300 watts splittable through various channels, anchored solidly on the left side of the trunk.
--Two JL Audio 10" Subwoofers mounted on the ceiling of the trunk, right under the speakers behind the backseat headrests
(BTW both of these things were pretty unobtrusive and left plenty of room in the trunk.)
--Replaced the front door speakers with a pair of MB Quart PSC-216's. (I left the rear door speakers alone).
--Replaced the dash head unit with an Eclipse 5441 single-CD player/receiver.
--The cost for parts, installation, follow-up tweaking etc came to about $2600. Not exactly cheap, but worth it for me--the sound was absolutely stunning...lots of depth, crystal clear and even when you cranked it to ear-splitting levels--no distortion. And since I just had them take it all out and put the original stuff back in, I can use it all again...or maybe try to upgrade a little. I'm sure you could put in a very good system for less--as long as you find a good place to do it. Anyway, hope that gives you some ideas. good luck.
Michael
27k on it now. the cost of the maintenance did not scare her off, because she really liked the car (she also had an 89 80 when we met). i point this out simply to use as a comparison for owning
versus leasing. if someone were looking for a vehicle to buy and hold onto in order to get the maximum value out of the money initially spent on the vehicle, imo, this would not be the vehicle i would pick. don't get me wrong, i think the a6 is great and would love to have one, but i am someone
who buys and holds...the cost of the timing belt alone on this engine would be enough for me to think twice about buying one and holding onto it.
as someone stated some time back, a car like this is almost designed to be leased rather than bought outright. as much as gm has stayed with ohv engines, one can appreciate the low maintenance costs that these engines allow. my only point is that trying to quantify the cost of ownership over the life of a vehicle isn't just leasing versus buying but aside from the inital cost differences between cars, maintenance should be a major consideration when making that decision. jackg
Thank you for letting me know what you did. The best part was the ability to restore the original equipment; I assume that procedure is painless. Of course one of the reasons to remove the upgrade is to transfer it to another car. What are the chances that an Audi I get in 2005 can still use the same CD player/receiver?
I'll have to add upgraded auto audio to my toy list and see about finding a skilled installer around here.
Thanks much,
Greg
p.s. The best thing to do of course, if you're thinking about putting
in after market stuff is to try NOT to get a car with the Bose option--no use paying for it if you ain't gonna use it.
I'm looking at a 2000 A6 quattro with the 2.7T and 6spd. The dealership is asking $34k for it w/42k miles on the clock already (so it's a well-loved machine). What experiences do owners have with this combo on their cars? Any problems to look out for?
thx in advance!
I bought the same model '00 2.7 T w/tiptronic-heated seats,moonroof, auto-dim mirrors,bose-@$42,500 brand new. I think $34,000 is high at the present time. I believe about $30,000 to $31,000 would be more in line for that car.
Got home, left it for awhile and then came out to go through the manual in detail. Alas, the power windows, interior lights and power door locks were no longer functioning! Also, the indicator lights showed that the doors were open when they were closed. Checked the fuse box and sure enough at least one of the fuses is blown - there must be a short. How's that for instilling confidence in Audi electrical systems?
I've had a great experience with the dealership and I'm pleased with my choice of car, so I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt for this first problem. Let's cross our fingers and hope this was an anomoly.......
I have the '00 2.7T w/tip transmission. 34,000 miles. No major problems to date. Both front windows needed "insert" repair-(they stopped going up)- one air conditioning adjustment (not enough cold air blowing)-new windshield wipers- a cover came off the drivers seat track (on floor towards back seat) and the chrome strip along the back trunk was replaced 4 times- (it kept discoloring)- replaced both batteries in Audi remote key fob.
All of these things were fixed promptly by the dealer under warranty.
Good luck in the future w/ your new Audi. BTW- did you purchase the 6-speed or the "tip"?
The problem was a short in the vanity mirror above the driver side. It's a part of a big circuit that includes the power window, door locks, interior lights, memory switches and some instrumentation. I don't know if it should be considered a design fault but that's certainly a lot of accessories on one circuit.
marleybarr, I got the tiptronic tranny and am reasonably happy with it. I drove the stick and it does feel livelier but the shifter is a little rubbery. The auto was a concession for my better half. So far, the adaptive programming seems to work pretty well and it's a nice feature to have the ability to shift from the steering wheel.
theremin, I don't see too many irish green audis on the road - seems like it was a new color for '02. When the dealer did a search in the NE for any A6 w/ sport package, they only turned up this one w/ the color. I was originally thinking goodwood green, but am really glad I got this color. It looks outstanding - I'll post a pic when I get a chance. Re: the sound system, I don't love the sound thus far (too much base, sounds a little muddy, mediocre reception on radio), but am reticent to spend a lot of money to upgrade a lease vehicle. I also don't spend nearly as much time in my car as many of you (5-8K/yr).
I have a weekend trip coming up and will have an opportunity for a little "shake-down" cruise. More comments to follow.....
Thanks a lot.
wondering if my wif'es 01 a6 avant would have that feature? jackg
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'm hearing that in the long haul, the Audi may have a few little quirky bugs here and there. Overall, the owners seem very loyal to their Audi. On the drive to work this morning, the driver of another A6 waived to me - must be a secret handshake or something in this club!
lines on the car, everything is so smooth and sleak (sp?)...it always amzes me to look at the front overhang on the current audis' and know that they're fwd and still see so litle mass infront of the front axle plane...and it's longitunidal to boot!! ok,ok it's actually awd, but the engine and tranny are still up front...i
would love to see a cutaway of how they get the power to the front wheels. jackg
GM unveiling OnStar service that will automatically relay crash data
WASHINGTON (AP) - General Motors Corp. unveiled new vehicle technology Wednesday that will determine the severity of a crash within seconds and automatically call for help.
Crash sensors in the front and rear bumpers and on both sides of the vehicle can tell where the vehicle was hit and the speed and force of impact.
Beginning in some vehicles next year, the information will be sent to an OnStar operator through a handsfree cellular phone connection. The operator can talk to crash victims in the vehicle and conference in 911 dispatchers with all the information they need to quickly send emergency responders.
OnStar is the country's most popular in-vehicle communications system, with more than 2 million subscribers. It is a subsidiary of General Motors and provides service for some GM, Lexus, Acura, Audi, Saab, Subaru, Isuzu and Volkswagen models.
The system already alerts an OnStar operator when an air bag deploys, but the improvements will notify operators about accidents that did not trigger an air bag deployment and send more information about the crash.
OnStar operators can also locate a stolen vehicle, remotely unlock the doors, provide roadside assistance, remote diagnostics, directions and even dinner reservations. OnStar subscriptions cost $199-$499 annually, depending on which services are provided.
DaimlerChrysler Corp. will begin offering a cell phone operated by voice commands this fall from Bluetooth Wireless called UConnect. The system does not include crash notification, but DaimlerChrysler spokeswoman Mary Beth Halprin said it may one day if customers demand it.
``Right now our consumer research shows that our consumers rate that kind of feature as a lower priority related to the cost associated with that sort of feature,'' she said. ``They think it's a neat concept, but if it's too expensive, they don't want it.''
GM won't say how much the company spent on the new technology but OnStar President Chet Huber said subscription fees won't increase.
OnStar currently receives about 500 air bag deployment notifications and 14,000 roadside assistance requests per month. GM expects the new system will bring in another 124 calls per month in its first year, 278 in the second year and 432 in the third year.
The new system will be available beginning next year on about 400,000 vehicles sold in Canada and the United States, including the Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet Trailblazer, GMC Envoy and Envoy XUT, Oldsmobile Bravada and Buick Rainier. The new service will be available across GM's entire line by 2007.
GM officials say eventually the information may be transmitted electronically to 911 centers, first responders and hospitals using secure Internet connections. The system may also one day be able to tell how many people were in the vehicle, whether they were using seat belts and other information that helps emergency responders anticipate injuries before they arrive at the accident scene.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration administrator Jeffrey Runge said the new technology will be especially helpful for rural crashes, where there may not be witnesses and the victims may not immediately be discovered. Runge was an emergency physician before taking over the agency last year.
``I really do believe that (the system's technology) will be there to close a gap that has been there in our ability to save lives,'' he said.
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On the Net:
OnStar system: http://www.onstar.com
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Also, welcome to markcinclt. I hope you enjoy your new CVT. We almost went with the Alpaka Beige, but then my wife happened to see the Pearlescent White and we went with that.
BTW, your username is pretty close to markcincinnati. I hope all of us can keep your postings straight.
I agree the Amulet Red is gorgeous. In case you haven't seen this picture posted by LMGotts on AW, here is a picture of an Amulet Red S6.
http://www.digitalfields.com/s6/amulets6side.JPG
Audi has some pluses though...4.9% financing 4 year vs 3 year full warranty a little roomier and I love the styling both inside and out...
My S80 is nice when it's running right...but I'll bet there have been more days with a message light on than not.....
--An electrical glitch with the driver's window.
--A broken lumbar mechanism in the driver's seat.
Apart from a few various turn signal and brake light replacements...that's it. All was taken care of promptly by the dealer, no charge.
Since I drive pretty aggresively, I've gone through brake pad replacements (again, no charge). From my perspective, the car's been as reliable as any Japanese car I've ever had.
the lower door jams...just so classy looking. i wonder if that shade of red is same that porsche
uses? guards red? it's the one that all the hot rodders use on their creations. jackg
-I assume it is engine oil you are referring to, not another lubricant. How much is leaking? Does it pool up under the car? If so, where?
-Has your dealer located the area where the leak in emanating from? i.e. near the top of the engine, bottom, etc?
-Has the regional Audi service rep been consulted yet?
1. at the first service they claimed the only problem was 2 gaskets rather than 1 on the oil drain plug creating a gap for oil to leak out
2. second service- front engine seal and valve cover gaskets. I guess the front engine seal is a stainless steel piece that they said had a nick out of it which was a defect that would in turn nick the gaskets to cause leaking. (???)
3. The service manager now tells me that the engine oil is leaking out of almost every orifice. Now they claim that I have a defective oil pump; however, my gauges never indicated a pressure problem. They claimed they manually checked the oil pressure with some device and it was too high. If you can't tell I am skeptical as to work that is being done to actually fix the problem rather than just returning my car.
Worse of all, I feel lied to and taken advantage of. I went to the dealership with the intent of ordering an A4; however, the dealer was very ready to give me a great deal on the A6 that he had on his lot for 7 months. I don't see how a car that they had for 7 months, (supposedly getting new vehicle checks every month) which had 122 miles on it never leaked engine oil on their lot (would they have to disclose this??). I guess it's like they say, "if it's too good to be true it probably is".
The service manager at the dealership says he is working directly with Audi to diagnose the problem. He also claims that he is pushing for a new engine. I, on the other hand, am going to let them give it back to me for the third time. When it leaks again my legal rights start to kick in.
I am really venting here but hopefully this will help. Thanks!
Your gages would not tell you if you had too high of oil pressure.
It is conceivable to me that the oil pump runs on its relief valve at higher RPMS. If the relief valve is stuck closed then you will over pressure the oil seals.
It is also possible that lubrication systems generally don't hit their relief valve in normal operation. If that is the case then the high pressure is due to a restriction in the lubrication system somewhere and and replacing the pump won't help. They should see this if they check the pressure after they replace the pump.
Assuming its the pump scenario you still may of leaks due to blown seals that they will have to replace.
My advice is: first, demand a loaner vehicle, equivalent to your car: ideally an A6; an A4 would be acceptable.
Second, talk to the regional Audi rep yourself, not through the dealer.
Third, immediately consult an attorney who is familiar with your state's lemon laws.
Finally, demand to see any work orders relating to your Audi which pre-date your purchase.
Keep us posted on developments.
Best of luck....
I am planning to by an A6 3.0 AWD, triptronic with preferred luxury package in a few weeks. The MSRP is 58,000 CAD (plus tax). When I stepped into the dealership the dealer offered right away 56,000CAD. I think he can go lower (54,000CAD) especially now when the 2003 model is soon out. Any opinion on it?
Another question: Does the Onstar work in Canada? Worth buying this option?
I assume you mean the Audi dealer in Alexandria. I dealt with them when buying my new A6 about 5 months ago. My experience was only OK at best - the salesman was friendly and actually seemed knowledgable about product. However, they did not seem to be very good on pricing. I ulimately ended up buying from Audi in Rockville, MD, where they had a much better inventory of vehicles in stock and gave me a very good price right off the bat. Audi of Alexandria finally came back and said they would match any other local dealer's price, but then they played games on the leasing rates (tried to pad a little extra profit above the AoA subsidized rates.) Since Rockville had the exact car I wanted and they were more upfront about pricing, I bought from them without regret.
Thanks
Depending on where you live front wheel drive is a fine choice -- in my opinion better than rear wheel drive, but if you're only going to go with two driven wheels, you owe yourself a drive in a BMW or that new RWD Caddy.
Quattro performs very well under all road conditions -- neither FWD nor RWD alone (even with electronic assists) beats quattro under all road conditions. Many people think of "four wheel drive" as meaning off road, towing or truck-like. Quattro all wheel drive while sometimes criticized as being in cars that tend to understeer too much (which is true) is a performance boon, a safety boon, a slick surface (hence safety) boon.
Many fine cars are RWD and FWD -- I happen to think that an Audi FWD is a very nice car indeed, in many ways. But I'll bet that 2.7T has spoiled you in ways you don't know. Ditto and double ditto the fact that your 2.7T was in a quattro car -- you're used to a certain HIGH level of performance. At this time the A6 3.0 with CVT, although a very good car in every respect, just isn't a 2.7T quattro. No way, no how.
Wait until the next generation when you can choose from a 5 or a 6 spd Tip, a 6 spd manual and/or a CVT -- with quattro. It isn't likely to be here as soon as you need to replace your current car though.
One biased opinion.
Good luck!
The above comment does not apply to the latest A4 which has the fully independent setup on both the FWD and quattro verisons